The light from a star could not push your ship, but "Solar wind" pulled ships have been a theorized alternative to nuclear bomb powered ships for getting between two planets. It would technically require you to stay near a star constantly if you want to have the fastest trip to your goal. It would be an interesting method of travel since the shortest path wouldn't be the fastest, but the trip that takes you through the most densely populated areas of space to get your goal.
Solar sails are canon in the Star Wars universe, although ships like that are rare. One notable example is Count Dooku's sloop, seen in Episode II: Attack of the Clones.
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Solar sails have such weak propulsion that it is supposed to take years to get up to full speed. I don't think it would be a viable form of travel for this mod if you intend to do it by the book.
I somehow don't think that photons would have the energy required to accelerate a ship like that. What it seems like your doing is essentially "riding" the wave of photons. That wouldn't work, as you're forgetting, as far as I can tell at least, that if you generate the standing wave, then it will just go around, through, or bounce off the ship. IT wouldn't have enough energy to move the ship.
You are all looking at it wrong. You should not be moving your ship through space; you should be moving space around your ship.
Yes exactly. The bubble is just a metaphor. You are actually moving space around your ship...I realize it's kind of complicated, but basically it is NOT like a wave of light/photons. You create so much energy, time and space warp around you. So your ship is technically standing still, space is just moving around it. All theoretical, but thats how it works :wink.gif:
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Solar sails have such weak propulsion that it is supposed to take years to get up to full speed. I don't think it would be a viable form of travel for this mod if you intend to do it by the book.
Really, Traveling between planets in a solar system in a reasonable time frame would use about as much energy as it would take to just blow up entire planets..... So arguing over how efficient various methods would be isn't quite as important as balancing out as many interesting styles of play as possible, right?
Solar sails have such weak propulsion that it is supposed to take years to get up to full speed. I don't think it would be a viable form of travel for this mod if you intend to do it by the book.
This is an issue. Count Dooku's sloop (a modified Punworcca 116-class interstellar sloop) could accelerate up to 1000 G's using the sail, but main propulsion was from a Class 1.5 hyperdrive. By contrast, a Y-wing, which is really quite slow, can accelerate up to 2700 G's, and a fast A-wing can accelerate at 5100 G's.
Yeah. I didn't say it would be fast. It would be energy efficient, and would slow down as you moved away from a solar system. It would be excellent for non combat craft since it is cheap, and would be good for going from world from world and taking as many stops as possible, so it would be for the person who would want to hop from world to world to visit various people.
Well, maybe pushing space down in front of your ship and space up to make something like a
"space wave". You could go faster than light with science!
Sounds good, if there's anything to "pull" in space.
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This is an issue. Count Dooku's sloop (a modified Punworcca 116-class interstellar sloop) could accelerate up to 1000 G's using the sail, but main propulsion was from a Class 1.5 hyperdrive. By contrast, a Y-wing, which is really quite slow, can accelerate up to 2700 G's, and a fast A-wing can accelerate at 5100 G's.
Unless their version of g-force is way less than ours, those numbers sound pretty unrealistic. For reference, humans die at 50 g.
Unless their version of g-force is way less than ours, those numbers sound pretty unrealistic. For reference, humans die at 50 g.
Technically, Jedi seems to be measuring speed, as I doubt that someone would be suffering force equivalent to 1000X earths gravity in the void of space, as in, far from just about everything that could produce that much gavity.
I somehow don't think that photons would have the energy required to accelerate a ship like that. What it seems like your doing is essentially "riding" the wave of photons. That wouldn't work, as you're forgetting, as far as I can tell at least, that if you generate the standing wave, then it will just go around, through, or bounce off the ship. IT wouldn't have enough energy to move the ship.
At least, I think that’s how it goes...
But even still, you’re trying to push a ship using a wave/beam/whatever-you-wish-to-call-it of light.
I wasn't meaning that the ship was being propelled in any way by light. I was describing a theory for what photons are and stating that if a similar Standing wave could be generated in the material of Space itself on a larger scale around a ship that it might be possible for the ship to be carried at the speed of light in a straight line. Once a standing wave is generated it is essentially self-perpetuating until it meets a sufficient obstacle. So other than the power needed to initiate the Standing wave and to collapse it, no other power would be needed to keep it going. It could theoretically keep going forever or until it hits a planet. Just like a photon. :wink.gif:
I have a link in my post, it takes you to a site somewhat explaining it :tongue.gif:
Read post below.
Yes exactly. The bubble is just a metaphor. You are actually moving space around your ship...I realize it's kind of complicated, but basically it is NOT like a wave of light/photons. You create so much energy, time and space warp around you. So your ship is technically standing still, space is just moving around it. All theoretical, but thats how it works :wink.gif:
oops, I somehow got distracted by my own typing enough that I missed the link, I'll check that out thanks!
Exactly!
@ Cameron16: I've read the article you linked to now. There are some similarities between that idea and mine, with similar results, but they are different ideas.
That articles method might actually be able to result in FTL whereas mine, on the face of it, would "only" achieve Light Speed travel. One trade off though would be the energy required. The method in that article is stated to require tremendous power to maintain, whereas the Standing Wave method would not. So there are trade off's. :wink.gif:
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what about drop pods 2 ideas one like from halo where you get in and push the button then you drop from high up the air to land safely on the ground and then you get out or one like from the book "Bug Wars" where its a type of gel that disappears when you land.
I agree. If the shipyard was organized into many 'docks' (think about parking spaces), with a ship under construction in each one, then you could put a ship in the first dock in each row, and the NPCs would duplicate it in all the other docks in that row.
That would work well for small ships like fighters or drop ships, but not so much for larger ships. I was also thinking that it would be a bit more futuristic to have some sort of robot arm that places blocks instead of NPCs.
Unless their version of g-force is way less than ours, those numbers sound pretty unrealistic. For reference, humans die at 50 g.
In Star Wars, the smaller ships like fighters use inertial compensators to keep that from happening. On larger ships, the artificial gravity generators are good enough to deal with it. I believe G-force is measured in Coruscant standard gravity, which (by amazing coincidence) is the same as Earth gravity.
@ Cameron16: I've read the article you linked to now. There are some similarities between that idea and mine, with similar results, but they are different ideas.
That articles method might actually be able to result in FTL whereas mine, on the face of it, would "only" achieve Light Speed travel. One trade off though would be the energy required. The method in that article is stated to require tremendous power to maintain, whereas the Standing Wave method would not. So there are trade off's. :wink.gif:
Well, supposedly the ZPM (Zero-Point Module) creates an enormus amount of energy, so I think if this engine was to be accepted, then it would require the ZPM, but allow for faster travel between systems. Still would like Mackeroths opinion on it :wink.gif:
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Solar sails are canon in the Star Wars universe, although ships like that are rare. One notable example is Count Dooku's sloop, seen in Episode II: Attack of the Clones.
I have a link in my post, it takes you to a site somewhat explaining it :tongue.gif:
Read post below.
Yes exactly. The bubble is just a metaphor. You are actually moving space around your ship...I realize it's kind of complicated, but basically it is NOT like a wave of light/photons. You create so much energy, time and space warp around you. So your ship is technically standing still, space is just moving around it. All theoretical, but thats how it works :wink.gif:
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Same with ionized particle thrusters.
"space wave". You could go faster than light with science!
This is an issue. Count Dooku's sloop (a modified Punworcca 116-class interstellar sloop) could accelerate up to 1000 G's using the sail, but main propulsion was from a Class 1.5 hyperdrive. By contrast, a Y-wing, which is really quite slow, can accelerate up to 2700 G's, and a fast A-wing can accelerate at 5100 G's.
Sounds good, if there's anything to "pull" in space.
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Unless their version of g-force is way less than ours, those numbers sound pretty unrealistic. For reference, humans die at 50 g.
Technically, Jedi seems to be measuring speed, as I doubt that someone would be suffering force equivalent to 1000X earths gravity in the void of space, as in, far from just about everything that could produce that much gavity.
I wasn't meaning that the ship was being propelled in any way by light. I was describing a theory for what photons are and stating that if a similar Standing wave could be generated in the material of Space itself on a larger scale around a ship that it might be possible for the ship to be carried at the speed of light in a straight line. Once a standing wave is generated it is essentially self-perpetuating until it meets a sufficient obstacle. So other than the power needed to initiate the Standing wave and to collapse it, no other power would be needed to keep it going. It could theoretically keep going forever or until it hits a planet. Just like a photon. :wink.gif:
Exactly, although you wouldn't have to keep moving the space, just initiate a standing wave and it will move itself.
oops, I somehow got distracted by my own typing enough that I missed the link, I'll check that out thanks!
Exactly!
Well, at least at the speed of light. :wink.gif:
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That articles method might actually be able to result in FTL whereas mine, on the face of it, would "only" achieve Light Speed travel. One trade off though would be the energy required. The method in that article is stated to require tremendous power to maintain, whereas the Standing Wave method would not. So there are trade off's. :wink.gif:
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That would work well for small ships like fighters or drop ships, but not so much for larger ships. I was also thinking that it would be a bit more futuristic to have some sort of robot arm that places blocks instead of NPCs.
In Star Wars, the smaller ships like fighters use inertial compensators to keep that from happening. On larger ships, the artificial gravity generators are good enough to deal with it. I believe G-force is measured in Coruscant standard gravity, which (by amazing coincidence) is the same as Earth gravity.
Well, supposedly the ZPM (Zero-Point Module) creates an enormus amount of energy, so I think if this engine was to be accepted, then it would require the ZPM, but allow for faster travel between systems. Still would like Mackeroths opinion on it :wink.gif:
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