More importantly, this game is going the direction it was intended to from InDev days. Notch has ALWAYS intended this game to become more game-based and less sandboxy. However, in the interests of catering to the crowd that prefered the sandbox, he implemented the creative mode.
You either play the game with the game-based attributes added to it, or you play it as a creative sandbox. It's not possible to play both, or to take the particular elements you like from each to make your own game. This is where you stop being a self-entitled and pretentious asswipe and pick.
What the inventory could have ended up as (totally RPG)
What characters were going to be:
I can't find the actual Word of Notch post I want, with more details about this and other RPG aspects I'm sure you would hate. It exists. It basically says a lot of things you won't like.
This is the part where you learn to deal with them.
Creative mode handily removes all of those things.
Creative also removes about 80% of the rest of the game.
EDIT: the sheer cluelessness contained in some of the posts that I've read here has actually driven me to change my signature. I suggest that you read it before continuing, because I'm tired of explaining the same thing over and over and over.
Creative also removes about 80% of the rest of the game.
So in other words....
You want a very specific subset of a widely accepted baseline of a variety of games as the game you want to play and want to enforce said viewpoint and subset upon the other millions of paying customers because you don't like the little bits that have recently been added.
First: You're an idiot.
Second: You seem to like a bunch of the stuff that has been added, but are so vehemently opposed to some other stuff, that this makes your argument very confusing. I quote "all of the other awesome stuff in the Adventure Update" and wonder to what you are referring, as the majority of the features that were added are those that you are so opposed to.
Third: This is not your game, and from it's early days it was always heading in this direction. Way to fail at your product research before forking out a handful for readies on it.
Fourth: Code it yourself you whiny prat. You're the only one that knows exactly what you want, and arguably the only one that wants this particular set of features. Get cracking. GameDev.net, javabat.com and this modding forum are full of resources for you.
No, he doesn't, and if you don't know why, then you need to read through the whole thread too.
That's not a valid argument because it doesn't address the issue at all.
Creative also removes about 80% of the rest of the game.
EDIT: the sheer cluelessness contained in some of the posts that I've read here has actually driven me to change my signature. I suggest that you read it before continuing, because I'm tired of explaining the same thing over and over and over.
NOW SIR, YOU ARE JUST BEING A SMARTASS. (not that you're smart)
I read the whole freakin thread, I'm sure he did, you are good at making false assumptions.
He addresses the issue by coming up with a way to get around it.
Creative is fun. You're obviously the one who's retarded, because you can't be creative.
You need to shut up, learn that you've lost this, and have just gained a group of about 5+ haters.
Maybe the mods you want, will never exist.
Maybe because others do not feel the same as you.
Maybe if you ask nicely... (hard for you, i know :tongue.gif:) someone will make the mod that you want.
Maybe if you learn to code... you could mod the game yourself. Hell if you think minecraft is so bad... you could even program your own game... and make millions $$$$.
Maybe the mods you want, will never exist.
Maybe because others do not feel the same as you.
Maybe if you ask nicely... (hard for you, i know :tongue.gif:) someone will make the mod that you want.
Maybe if you learn to code... you could mod the game yourself. Hell if you think minecraft is so bad... you could even program your own game... and make millions $$$$.
The mods will appear when someone they decides they care enough to make one.
If that person is not you, then what reason do you have to complain?
But, if you really want to know, what you're after is god-mode and monster-removal mods. Hey presto, it'll be impossible for you accidentally make a brewing stand, earn any experience, or die of hunger! Some side effects expected, but I'm sure you'll be happy to have those major issues resolved. They're what matter, right? :smile.gif:
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You want a very specific subset of a widely accepted baseline of a variety of games as the game you want to play and want to enforce said viewpoint and subset upon the other millions of paying customers because you don't like the little bits that have recently been added.
WRONG. Guess again. Hint: you can't force anyone to play a mod. Betcha didn't know that.
Second: You seem to like a bunch of the stuff that has been added, but are so vehemently opposed to some other stuff, that this makes your argument very confusing. I quote "all of the other awesome stuff in the Adventure Update" and wonder to what you are referring, as the majority of the features that were added are those that you are so opposed to.
The hunger bar and experience are "the majority of the features"?
List of awesome stuff in 1.8 that nobody (to my knowledge) has objected to: stone bricks. Metal bars. New kinds of meat. Farming of pumpkins and melons. DRAMATICALLY improved bow use. Adjustable FOV. Sprinting. Brick stairs + slabs. Hell, just go over the whole changelog and cross off "hunger" and "experience", and that's the list of stuff that everyone either likes or doesn't care about (well, I've heard complaints about the fog at deep elevations...)
Now, since I have just objectively and beyond any shadow of a doubt proven that you have no idea WTF you're talking about, please go be stupid somewhere else.
That's not a valid argument because, oh look, I never claimed that it was. Saying "these one or two things suck" is not the same as saying "I own this".
Attention, retards: "just ignore what you don't like", "just play 1.7.3", "just play creative", and "just quit" are NOT valid solutions. If you don't understand why, then you don't understand the issue at all, and need to STFU. Get it?
I think they do understand the issue. These guys are trying to be helpful (I know most don't sound like it) by offering you some viable solutions to your "problem." As you claim that these mods don't exist yet these seem to be your only options until these mods are made, if ever they are. Calling them "retards" and telling them to "STFU" just reflects negativly on you making you look like an aggressive troll. which just makes these posters angrier and starting flame wars.
You can't flame people for not coming up with a solution that isn't actually possible because that just doesn't make sense. I realise you are just responding to these posts but you shouldn't be flaming people in the same thread that you are asking for help in because that also doesn't make sense.
Just wait a bit--if you'll notice, there aren't many mods updating right now because the full release is so close and we've been dealing with all the pre-releases. Most modders want to wait til they have time to code the mod.
Wait til the full release--maybe TEMPORARILY downgrade until the mod you want is made! It's not perfect, but it's a quick fix until the real mod is here. Suggest the mods in the mod section, see if anyone is interested. I don't think it would be too hard to just add the mods you want. Most of them just don't want to do it YET..because they don't want to recode the whole thing next month--for most of the mods, not just these specifically.
Enough time hasn't passed yet. Not enough people have asked for the mod--people complained, but no one really stepped up and made a well written suggestion or offered to help modders.
Heck, maybe someone can make a 1.7.3 mod with simply the features you like. I remember there was a sprinting mod before, and I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to make certain items stackable. It may be easier to add new things than to subtract already made parts of coding. Talk to modders about this, they will know more than me.
For those saying it will unbalance the game--balance doesn't matter for a modded game. If someone is willing to mod, it's their game, and clearly they don't like a part of gameplay. Not everyone wants to play a difficult game, not everyone wants to play an easy game, and some people maybe just want the sun square or to have the Aether. That's why mods are awesome, because the majority who like the feature don't have to use the mod, but those who want to are free to..and if the game gets boring..oh well, they can delete the mod and find a new one! So don't worry about it, you don't have to download the mod :smile.gif:
You still need to give it time. If no one makes it--ask a nice modder for help so you can make it yourself. Maybe find a few friends who all dislike certain features and together you can put a mod to make 1.8 the way you like it. Like a collaboration where each of you makes one thing and everyone can have an optional download--this download gets rid of hunger but keeps food stacking, or maybe this download removes stacking and keeps hunger, or this one deletes endermen, while this one simply changes their behavior, etc. until you have a perfectly customizable minecaft. Together it won't be too hard, and there are a few people who would be willing to download these 'little' mods to change gameplay to exactly what they want(in the same way people wanted toggles)
Minecraft is one of the easier games to mod, spend some time watching youtube videos and reading up on it, and you'll be modding in under a week! That's if you don't want to wait for someone else!
List of awesome stuff in 1.8 that nobody (to my knowledge) has objected to: stone bricks. Metal bars. New kinds of meat. Farming of pumpkins and melons. DRAMATICALLY improved bow use. Adjustable FOV. Sprinting. Brick stairs + slabs. Hell, just go over the whole changelog and cross off "hunger" and "experience", and that's the list of stuff that everyone either likes or doesn't care about (well, I've heard complaints about the fog at deep elevations...)
Out of all that list... new block.. New block. Hunger-related. Hunger-related. Game-element. Graphical feature. Game element. New block, new block.
So the hunger related stuff needs to go. The game stuff is aparrently not on, because "WE DONT WANT NONE RPG IN MY SANDBOX"... So we get a graphic enhancement and some new blocks.
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Is there really no hunger removing mod? Seems like that'd be an easy one to do (probably a one-line change if all you want do is disable it, a couple lines if you want to make it heal on eating but not heal over time).
Uhh, well it does help to revert back to older versons? He has a valid argument.
Edit(again): When you revert, it means going back to the way you liked it, removing everything you hate right now (plus the stuff you might also like)
More importantly, this game is going the direction it was intended to from InDev days. Notch has ALWAYS intended this game to become more game-based and less sandboxy. However, in the interests of catering to the crowd that prefered the sandbox, he implemented the creative mode.
You either play the game with the game-based attributes added to it, or you play it as a creative sandbox. It's not possible to play both, or to take the particular elements you like from each to make your own game. This is where you stop being a self-entitled and pretentious asswipe and pick.
What the inventory could have ended up as (totally RPG)
What characters were going to be:
I can't find the actual Word of Notch post I want, with more details about this and other RPG aspects I'm sure you would hate. It exists. It basically says a lot of things you won't like.
This is the part where you learn to deal with them.
Oh wait were talking about you i'm sorry an RPG's an RPG.
Put up with things you don't like.
Don't troll about it.
Think outside the box-work out a way around it.
Kthxbai :smile.gif:
Creative mode handily removes all of those things.
You're welcome, have a nice day.
No, he doesn't, and if you don't know why, then you need to read through the whole thread too.
That's not a valid argument because it doesn't address the issue at all.
Creative also removes about 80% of the rest of the game.
EDIT: the sheer cluelessness contained in some of the posts that I've read here has actually driven me to change my signature. I suggest that you read it before continuing, because I'm tired of explaining the same thing over and over and over.
416 stone
296 stone slab (150 blocks)
149 stone stairs (228 blocks)
794 total stone
1082 blackstone
174 blackstone slab (87 blocks)
52 blackstone stairs (78 blocks)
1247 total blackstone
(not counting drawbridges and portcullises)
So in other words....
You want a very specific subset of a widely accepted baseline of a variety of games as the game you want to play and want to enforce said viewpoint and subset upon the other millions of paying customers because you don't like the little bits that have recently been added.
First: You're an idiot.
Second: You seem to like a bunch of the stuff that has been added, but are so vehemently opposed to some other stuff, that this makes your argument very confusing. I quote "all of the other awesome stuff in the Adventure Update" and wonder to what you are referring, as the majority of the features that were added are those that you are so opposed to.
Third: This is not your game, and from it's early days it was always heading in this direction. Way to fail at your product research before forking out a handful for readies on it.
Fourth: Code it yourself you whiny prat. You're the only one that knows exactly what you want, and arguably the only one that wants this particular set of features. Get cracking. GameDev.net, javabat.com and this modding forum are full of resources for you.
NOW SIR, YOU ARE JUST BEING A SMARTASS. (not that you're smart)
I read the whole freakin thread, I'm sure he did, you are good at making false assumptions.
He addresses the issue by coming up with a way to get around it.
Creative is fun. You're obviously the one who's retarded, because you can't be creative.
You need to shut up, learn that you've lost this, and have just gained a group of about 5+ haters.
I think the word you're looking for is dumbass. Or ass.
Maybe because others do not feel the same as you.
Maybe if you ask nicely... (hard for you, i know :tongue.gif:) someone will make the mod that you want.
Maybe if you learn to code... you could mod the game yourself. Hell if you think minecraft is so bad... you could even program your own game... and make millions $$$$.
Hopefully it won't be another Fortresscraft. Lol
If that person is not you, then what reason do you have to complain?
But, if you really want to know, what you're after is god-mode and monster-removal mods. Hey presto, it'll be impossible for you accidentally make a brewing stand, earn any experience, or die of hunger! Some side effects expected, but I'm sure you'll be happy to have those major issues resolved. They're what matter, right? :smile.gif:
WRONG. Guess again. Hint: you can't force anyone to play a mod. Betcha didn't know that.
The hunger bar and experience are "the majority of the features"?
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List of awesome stuff in 1.8 that nobody (to my knowledge) has objected to: stone bricks. Metal bars. New kinds of meat. Farming of pumpkins and melons. DRAMATICALLY improved bow use. Adjustable FOV. Sprinting. Brick stairs + slabs. Hell, just go over the whole changelog and cross off "hunger" and "experience", and that's the list of stuff that everyone either likes or doesn't care about (well, I've heard complaints about the fog at deep elevations...)
Now, since I have just objectively and beyond any shadow of a doubt proven that you have no idea WTF you're talking about, please go be stupid somewhere else.
That's not a valid argument because, oh look, I never claimed that it was. Saying "these one or two things suck" is not the same as saying "I own this".
Well, me and apparently half of the forum (from what I've seen).
Your posts prove that you didn't.
This is.. the most retarded argument I've heard yet. "You prefer survival, so you can't be creative"? BULL. ****.
The ten million other threads in which people are criticizing the changes indicate otherwise.
I don't. Thanks for playing, though.
416 stone
296 stone slab (150 blocks)
149 stone stairs (228 blocks)
794 total stone
1082 blackstone
174 blackstone slab (87 blocks)
52 blackstone stairs (78 blocks)
1247 total blackstone
(not counting drawbridges and portcullises)
I think they do understand the issue. These guys are trying to be helpful (I know most don't sound like it) by offering you some viable solutions to your "problem." As you claim that these mods don't exist yet these seem to be your only options until these mods are made, if ever they are. Calling them "retards" and telling them to "STFU" just reflects negativly on you making you look like an aggressive troll. which just makes these posters angrier and starting flame wars.
You can't flame people for not coming up with a solution that isn't actually possible because that just doesn't make sense. I realise you are just responding to these posts but you shouldn't be flaming people in the same thread that you are asking for help in because that also doesn't make sense.
Wait til the full release--maybe TEMPORARILY downgrade until the mod you want is made! It's not perfect, but it's a quick fix until the real mod is here. Suggest the mods in the mod section, see if anyone is interested. I don't think it would be too hard to just add the mods you want. Most of them just don't want to do it YET..because they don't want to recode the whole thing next month--for most of the mods, not just these specifically.
Enough time hasn't passed yet. Not enough people have asked for the mod--people complained, but no one really stepped up and made a well written suggestion or offered to help modders.
Heck, maybe someone can make a 1.7.3 mod with simply the features you like. I remember there was a sprinting mod before, and I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to make certain items stackable. It may be easier to add new things than to subtract already made parts of coding. Talk to modders about this, they will know more than me.
For those saying it will unbalance the game--balance doesn't matter for a modded game. If someone is willing to mod, it's their game, and clearly they don't like a part of gameplay. Not everyone wants to play a difficult game, not everyone wants to play an easy game, and some people maybe just want the sun square or to have the Aether. That's why mods are awesome, because the majority who like the feature don't have to use the mod, but those who want to are free to..and if the game gets boring..oh well, they can delete the mod and find a new one! So don't worry about it, you don't have to download the mod :smile.gif:
You still need to give it time. If no one makes it--ask a nice modder for help so you can make it yourself. Maybe find a few friends who all dislike certain features and together you can put a mod to make 1.8 the way you like it. Like a collaboration where each of you makes one thing and everyone can have an optional download--this download gets rid of hunger but keeps food stacking, or maybe this download removes stacking and keeps hunger, or this one deletes endermen, while this one simply changes their behavior, etc. until you have a perfectly customizable minecaft. Together it won't be too hard, and there are a few people who would be willing to download these 'little' mods to change gameplay to exactly what they want(in the same way people wanted toggles)
Minecraft is one of the easier games to mod, spend some time watching youtube videos and reading up on it, and you'll be modding in under a week! That's if you don't want to wait for someone else!
At what point did I mention a mod? I summarised your point and you went completely tangenital.
Out of all that list... new block.. New block. Hunger-related. Hunger-related. Game-element. Graphical feature. Game element. New block, new block.
So the hunger related stuff needs to go. The game stuff is aparrently not on, because "WE DONT WANT NONE RPG IN MY SANDBOX"... So we get a graphic enhancement and some new blocks.
Why is it that you can't play creative again?