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Quote from CyrusOfSky

My take on it is from an artistic perspective, as well as a practical perspective.

Artistically, there is a heavy misconception between modern/simple as just drastically reducing the detail, and creating an aesthetic flow that is only enhanced by the lack of detail. You're not making modern simplistic art by just killing the shading on everything. In fact, simplicity can incorporate the elements of shading. Just look at the game Fez for example. Even a game like proteus, which is practically devoid of shading, still fits the modern/simplistic category simply because it has that rich, contrasting colour palette that facilitates the aesthetic flow and draws in the player. 90% of these simple packs don't utilize these two elements in harmony. Minecraft's default colour palette was selected to fit in with a shaded pixelated environment. The colours are largely desaturated, especially in the more cold, or flat biomes. The shading and texture is what adds the interest to the environment, as it's now more than a largely blandly coloured landscape with little variance. A lot of modern works play with monochromatic colour palettes as well, but they use them effectively to deliver a good experience. If you want an example of what I'm talking about, take a look at Exit Path. It's a free to play flash game. To say that modern design is simply killing the detail in something is a gross misconception. And anyone who uses it to justify their work and refuse input in the name of "modern design" is either following a misconception, or just being pretentious in my opinion.

From a practical standpoint, many people aren't too fond of the shadeless/simple packs simply for the reason that they take little to no effort to make. You just select a colour from the block and bucket fill the entire thing. It's a texture pack that anyone can make, and really says nothing about the creator's own interpretations or ideas. He's only altering Minecraft's designs to have no shading. In the end they're still largely Minecraft's designs, not his. It's more supportive of the community to try and bring in variety. It's perfectly fine to experiment with texture packs and make some projects like these, if it's for learning purposes, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really contribute anything to the community as there's nothing really new that's being introduced. It's like all of the herobrine skins that are being made. I'm pretty sure that's something a lot of people are sick of too. Even just the herobrine concept itself is getting rather old as there are SO many herobrine related items now. Personally I think it's time Minecraft adopted a new urban legend/villain for everyone to go crazy over.

But I'm going on a tangent now. The bottom line is that, yes while it mostly boils down to a personal opinion, there are perfectly sound reasons as to why so many people dislike these sorts of packs being made.

Quote from FailStoner

Yes that is true but see the name of this texture pack is noshades so i cant go back and fill in the shades and so i am going to follow GolldenFalcon's idea

Quote from CyrusOfSky

Golden falcon has the right approach of lightening it up, but that being said, you need to take it a step further. I think you should redesign your colour selection a bit. It's possible to make shadeless packs look appealing, but only if you do them right. And I think part of this process will also involve you tweaking the shapes of the minerals and such to pull it off. Aside from lightening your colours, you should make them more rich. Maybe change some of the mineral colours entirely. Iron right now looks like some form of clay deposit with that darker brown. Looking up images of iron ores, you could select something that has a little more purple hue to it? It could work either way. Gold would maintain it's bright colour. Diamond seems fine how it is. But I think to make them a bit more apparent, you should edit how the ores look. Maybe the diamonds could have a more diamond shape when they're still in ore form. Since you're doing a shadeless pack, realism doesn't necessarily have to be a priority.

Quote from CyrusOfSky

Golden falcon has the right approach of lightening it up, but that being said, you need to take it a step further. I think you should redesign your colour selection a bit. It's possible to make shadeless packs look appealing, but only if you do them right. And I think part of this process will also involve you tweaking the shapes of the minerals and such to pull it off. Aside from lightening your colours, you should make them more rich. Maybe change some of the mineral colours entirely. Iron right now looks like some form of clay deposit with that darker brown. Looking up images of iron ores, you could select something that has a little more purple hue to it? It could work either way. Gold would maintain it's bright colour. Diamond seems fine how it is. But I think to make them a bit more apparent, you should edit how the ores look. Maybe the diamonds could have a more diamond shape when they're still in ore form. Since you're doing a shadeless pack, realism doesn't necessarily have to be a priority.