Skidoodle, the OP of this thread and original author of Amidst is otherwise occupied with earning a real living and can't really afford the time to keep up with this thread.
Also, Amidst really only works with seeds for PC/Mac based machines so starting the thread in the PCMC Seeds forum seems logical.
What do you think? Is this idea reasonable?
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There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
I have a http://www.gameband.com/, which means I am moving the Minecraft program off all my computers.
I would like to run AMIDST off the gameband, but because its set to look for the default minecraft directory on my computers, it crashes.
would this be an easy change to make to AMIDST, or am I SOL?
Well, AMIDST is open source so hopefully someone could figure out how to modify it to add gameband compatibility, I hope. Though I don't yet fully understand how gameband works.
EDIT: Ok, I've checked out the website and FAQ and understand a little more about it. Essentially it just has Minecraft installed on a fancy USB stick and uses a custom launcher to launch it on whatever computer you plug it into. And even though it can back-up your world to its cloud service the actual World Save folder is on the USB stick and in the normal directory tree. This could easily be done without gameband on a regular USB stick, at least when connected to a Windows computer and using a .bat script.
* I don't think anything special needs to be done code-wise to make AMIDST work with gameband since the minecraft folder on the band uses the same directory structure. I believe that AMIDST has, for a couple or so versions now, had an option built in that allows accessing Minecraft in alternate locations/installs. In fact; I believe it was due to my request a while back since I keep all my MC versions in separate parallel install folders using that .bat trick I mentioned above. Heck, you could even run AMIDST itself directly from your Gameband USB stick!
So if you wanted to use it directly on your world save on your gameband you should be fine, as to accessing your cloud back-up directly from AMIDST, I doubt it without code-adjustment.
EDIT 2: Regarding the Gameband: I have thought about running Minecraft off of a USB stick before, once I learned the .bat trick, but have always decided against it due to the way Minecraft constantly HAMMERS the world save files with updates. I would fully expect a Minecraft Install to burn out a USB stick far faster than anything else. At the least I would NEVER put any data of value onto the same stick and would have to constantly backup my world save folder to somewhere else. It looks like Gameband thought of that and wisely setup that cloud save service for the world to constantly be backed up to. It's also great for "planned obsolescence" of the stick itself heh heh. Though hopefully since it is a USB 3 stick it will hold up better under the stress.
* Something that I think would provide far better speed for Minecraft and avoid the HD hammering worries would be to run Minecraft on a RAM Drive then have it always back-up to HD/USB or whatever. That would be AWESOME as well as make USB2 performance bottlenecks essentially meaningless.
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-- Robinton's Mods: [ Mirror ] for some of his Mods incl Cubic Chunks Mod, due to DropBox broken links.
I would like to point out that the iOS 'version' of this wonderful app is a total rip-off. I paid 2 bucks for it and I believe it is a scam. It never showed a map of any seed I tried to use. I highly recommend you should take it off the front page.
Ya everything is in the same place in the Minecraft folder, but getting the program to see the folder on the USB drive vs the folder on my macbook pro that is nonexistent is my problem. The version I have (newest I think) is crashing upon startup, and if it would ask where the directory is vs crashing that would really help.
Thanks for the info because when I use it on a PC, if I ever do i have an idea how to make it work.
While I don't work for 57 Digital, I feel like they have been very approachable when addressing the complaints I have had about their iOS applications.
This might be a rhetorical question, but have you addressed your problems with them?
Ya everything is in the same place in the Minecraft folder, but getting the program to see the folder on the USB drive vs the folder on my macbook pro that is nonexistent is my problem. The version I have (newest I think) is crashing upon startup, and if it would ask where the directory is vs crashing that would really help.
Thanks for the info because when I use it on a PC, if I ever do i have an idea how to make it work.
The newest version that I'm aware of is 3.7 and it's only linked to on the Github I think. 3.6 will not work with the newest versions of minecraft.
Regarding ways to make AMIDST work on alternate Minecraft install locations: I've found an old post from over a year ago where PetSquirrel describes another method of doing it, sorry Windows only again:
Would someone PLEASE PM me with instructions (or a link to instructions) on what I need and how to compile one of the Github Amidst projects to a .jar file?
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There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
I unzipped the archive I got from the github page. Then I made a new workspace in Eclipse. I did File | Import | Existing Project to import Amidst into my new workspace. Then I opened the file src/amidst/amidst.java, and hit Run | Run.
I have not yet succeeded in building a standalone jar.
The version I have (newest I think) is crashing upon startup, and if it would ask where the directory is vs crashing that would really help.
Thanks for the info because when I use it on a PC, if I ever do i have an idea how to make it work.
I have some bad news. Other than the PC solution (Starting AMIDST with a .bat file that sets it to look in an alternate path of your choosing) my testing makes it look like the versions of AMIDST that work with mc 1.6.4 and above (with new launcher and directory structure) no longer pop up with the dialog allowing you to manually select a minecraft.jar from a completely different path. Some versions before that DID do that, AMIDST 2.1 for sure as I just now did it with it but it's highest compatibility is with mc1.5.2.
This is rather bad, but an example of something that really should be easily fixable in the code, I hope. I would like to think that an option for an alternate Install location could be added again in case of it not finding the default install (instead of erroring out), and also added to the Profile selection Dialog so that even if you do have something in the Default location you still would have an easy option for moving it's focus elsewhere as well. It would seem a natural dialog to add that to.
For now though it looks like I will be using the following Method to use the newer AMIDST versions with my Alternately located Minecraft Installs on my Windows PC. I know that you, BEM73, primarily use a Mac so I apologize that I don't know of an immediate solution for use with that but hopefully this will at least allow you use of AMIDST with your Gameband whenever you have access to a Windows PC.
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- Method to use the mc1.6.4+ AMIDST versions with Alternately located Minecraft Installs on a Windows PC -
* I have made and used the following .bat script on my Windows system today with AMIDST 3.7 and do verify that it worked perfectly for me.
1: You will want to enable the 3 letter file extensions (things like .txt and .bat etc) on your PC if they are turned off.
2: Create a new Text file ( .txt ) with NotePad, WordPad or whatever then open it, you can customize the filename later if wished.
3: Copy and Paste the following two lines of script into the text file:
set APPDATA=C:\Minecraft\Minecraft_1.8.0
C:\Minecraft\__Tools\AMIDST\AMIDST-3.7.exe
4: Replace the Red colored Path with the path to the folder that YOUR desired ".minecraft" folder is inside of. Do NOT add quote marks to the script above.
5. Replace the Blue colored Path with the complete path to the AMIDST.exe file you wish to run. You can keep the AMIDST.exe file anywhere and name it anything.
6. Save the file and close it. Now you rename the file extension; Start the normal process of renaming the file then select the ".txt" part instead of the first part of the name. Replace the ".txt" with ".bat" then finish/Enter. It will ask you if you are sure, click Yes.
7. You are done! You could run this file now and it should work as desired. However you will likely wish to customize the .bat script filename to make it clear what it is doing. Some suggestions are listed below along with some other considerations.
Script Naming:
Someone using a Gameband might wish to name the Script something like: "AMIDST-3.7_for_Gameband.bat".
Someone using a USB Stick might wish to name the Script something like: "AMIDST-3.7_for_Stick-01.bat".
Someone with a separate install of Minecraft on their computer set to only ever play mc1.8.0 vanilla: "AMIDST-3.7_for_mc180v.bat".
Someone with a separate install of Minecraft on their computer set to only ever play a modded mc1.8.0: "AMIDST-3.7_for_mc180m.bat".
** You can use the exact same copy of AMIDST for as many separate installs of Minecraft as you wish. Just create a separate .bat file for each target Minecraft folder and use the same path for AMIDST in each one but a custom path for each of the Minecrafts, and of course appropriately name each .bat file so you know what each one is for.
*** When doing this with a USB stick or Gameband the Drive Letter used for it may change depending on the computer you stick it into. If this happens you may unfortunately have to go back into your .bat file and change the drive letter of the paths to anything on that stick to whatever Drive letter you now need. So instead of something like "E:" you might need to change it to something like "G:".
**** To open and edit a .bat file you first run a text editor like NotePad or WordPad then use its menu to select and open the desired .bat file. Then save it like normal when finished editing it.
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* The same sort of Method can also be used for the actual Install and Running of Minecraft itself from any location on a Windows PC that you choose, as many copies as you want. The specific Instructions for that are { HERE }.
WARNING about AMIDST 3.7: (This has nothing to do with the method I described in the spoiler):
v3.7 is erroring out for me, even when used normally with a default location and no .bat file, whenever I select a world created with mc180. It works just fine though when being given the same seed manually as used for that world folder. - I just wanted to point out that this is not a bug caused by using the .bat method, it happens without it in default as well.
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- The Cubic Chunks Mod is back! Be a part of it's rebirth and Development.
-- Robinton's Mods: [ Mirror ] for some of his Mods incl Cubic Chunks Mod, due to DropBox broken links.
Not sure what Multi MC is, but I guess it's a launcher of some kind? Not sure why that would make a difference, AMIDST is a stand alone mapping program, not a mod of any kind.
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To tell them how to live is to prevent them living.
Not sure what Multi MC is, but I guess it's a launcher of some kind? Not sure why that would make a difference, AMIDST is a stand alone mapping program, not a mod of any kind.
My original answer still stands, no matter what you use to launch the game, AMIDST just goes by what version you're running, and generates the biome map from there. As long as you pick the same game version you are running, it will use that to generate the map. Modded versions do not work though, only vanilla biomes.
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To tell them how to live is to prevent them living.
Just found the thread, not going to read all 238 pages, sorry. Does anyone know if it works for Pocket Edition seeds? Or if there is a previewer for Pocket Edition?
Thanks. Doesn't appear to be available anymore in Android (their advert page at the end says it should be in Android). Only their Seed Maps app, which apparently is PC version only (capped at version 1.7.4). I'm testing my Arkel seed to see if it's at all similar. Appreciate the help.
Their site only links to iTunes, so possibly only available on Macs at this time.
I'm seriously considering starting a new thread focused on Amidst in the PCMC Seeds forum (http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/seeds) that I can keep up to date as the OP.
Skidoodle, the OP of this thread and original author of Amidst is otherwise occupied with earning a real living and can't really afford the time to keep up with this thread.
Also, Amidst really only works with seeds for PC/Mac based machines so starting the thread in the PCMC Seeds forum seems logical.
What do you think? Is this idea reasonable?
There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
The latest release of Amidst, version 4.6 can be found here:
https://github.com/toolbox4minecraft/amidst/releases
You should probably also read this:
https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding-java-edition/minecraft-tools/2970854-amidst-map-explorer-for-minecraft-1-14
You can find me on the Minecraft Forums Discord server.
https://discord.gg/wGrQNKX
I have a http://www.gameband.com/, which means I am moving the Minecraft program off all my computers.
I would like to run AMIDST off the gameband, but because its set to look for the default minecraft directory on my computers, it crashes.
would this be an easy change to make to AMIDST, or am I SOL?
Well, AMIDST is open source so hopefully someone could figure out how to modify it to add gameband compatibility, I hope. Though I don't yet fully understand how gameband works.
EDIT: Ok, I've checked out the website and FAQ and understand a little more about it. Essentially it just has Minecraft installed on a fancy USB stick and uses a custom launcher to launch it on whatever computer you plug it into. And even though it can back-up your world to its cloud service the actual World Save folder is on the USB stick and in the normal directory tree. This could easily be done without gameband on a regular USB stick, at least when connected to a Windows computer and using a .bat script.
* I don't think anything special needs to be done code-wise to make AMIDST work with gameband since the minecraft folder on the band uses the same directory structure. I believe that AMIDST has, for a couple or so versions now, had an option built in that allows accessing Minecraft in alternate locations/installs. In fact; I believe it was due to my request a while back since I keep all my MC versions in separate parallel install folders using that .bat trick I mentioned above. Heck, you could even run AMIDST itself directly from your Gameband USB stick!
So if you wanted to use it directly on your world save on your gameband you should be fine, as to accessing your cloud back-up directly from AMIDST, I doubt it without code-adjustment.
EDIT 2: Regarding the Gameband: I have thought about running Minecraft off of a USB stick before, once I learned the .bat trick, but have always decided against it due to the way Minecraft constantly HAMMERS the world save files with updates. I would fully expect a Minecraft Install to burn out a USB stick far faster than anything else. At the least I would NEVER put any data of value onto the same stick and would have to constantly backup my world save folder to somewhere else. It looks like Gameband thought of that and wisely setup that cloud save service for the world to constantly be backed up to. It's also great for "planned obsolescence" of the stick itself heh heh.
* Something that I think would provide far better speed for Minecraft and avoid the HD hammering worries would be to run Minecraft on a RAM Drive then have it always back-up to HD/USB or whatever. That would be AWESOME as well as make USB2 performance bottlenecks essentially meaningless.
- The Cubic Chunks Mod is back! Be a part of it's rebirth and Development.
-- Robinton's Mods: [ Mirror ] for some of his Mods incl Cubic Chunks Mod, due to DropBox broken links.
- Dungeon Generator for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
- QuickSAVE-QuickLOAD for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
Ya everything is in the same place in the Minecraft folder, but getting the program to see the folder on the USB drive vs the folder on my macbook pro that is nonexistent is my problem. The version I have (newest I think) is crashing upon startup, and if it would ask where the directory is vs crashing that would really help.
Thanks for the info because when I use it on a PC, if I ever do i have an idea how to make it work.
This might be a rhetorical question, but have you addressed your problems with them?
You can try to reach them several ways:
http://support.57digital.co.uk
https://www.facebook.com/57Digital
https://twitter.com/57digital
The newest version that I'm aware of is 3.7 and it's only linked to on the Github I think. 3.6 will not work with the newest versions of minecraft.
Newest Versions of AMIDST on GitHub
Good luck!
- The Cubic Chunks Mod is back! Be a part of it's rebirth and Development.
-- Robinton's Mods: [ Mirror ] for some of his Mods incl Cubic Chunks Mod, due to DropBox broken links.
- Dungeon Generator for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
- QuickSAVE-QuickLOAD for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
I edited it slightly for context clarity. Hopefully this is helpful for someone.
- The Cubic Chunks Mod is back! Be a part of it's rebirth and Development.
-- Robinton's Mods: [ Mirror ] for some of his Mods incl Cubic Chunks Mod, due to DropBox broken links.
- Dungeon Generator for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
- QuickSAVE-QuickLOAD for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
Would someone PLEASE PM me with instructions (or a link to instructions) on what I need and how to compile one of the Github Amidst projects to a .jar file?
There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous people. R.A. Heinlein
If you aren't part of the solution, then you obviously weren't properly dissolved.
The latest release of Amidst, version 4.6 can be found here:
https://github.com/toolbox4minecraft/amidst/releases
You should probably also read this:
https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding-java-edition/minecraft-tools/2970854-amidst-map-explorer-for-minecraft-1-14
You can find me on the Minecraft Forums Discord server.
https://discord.gg/wGrQNKX
I have not yet succeeded in building a standalone jar.
Hope this helps.
I have some bad news. Other than the PC solution (Starting AMIDST with a .bat file that sets it to look in an alternate path of your choosing) my testing makes it look like the versions of AMIDST that work with mc 1.6.4 and above (with new launcher and directory structure) no longer pop up with the dialog allowing you to manually select a minecraft.jar from a completely different path. Some versions before that DID do that, AMIDST 2.1 for sure as I just now did it with it but it's highest compatibility is with mc1.5.2.
This is rather bad, but an example of something that really should be easily fixable in the code, I hope. I would like to think that an option for an alternate Install location could be added again in case of it not finding the default install (instead of erroring out), and also added to the Profile selection Dialog so that even if you do have something in the Default location you still would have an easy option for moving it's focus elsewhere as well. It would seem a natural dialog to add that to.
For now though it looks like I will be using the following Method to use the newer AMIDST versions with my Alternately located Minecraft Installs on my Windows PC. I know that you, BEM73, primarily use a Mac so I apologize that I don't know of an immediate solution for use with that but hopefully this will at least allow you use of AMIDST with your Gameband whenever you have access to a Windows PC.
(Open Spoiler below for Instructions and script){Javascript must be enabled for Spoilers to work here + Sometimes the page must be reloaded for a spoiler button to appear (a problem with this forum software)}:
- Method to use the mc1.6.4+ AMIDST versions with Alternately located Minecraft Installs on a Windows PC -
1: You will want to enable the 3 letter file extensions (things like .txt and .bat etc) on your PC if they are turned off.
2: Create a new Text file ( .txt ) with NotePad, WordPad or whatever then open it, you can customize the filename later if wished.
3: Copy and Paste the following two lines of script into the text file:
set APPDATA=C:\Minecraft\Minecraft_1.8.0
C:\Minecraft\__Tools\AMIDST\AMIDST-3.7.exe
4: Replace the Red colored Path with the path to the folder that YOUR desired ".minecraft" folder is inside of. Do NOT add quote marks to the script above.
5. Replace the Blue colored Path with the complete path to the AMIDST.exe file you wish to run. You can keep the AMIDST.exe file anywhere and name it anything.
6. Save the file and close it. Now you rename the file extension; Start the normal process of renaming the file then select the ".txt" part instead of the first part of the name. Replace the ".txt" with ".bat" then finish/Enter. It will ask you if you are sure, click Yes.
7. You are done! You could run this file now and it should work as desired. However you will likely wish to customize the .bat script filename to make it clear what it is doing. Some suggestions are listed below along with some other considerations.
Script Naming:
Someone using a Gameband might wish to name the Script something like: "AMIDST-3.7_for_Gameband.bat".
Someone using a USB Stick might wish to name the Script something like: "AMIDST-3.7_for_Stick-01.bat".
Someone with a separate install of Minecraft on their computer set to only ever play mc1.8.0 vanilla: "AMIDST-3.7_for_mc180v.bat".
Someone with a separate install of Minecraft on their computer set to only ever play a modded mc1.8.0: "AMIDST-3.7_for_mc180m.bat".
** You can use the exact same copy of AMIDST for as many separate installs of Minecraft as you wish. Just create a separate .bat file for each target Minecraft folder and use the same path for AMIDST in each one but a custom path for each of the Minecrafts, and of course appropriately name each .bat file so you know what each one is for.
*** When doing this with a USB stick or Gameband the Drive Letter used for it may change depending on the computer you stick it into. If this happens you may unfortunately have to go back into your .bat file and change the drive letter of the paths to anything on that stick to whatever Drive letter you now need. So instead of something like "E:" you might need to change it to something like "G:".
**** To open and edit a .bat file you first run a text editor like NotePad or WordPad then use its menu to select and open the desired .bat file. Then save it like normal when finished editing it.
.
* The same sort of Method can also be used for the actual Install and Running of Minecraft itself from any location on a Windows PC that you choose, as many copies as you want. The specific Instructions for that are { HERE }.
WARNING about AMIDST 3.7: (This has nothing to do with the method I described in the spoiler):
v3.7 is erroring out for me, even when used normally with a default location and no .bat file, whenever I select a world created with mc180. It works just fine though when being given the same seed manually as used for that world folder. - I just wanted to point out that this is not a bug caused by using the .bat method, it happens without it in default as well.
.
- The Cubic Chunks Mod is back! Be a part of it's rebirth and Development.
-- Robinton's Mods: [ Mirror ] for some of his Mods incl Cubic Chunks Mod, due to DropBox broken links.
- Dungeon Generator for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
- QuickSAVE-QuickLOAD for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
Not sure what Multi MC is, but I guess it's a launcher of some kind? Not sure why that would make a difference, AMIDST is a stand alone mapping program, not a mod of any kind.
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To tell them how to live is to prevent them living.
http://multimc.org/
My original answer still stands, no matter what you use to launch the game, AMIDST just goes by what version you're running, and generates the biome map from there. As long as you pick the same game version you are running, it will use that to generate the map. Modded versions do not work though, only vanilla biomes.
D_B
To tell them how to live is to prevent them living.
Your version of amidst does not support your version of minecraft.
Thanks!
TMO's Realms Blog (v0.15+)
MCPE Survival Blog #2 - Rhageos (v0.11-0.12)
My MCPE Survival world Blog (v0.9-0.10)
MCPE Hardcore Blog (v0.10)
Their site only links to iTunes, so possibly only available on Macs at this time.
TMO's Realms Blog (v0.15+)
MCPE Survival Blog #2 - Rhageos (v0.11-0.12)
My MCPE Survival world Blog (v0.9-0.10)
MCPE Hardcore Blog (v0.10)