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Quote from necramar »

I have a suggestion for lightstone ore, assuming you are still looking for ideas. Since it emits light, why not make it a fill-in for a lantern, until we get the "real" lanterns that Notch has promised? I've been playing around in Photoshop to create something as a placeholder until you come out with an assuredly better texture, and here's what I've come up with:

Standard 32x32 size:


Enlarged 128x128 (upscaled from 32x32 so it's easier to see):


Close up of in-game block:


Example "street lamps":


I'd have liked to make it a little less cube-shaped (more like http://imgur.com/vrWUK.jpg), but I figured that since it's a naturally occurring block, it would look pretty weird in big "clumps" if I did otherwise. Also, since there is only one face to work with, the options were pretty limited.

Anyway, just a thought. I look forward to seeing what you come up with!!

Edit: Oh, I should add that I used your glass texture as a base for this (though it's pretty obvious, I guess).

You've done an amazing job with these. Fantastic idea, but I still want to make the glow stones something that looks sort of 'natural' down under ground, and can also be built with above. I really wish the glow stone could be properly crafted into something else (and isn't there talk that they will be used in the ingrediants for constructing Notch's new lantern?).

This is such a good idea though, that when I've time (and if Notch hasn't introduced the lantern) I'll knock up a lantern texture with the glow stone. You never know, my glow stone might still work as a lantern.

I've been very bad, in that I got side-tracked experimenting with sun and moon textures in my hunt for glowstone ideas.
Here's my pumpkin lanterns in use as per necramar's idea! Notice my first go at a moon reflecting the light from a dying sun. That's my idea for the sun, but my first attempts here weren't too successful (though I've gained some useful info from it):

Quote from Captain Haemogoblin »

in the polluted dock water experiment picture you've got what looks like a zipper effect on the gate, how did you achieve this?

Awesome pack btw, I can't use anything else i've become so used to it lol

I took this pic of the sun and dock-gate then I could answer your question. I built the gate this way to give the illusion of a system where mechanisms in the towers on either side could retract the gates to allow ships in and out, but left them partly open so I can sail in and out in my little boat. I designed it so that the gates appear to interlock for added strength in times of seige. This was built early on in my texture attempts and greatly influenced how the 'wood' texture turned out. :smile.gif:

Again thanks for the compliments everyone and apologies for the delay on the Nether blocks. I easily get sidetracked with other minecraft things, work and family, but I'm, under no circumstances, losing interest in continually adding to this theme. I'm enjoying it too much!

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Could you use my ideas? Broken gears for bloodstone, lightstone is uranium, and soulmud would be industrial waste? Maybe Ghast fireballs could be radioactive steam?

Well I like the idea for the industrial waste for the soulsand/mud, but I've already embarked down the line of a Jules Verne's 'Journey to the Centre of the Earth' and 'The Time machine', by H G Wells, as they fit the pre-nuclear era of Steampunk much better. I don't really like the idea of radioactive luminescence, I'm trying more for a bio-luminescence, something that my glowing blue mushrooms would fit better in and would tie in with my memories of the old movies associated with the above stories. The pigmen would probably be like 'morlocks' (Time Machine) or primitive humans and anything else Notch comes up with will have to fit somehow in this world view. The Ghasts will either be Morlocks in some kind of flying vehicle, or a H P Lovecraftian Cthuhlu-like tentacled creature, not decided which yet, because I've not started work on them.

I certainly think your ideas are great, don't get me wrong, but just ahead of this theme's technology. They would fit better with something like the theme that Doku was working on before he moved on to other things - his 'End of Days' idea. I'm also still trying for Nether blocks that can be used as useful building materials in the 'Upper' world. I would love to have made the bloody cobblestone into rusty, riveted metal panels, as they would have been so ideal for use in the world above, given the theme. If I can't think of something better, then I would go with that. I've also been considering the textures associated with molten meteorites - metallic, pitted and rock-like.

There's a lot to consider...this is why I'm not rushing 'em out the door, just for the sake of being first with the textures.

I'm definately not interested in making the Nether any more 'hell' like than it already is. Nothing against hell or anything. Sounds like a perfectly nice place, but.......

Quote from theicychameleon »

I'm liking those lanterns of years :smile.gif: I think I might give those other (lightstone) ones a go though, they've really caught my eye.

Just a thought: when you go underwater with your texturepack enabled the colour flips back to the original tropical blue style thing. Is there any way to change that or is it hardcoded into the program?

Hardcoded, as far as I'm aware. That's the reason I didn't go over-board (groan) on the green. It would be nice to have a soupy green down beneath the waves, but then again it would quickly get annoying for those who like to construct under water. It would be nice if some kind modder could work out what needed changing for this. Assuming it met with Notch's approval.

Quote from Telgar »

Glimmar i know your interested in paintings from your posts. Can you steampunk mah bear? =)

Ha ha! I know that bear painting. :biggrin.gif: I was looking at your work yesterday and you've done an awesome job! Especially that bear. I doubt I'll be achieving anything quite so 3-dimensional as that. You did a great job on the illusion of depth, considering how 2d the pics are.

I'm afraid I'll be concentrating on mechanical devices, etc. when I do get round to those pesky paintings. It's something I've been looking forward to doing and I've got a lot lined up for a very few slots.

Why don't you have a go at Steampunkifying it and offer it up here for others to use? It would look great! I'm just not sure what you'd do though. Could be interesting. :biggrin.gif:

Thanks, Telgar

Quote from Tiger4Ruler »

@theicychameleon & Glimmar:

Quote from theicychameleon »

Just a thought: when you go underwater with your texturepack enabled the colour flips back to the original tropical blue style thing. Is there any way to change that or is it hardcoded into the program?

Quote from Glimmar »

Hardcoded, as far as I'm aware. That's the reason I didn't go over-board (groan) on the green. It would be nice to have a soupy green down beneath the waves, but then again it would quickly get annoying for those who like to construct under water. It would be nice if some kind modder could work out what needed changing for this. Assuming it met with Notch's approval.

*sigh* lol Glimmar I think you are mistaken on that part :wink.gif: look inside the 'misc'-folder there we have 'water.png' which can be edited for underwater

Normal view of my bay (no pea soup yet...):


and we dive underwater with green overlay at 56% visability in 'water.png':


slight mixed effect of blue overwater and green underwater

Glimmar can you be so kind and put my art file in the art folder of your uploaded ZIP for the time being until ya replace with yours? or I throw a package together..?

btw. this is real real in early stages but since Notch really with the last update did make this super modder friendly, he even included a folder 'font' with a 'default.png' but its itsy-titsy pixelfont with some extra characters, but there 'might be' a possibility to alter the text ingame :wink.gif:

And out of curiosity has somebody encountered 'rain' and 'snow' from the enviroment folder yet as it was always sunny sunshine during day even when I entered a snow-biome? Can someboy enlighten me there? If there was enviroment the 'rain' may be possible to modify

@Telgar: Great work with the 3d effect bear and altering the paintings :wink.gif:

Haha! Shows how much I know [slinks away into the corner for a sulk! :biggrin.gif:]. That's great news though! Have you always known this or have you just been experimenting? Well, that's something else to be added to the list. Lol. Got to get this water right for diving in now, especially with the diving helm on!

As a thank you, I'll make up a separate Glimmar's Steampunk pack with your paintings in! I've always been a little cautious in forcing people to accept my choice of paintings, because it might not be what they prefer, especially if they have their own favourite set of paintings. Notch's new texture pack system although good, kind of forces people not to learn to pick and choose how they want their worlds. That's the price for making it easy for all to try out different packs, but as we've seen it's sort of going to put a lot of people off, who've never tried the HD packs, when they don't work properly.

Thanks again for the info. I can't keep up with all the little insights!!

Quote from Garacesh »

For the love of any diety you may so wish

Please tell us we're going to see a custom items.png, armour, etc? :biggrin.gif::D:D

Ha ha! pray very hard to which ever diety you may so wish, to give me more time and energy and it may be done! :biggrin.gif:

I'm smegging having difficulty doing something original for the Nether blocks and getting side tracked building a sun and moon. Also Tiger4Ruler's set me off doing an underwater texture now...head exploding time I think!! I know very well now why Notch created the creeper! :biggrin.gif:

I need sleep...zzzzzz

Quote from Tiger4Ruler »

Have you always known this or have you just been experimenting?

Recall when you said you' d wished dead rats in your water at that point I edited this file instead of the terrain.png, but as I was not sure I redid the editing right now, nah I am also like you discovering stuff and possibilities...and often forget about them haha ^^ thnx mate.

I have looked at some victorian houses and may try if I find some time to do one, also far from justified with the curtains I did, but another research has exactly the curtains I like but in a damn angle so either I do some photo editing or have to try to pixel something together.. inspiration is all in phases so to all thread readers:

We still need your ideas, some we might incorporate and some you might do yourself, don' t be afraid to be creative! and thnx for all the nice screens

victorian star wars:

Ha ha! Well keep those ideas and discoveries rolling, but you might have to keep reminding me what I've forgotten to do. Real life impinges too often for me to make much headway at the moment!

I'm amazed how far Minecraft has come in just the time I've been playing, in terms of textures, mods and updates. The possibilities just get a bit mind-boggling at times. It's like going round a big museum, there's too much to see and take in at once!

Time for bed. I'm waffling!! :biggrin.gif:

ps.Cool pics by the way, especially the one of Chewbacca?

Just a quicky before I crash out. Here's where I think I'm taking the Netherstone...rusty steel panels with rivets. Not certain, but in terms of finally getting an easily sourced metal panelled block to build in a Minecraft Steampunk world opens up a lot of creative possibilities. Now Submarines and steel hulled battleships become a possibility, not to mention steel bridges and underwater bases.

Anyway, this is an early version which needs a little more work yet...

...and having walked round the Nether world for most of the evening and thinking how it all looked like some vast steel mill, I'm warming even more to necramar's idea of lanternesque blocks for the glow stones and user's idea about industrial waste for slowstone - along the lines of sludge or something, but how to get that to tile effectivelly...mmm? My only problem with 'industrial waste' is what to do with it in my world as a building material? I do like each block to have multiple functions.

Any thoughts folks?

Night all.

@ templar15: I'll look into that. I'm not overly familiar with Pokemon. :smile.gif:

@ GSKashmir: I'm sorry this pack isn't working for you. I know it works for me and many others, but I know from PM's that some with Macs are experience problems with the HD textures and xau's patcher. I'm no expert, so all I can advise is to start with a clean fresh install of Minecraft and follow my instructions on page 1 as closely as possible. It's important to apply the MC Patcher after you've installed my texture pack in Minecraft's new textures folder. Don't unpack the .zip file when you put it in the textures folder, it's supposed to stay as a zip file. Once the zip file is in the right place exit the game and run xau's MC patcher. Don't forget to tick the box on the 3rd line and select my texture pack by browsing to it.

I've always used 7zip and found it to be very easy and reliable to use. Definately worth downloading, though only being a Windows user I don't know if theres a version for Macs.

Does this happen for all HD textures, or just mine?

I hope you get it to work...most of these problems get solved by working through the steps slowly. I can't really be more specific than that, because I don't know what you have tried! :sad.gif:

@ Seiseki and Metadigital Many thanks. I appreciate that. I'm hoping the paintings are going to be the fun part for me, as I love my little gadgety set pieces and they could make a big difference to what folks could build. I like the idea of a poster or two - one fresh and the other wornout and tattered.

I would love for a modder to make it possible to attach things to the flying boat in the flying boat mod. That for me would be the holy grail. I'm not after speed of flight or anything. A nice sedate glide through the air would be ok by me. I can't see anyone being able to make large airships, boats or submarines that actually work in Minecraft, but we can dream, and no-one would be happier to be proved wrong than I. I'd eat my top hat if some genius modder pulled it off. I don't think anyone has made a submarine version of the boat, that would be interesting, but there is a diving helmet mod using the pumpkin. I asked on the forums if someone could do it and the very next day someone did!

I know what you mean about the Nether block sound and I had for some time wanted to make the Nether world more along the lines of a 'Journey to the centre of the Earth' kind of experience (with bio-luminescent glow stones and tendril-like slow stones). It goes against the grain to make any block into something that doesn't feel right, but the temptation to have something that finally gives us steel plates in vast quantity is great. I'm hoping that it might be possible to change the sound for this theme, but I can live with it for now. Of course if Notch introduces a relatively cheap to produce iron plate, it changes everything. I really am torn between two worlds here! :sad.gif:

I don't have a problem with the fact that the Nether block burns - one would expect to use iron to contain fire in an industrial style of world as seen in the pic. I love the idea of weird and wonderful places to explore, but if I can't make the best use of the resources down there for building above, I'd never visit the place and I think that would be a bit of a waste. For any other theme I could see different uses for the Nether, but we're not going to get another opportunity for vast quantities of iron, for some time, without resorting to using one of the editing programmes, which I don't like using, unless it's necessary for me to display a particular block.

Trust me though, before I walked around the Nether world steel mill, I was sceptical about turning the Netherstone into iron plate, but the great possibilites for it's use above ground is just astronomical. Also it gives me a very good reason for making Steampunk monster mobs now! :biggrin.gif: Before, the idea of mechanical monster swarming the countryside, even in my particular theme, just seemed a bit out of place, but now one can imagine these monstrosities being sent up from the Nether on a mission to overthrow the world above.

I will be making one of the paintings into a different sort of metal plate, but paintings can't be placed flat on the floor yet, can they? The thought of trying to cover vast areas in steel/iron paintings would be really tedious. Now, again if some clever modder could produce another block type that was ironplate, it would be a different story, though this runs the risk of incompatibility with other mods and Notch's updates, etc. I have to try and keep it simple, up to a point.

I hope you can see what a quandry it is for me though. I may even be forced to do two styles of Nether blocks!



As regards the pumpkins. As they are the only functional helmet we have in the game that we can look through, it's the best we've got for a diving/space helm. When we can grow them I can see it being a bit odd, but with a bit of imagination, instead of growing them on the ground, design the growing surface like a factory conveyor system and my helms would look like they were in the process of being manufactured rather than grown. Though, if Notch builds a nutritional value into them it might seem a bit weird.

Hope I can do the theme justice on the GUI side of things. Again the style being so distinctive means there is great scope for coggy, steamy kind of decoration.

Many thanks for your imput, Seiseki/Metadigital. Always appreciate being able to bounce ideas off others. I tend to go round in circles a lot though! :biggrin.gif:

Sorry for the vast amounts of text folks! :sad.gif:

Quote from Metadigital »

Honestly, Glimmar, I think Minecraft naturally leads itself to a steampunk feel. The only reason it's not explicit right now is because the basic textures are more "universal" rather than "moody". The iron riveted texture looks fantastic, it really does. I also agree that it's definitely something that is needed for that steampunk "feel".

Here's my concern:
- Having the steel plates in the Nether encourages players to go into the Nether if they want to build almost anything mechanical. Though this introduces the ability to built steel structures where they would otherwise not exist, it also means that players will spend a lot of time in an area that is strange for a steampunk theme.
- The blocks themselves are strange, as they burn forever, sound like gravel, and break almost instantly with a pick. The "feel" of the material will contrast sharply with its appearance.
- Once a better block is introduced to fill this function, structures already made of these steel blocks won't make much sense. Changing it over into another more sensible block will mean that people who use this texture will have to reconstruct whatever they made with it into the new material. Keeping the material true to its original intent might also save you work down the line if better materials appear for that purpose.

I understand that there's no guarantee that a better block will come along, though I hope there will be. I know Notch is against adding too many blocks, but really, new building materials are really high in demand right now. It's a tough decision, and honestly, either way I don't expect to spend too much time in the Nether. As you can infer from my last post, I think it was sort of a bad idea for Minecraft. Maybe that's the biggest reason I don't want to see such a versatile block there. I'm biased against it.

Thanks Metaldigital,

You have made very valid arguement against the use of iron plates in the Nether and I do understand the concerns about making such a useful material out of something that may change in the future...that worries me a lot actually, because I'd hate to break people's epic builds, but I just can't see Notch introducing metal plates and girders (the metal equivalent of wood and sticks, that would be so very useful to this theme, indeed any theme really), any time soon. You watch him prove me wrong.

Like you I'd rather we could get these iron materials in a less fantastical way and manufacture them more naturally, but I just don't think he'll do it soon and I wouldn't want them introduced by a modder if that slot was going to be filled by Notch in an official capacity later. So long as Notch didn't discontinue the Nether blocks, any new metal block he introduced could be textured as different material for this theme, like brass or a shinier steel, etc.

Like you, I agree the feel and sound of the Netherstone block doesn't feel like it should and that for me is one of the beauties of Minecraft, but I just so badly want to have large supplies of metal plating in my world! :sad.gif: I'm prepared to live with a less than ideal feel/sound to have a greater variety of materials to craft with and to be able to stand back and look at what i've built from a distance with satisfaction. Incidentally a lot of the painting textures I want to work on will be made to function with the iron plating to introduce an even greater range of mechanical possibilities.

Unlike you I kind of like the idea of the Nether and it's possibilities, but it seems a little empty at the moment for such a vast region, though it doesn't stop us introducing materials from outside I suppose. Didn't like the idea of hell too much (not from any religious point of view) as that seemed a bit too depressing to me and it's sad that the 'hell' concept is always going to stick now for most people.

I hope my decisions won't end in tears for everyone's builds and if I eventually give people the choice, by having two versions of the Nether blocks to use, I hope that would make you happier with my decision. I'm still undecided with this Slowstone though! I think it has power over me!!