This is pushing me to remove my content from this site in protest. The only reason I'm keeping it here is because of the comments I get from the community.
It's an illogical rule. There are far more reasonable alternatives. Fortunately, since everyone seems to realise this, it hopefully won't last too long.
I suggest this thread set up a poll that can act as a petition. Those in favour of the new rules, and those against. That way we can have something concrete to show to the admins.
I second this. I also am considering removing my thread. 80% of my downloads come from other sites anyway.
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Okay guys, I think the best thing we can do now is to bombard them with a slew of protests AND with legal documentation, such as the ruling in copyright infringement cases and books on copyright law.
I don't really understand what this is about, I'm not into all that legal stuff, but, I can see that this is obviously just a way for mods to lighten their load, which is totally silly, they applied for the job, they should follow what they're supposed to do and understand what they're getting into beforehand.
I can also see that the rules they're applying aren't welcome in the community, by tone and volume of protest. It's also going to seriously kill this forum as people like me (who don't understand all these legal loop-holes and rules), or people who just can't be bothered with the effort, will move away, seriously killing one of the main communities for texture packs on the internet.
I say to texture pack makers, set-up a set of rules you want to be instated and petition for the mods to follow them, you're the people who are going to have ot live with them, not the mods, so they should be set-up by you not them.
They're trying to make it easier for mods when they should instead just get more moderators -.-
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Good idea. Just keep this thread bumped so more people see it and vote.
Rodger that. If it starts lagging I'll bump it like a champ.
Also, to anyone who has some legal knowledge: I say we get together and draft a new set of rules to present after we get a large number of people voting 'yes' to the change.
This act just shows how little the mods try around here, they put in this act in order to make the pack artists do all the work while they sit back in front of their fireplaces, stroking their puffy white cats and smoking pipes.
In all seriousness, it's a bad idea. If someone steals your pack and throws a license on it before you do, it's THEIR pack and your thread would get deleted.
This is silly!
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Rodger that. If it starts lagging I'll bump it like a champ.
Also, to anyone who has some legal knowledge: I say we get together and draft a new set of rules to present after we get a large number of people voting 'yes' to the change.
I second this as well. I am currently reading through the Berne Convention and World Intellectual Property Organization Copyright Treaty stuff and I will soon start on the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. As far as I can tell so far the texture packs or mods fall under copyright protection as soon as they are posted. Thus all the benefits of the copyright laws apply.
I guess I have no problem being required to post the copyright info. Though it is a bit irritating. My problem is that now I have to report if someone steals my pack. What if I go on vacation? What is the point in having moderators now? We might as code something to take their place.
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"Look, I don't care if your 8 or 20. If you can't take criticism or opinions, then get off the internet." -Stronghold257
This just makes it seem like the admins are trying to make their workload easier and texture pack artist's workload heavier. Can't say I'm in agreement, and I do hope the staff does re-establish fairer rules.
EDIT: Wow, how long has that poll been up? Looks like to me at least 11 people have voted in agreement to changing the rules in less than 10 minutes.
I second this as well. I am currently reading through the Berne Convention and World Intellectual Property Organization Copyright Treaty stuff and I will soon start on the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. As far as I can tell so far the texture packs or mods fall under copyright protection as soon as they are posted. Thus all the benefits of the copyright laws apply.
I guess I have no problem being required to post the copyright info. Though it is a bit irritating. My problem is that now I have to report if someone steals my pack. What if I go on vacation? What is the point in having moderators now? We might as code something to take their place.
Lets replace them with robots programmed by 5 year olds
The robots would do a better job of moderating.
I'm not sure I understand though. Could someone explain everything to me again xD?
If you don't copright your work instantly someone can steal it, stick a copyright on it, and take it from you forever.
If someone steals your work, it's your responsibility to report them to a moderator [who will never ever read the message because they're too busy smoking pot]
I think the rules would be better if they were more like this:
Any original work placed on the site is automatically the property of the creator.
Any work found to be taken from another's without permission should be reported, along with a link to the original thread and, if possible, a list of the textures/pieces that have been copied/modified.
Permission should be clearly shown on the first post of a derivative work if it has been given. This should show a screenshot of a private message or similar proof that the original creator has given permission.
If permission is not clearly visible on this first post, it will be assumed to have not been given, and the thread will be locked pending proof of permission.
This is pretty much the same as it was before, except more clearly worded.
I second this. I also am considering removing my thread. 80% of my downloads come from other sites anyway.
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Retired StaffMost of my downloads come from here, and I'm still considering removing my mod and texture pack.
instead of these... laws
http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/hr2281.pdf
http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/berne/trtdocs_wo001.html#P85_10661
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works
All I know is this shouldn't affect us.
EDIT: Not shouldn't like it probably won't
shouldn't like I wish it didn't
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Curse PremiumThey're trying to make it easier for mods when they should instead just get more moderators -.-
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Retired StaffRodger that. If it starts lagging I'll bump it like a champ.
Also, to anyone who has some legal knowledge: I say we get together and draft a new set of rules to present after we get a large number of people voting 'yes' to the change.
they better do some thinking. Its ridiculous. feathers and I could run this place better.
In all seriousness, it's a bad idea. If someone steals your pack and throws a license on it before you do, it's THEIR pack and your thread would get deleted.
This is silly!
Quote of the Day: "If you think you're gonna snap, or be rude, here's an idea: Don't post." - Theevilpplz
I second this as well. I am currently reading through the Berne Convention and World Intellectual Property Organization Copyright Treaty stuff and I will soon start on the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. As far as I can tell so far the texture packs or mods fall under copyright protection as soon as they are posted. Thus all the benefits of the copyright laws apply.
I guess I have no problem being required to post the copyright info. Though it is a bit irritating. My problem is that now I have to report if someone steals my pack. What if I go on vacation? What is the point in having moderators now? We might as code something to take their place.
EDIT: Wow, how long has that poll been up? Looks like to me at least 11 people have voted in agreement to changing the rules in less than 10 minutes.
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Curse PremiumIf you don't copright your work instantly someone can steal it, stick a copyright on it, and take it from you forever.
If someone steals your work, it's your responsibility to report them to a moderator [who will never ever read the message because they're too busy smoking pot]
This is pretty much the same as it was before, except more clearly worded.