The way I see things are that there will always be some people do not like what is put into this mod. There is no way around it with a mod this size. The people who don't like something that was added have a right to voice their opinion as long as it is respectful and they actually say what it is that they don't like. The modders then have the right to either add changes to appease you or to ignore it. Ultimately, it is their mod and so they will always have the last word. If the people who don't necessarily like every aspect of the mod can't handle that there is something they don't like, then there is nothing really to say other than don't download it. I understand that saying not to download it seems rather harsh but what else can you say.
@king If you're feeling under appreciated take a break from modding and updating the thread and don't tell people when you will be back. After about a week people will be begging for you to come back.
...
So, yeah, I'm done here, I'd just like to say that I'm not going to
support a thread like this that has no logic or theme to it.
And yet you post on the forums for Minecraft...
Wait, what's that supposed to mean?
That minecraft is:
-a thread on a forum
No. Just no.
That minecraft has:
-no theme
-no logic
Next time you quote me can you be a little more clear?
kthxbai
Also:
@king being depressed:
Don't be hard on yourself. This would be incredible if you could do this. I'm just criticizing it
because it could be better. I'm excited with the work you've done already,
but the main thing I DON'T want is for it to be almost exactly
like the overworld.underworld. normal minecraft world. I would like to
see a lot of thought and detail put into the dungeons and the mobs, because for me
that's what makes the Aether. I mean, sure, floating islands, but floating islands
with a small, fun challenge on each one. While Grey's nether is something of a hack 'n' slash,
the Aether should be more temple/village/dungeon/small island with ruins based. Maybe even
boss mobs? But yeah, a temple or ten would be really awesome, with golems and shrines and
hidden rooms..
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Aesthetics. Give them to us.
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I think Grey just hates putting new things into the game unless they can be completely and fully justified for at least 3 uses, not including looking cool.
Fair enough. However, I still don't see why you don't want to "officially" support the mod. Most of the things which you are concerned with have already been cleared up in private messages. Golden clouds were removed a while ago, I just haven't updated the front post yet.
Didn't realize that about the gold clouds, but either way, if I say "I officially support this mod" it would be the same as me saying "this is the way the Aether was intended to be, and all aspects are either as good or better than what I envisioned"
Right now, I can't make a blanket statement like that. I just don't DO that. What I CAN do, and what I have already been doing, is giving approval on specific aspects that have been verified, or at least making it known what I am open to but uncertain of.
So far the Sentries, Swets, Sheepuffs, Moa, and most of the other Mobs come out as good or even better than how they were conceived of in the Suggestion thread. The new mobs I'm not so big on, but am reserving judgment until I can get a better impression of how they would function.
As for Islands generation, it definitely seems to be headed in the right direction. The Flora and Fauna are all looking very nice as well, I can approve of what I see so far.
I am confident that the fire and lava issue will be worked out to something I approve of. Glowstone portals activated by water are of course auto-approved, but I'm still uncertain about using material other than glowstone for future portals. With the ability to fall back to the overworld, it just doesn't seem necessary.
The lack of blocks from the suggestions thread being mentioned as of yet isn't a surprise. They have a high degree of complexity to their features. I am uncertain if some will be dropped, or if they will be modified to features that are "close enough" this to me is the biggest concern as much of the Aether I knew was grounded very heavily in these blocks, and they are also what I see as the highest hurdle that many people would feel is easier to simply skip or do only partway rather than to attempt. Basically what I want to see is;
Cold Cloud disappears temporarily when walked on or hit
Galestone&Flowvein - as described in suggestions
Aetherock - as described in suggestions(from what I hear, this may be doable)
Quicksoil - as described in suggestions
Floatsand&Hoverglass - as described (if possible, as I'm not even sure if it is)
and beyond that other additions like rubbery blue clouds are gravy and aether specific dirt/tree/stone blocks are gravy. I was never entirely satisfied with Crystal as a block, so if that gets covered by the mod I'm fully open to interpretation on that.
The Tool Tiers are basically the last big controversy in my eyes. I FULLY support the concept behind how the tiers are being handled, but I am apprehensive for how the execution of that concept will come across.
Actually, now that I've thought about it a bit, I think I understand where some hurt feeling are coming from: Whether I "officially support" this mod is an issue entirely separate from how much I like it or my assessment of the quality of work put into it.
I don't see it as constructive criticism unless he has given me the "elements" or reasons as to why something is wrong. It's like participating in a debate, and saying "You are wrong because I think so!". Obviously, that doesn't work. Unlike Sabata2, you've actually given me reasons and feedback accordingly, which is one reason why I respect you.
I have to admit, sabata is being a little ranty there, but as he said; from what is and isn't being said about this mod, (at least publicly, and please keep in mind that I haven't been discussing any of the details about our PMs publicly, except for occasionally making vague mentioned about what issues I've raised with you) he's getting left with the impression that this mod is headed almost the exact same direction as what the Nether Update suggestion went, and that was bad enough that it prompted him to get an entirely NEW Nether suggestion together just because of how much he disliked the existing one.
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@king If you're feeling under appreciated take a break from modding and updating the thread and don't tell people when you will be back. After about a week people will be begging for you to come back.
Well, obviously. He barely even has to hint at leaving and you end up with people going "please don't leave! All those people saying bad tings are just jerks!" but the real issue is whether leaving would change the tune of anyone who had been leaving negative comments, which I don't think would really do much.
When I see this post when I'm coding this mod (so I imagine i'm kingbdogz)
I would wish there was an IP ban for you to download this mod. (don't say you don't wanna download this)
Start modding and see how hard it can be. you!
I don't want to download this.
So, it's hard to recolor a tree? Wow. Didn't know that.
Seriously, calm down.
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I am so sad that there are so ignorant people that they dont understand THIS ISNT UR MOD GREYACCUMEN THIS IS COLLAB AND URE ONLY SUGGESTER AND MODDERS HAVE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT IN MOD!
Okay, people have stated that, and he realizes that, but he's just making suggestions
and giving constructive criticismmostly constructive criticism feedback.
He's not saying "D3rp 7Hi5 5uX min3 is b3773R" he's saying "Okay, this is how you could improve
it with these things from my thread."
Please stop the mindless rage against Grey.
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Aesthetics. Give them to us.
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I think Grey just hates putting new things into the game unless they can be completely and fully justified for at least 3 uses, not including looking cool.
@king If you're feeling under appreciated take a break from modding and updating the thread and don't tell people when you will be back. After about a week people will be begging for you to come back.
Well, obviously. He barely even has to hint at leaving and you end up with people going "please don't leave! All those people saying bad tings are just jerks!" but the real issue is whether leaving would change the tune of anyone who had been leaving negative comments, which I don't think would really do much.
I think it would. It would give the people who leave pointless negative comments a opportunity the realize that even if they don't like every aspect of the mod it is still better than nothing.
This Is the greatest mod of all time but I was wondering what will the portal be made out of?
Also take as long as you want the longer it takes the better it will be!
I am so sad that there are so ignorant people that they dont understand THIS ISNT UR MOD GREYACCUMEN THIS IS COLLAB AND URE ONLY SUGGESTER AND MODDERS HAVE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT IN MOD!
Putting aside grammer issues, excessive size, and needless coloring. If this was entirely their concept of entirely their own ideas and models and other features, then yes, you'd be entirely correct, however when you're talking about an idea that has been pounded out by a completely separate group of people for close to 100 pages before this mod was even announced, and this mod is claiming to be based on that suggestion, then those "rights" are not so absolute, or at the very least they do not extend so far as to be immune to criticism from those who disagree with the changes they make.
So kindly STFU and let the adults discuss the important issues. You can cheer for whichever side you want, but you damn well don't try to make it out that I don't have a right to voice my opinions.
When reading all of these negative comments, I always come back with a bitter taste in my mouth. It feels like the 4 hours of coding I put towards this mod each and every day is such a waste of time. I could be doing much more important things, like studying for my upcoming Physics tests.
Don't worry king there are thousands of minecraft players who is so excited about this mod, so lets say around 92% are waiting for this awsome mod to come out and the rest 8% hate this mod, so ignore those stupid and selfish negative comments who want what they want it to look like and carry on modding making those 92% of poeple extreamely happy :wink.gif: that includes me :biggrin.gif:
Diamonds for you and your hard work :biggrin.gif:
this mod deservez 3059% of the minecraft population not only 90% for it 8% against it and 2% not knowing anything about it but again this mod deservez 3059% of the minecraft population!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sweat should drop sweat beads that can be made into a necklace to reduce fall damage oh and the sweats shouldent take fall damage either (just a thought that popped into my head while watching the vid lol)
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where = sweat beads, and ]" title="-<->" /> = string
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ever seen the treasure mobs mod???? well i did the artwork
When reading all of these negative comments, I always come back with a bitter taste in my mouth. It feels like the 4 hours of coding I put towards this mod each and every day is such a waste of time. I could be doing much more important things, like studying for my upcoming Physics tests.
Don't worry king there are thousands of minecraft players who is so excited about this mod, so lets say around 92% are waiting for this awsome mod to come out and the rest 8% hate this mod, so ignore those stupid and selfish negative comments who want what they want it to look like and carry on modding making those 92% of poeple extreamely happy :wink.gif: that includes me :biggrin.gif:
Diamonds for you and your hard work :biggrin.gif:
this mod deservez 3059% of the minecraft population not only 90% for it 8% against it and 2% not knowing anything about it but again this mod deservez 3059% of the minecraft population!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now now everybody. Come down.
GreyAcumen is just giving some advice and things that he'd like implemented. It isn't something to get you apeshit crazy over...
omg i just read the posts before mine im sorry i really love this mod i thinks its the best thing in minecraft i just had an idea and thought that it you might like it pls dont feel bad D:
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ever seen the treasure mobs mod???? well i did the artwork
I am so sad that there are so ignorant people that they dont understand THIS ISNT UR MOD GREYACCUMEN THIS IS COLLAB AND URE ONLY SUGGESTER AND MODDERS HAVE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT IN MOD!
Putting aside grammer issues, excessive size, and needless coloring. If this was entirely their concept of entirely their own ideas and models and other features, then yes, you'd be entirely correct, however when you're talking about an idea that has been pounded out by a completely separate group of people for close to 100 pages before this mod was even announced, and this mod is claiming to be based on that suggestion, then those "rights" are not so absolute, or at the very least they do not extend so far as to be immune to criticism from those who disagree with the changes they make.
So kindly STFU and let the adults discuss the important issues. You can cheer for whichever side you want, but you damn well don't try to make it out that I don't have a right to voice my opinions.
Why the fck u are so rude?
Hypocrite much? lol
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Dude you really need to learn when NO-ONE cares and you should really not try to be all grammatically correct and posh its not cool... and saying "putting aside grammer issues" then "STFU" thats just a complete... fail. Okay yes you were giving your opinions but you sounded kinda forceful like you were blackmailing so i can see why grave would say what he did. But yeah you are right that you do opinion to free speech or whatever but you have to no that its not your choice its a suggestion
So STFU is incorrect grammar?
o.O
I agree with some of this, but not the first bit.
Also,
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Now now everybody. Come down.
GreyAcumen is just giving some advice and things that he'd like implemented. It isn't something to get you apeshit crazy over...
Thank you. You are a much-needed voice of reason.
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Aesthetics. Give them to us.
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I think Grey just hates putting new things into the game unless they can be completely and fully justified for at least 3 uses, not including looking cool.
I love how many are complaining about the delay. Not to sound rude, but a quick suggestion about mods since people are impatient: don't set a release date. I'm eager to see this mod's release too, but I'm thankful for what I have right now.
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...
So, yeah, I'm done here, I'd just like to say that I'm not going to
support a thread like this that has no logic or theme to it.
And yet you post on the forums for Minecraft...
Wait, what's that supposed to mean?
That minecraft is:
-a thread on a forum
No. Just no.
That minecraft has:
-no theme
-no logic
Next time you quote me can you be a little more clear?
kthxbai
...
I guess I should be more clear; this mod has no less theme and logic than Minecraft does. In fact, it has a specific theme. I won't get pedantic about it, but "I'm not going to support a thread like this that has no logic or theme to it" wasn't a great reason.
@king If you're feeling under appreciated take a break from modding and updating the thread and don't tell people when you will be back. After about a week people will be begging for you to come back.
Wait, what's that supposed to mean?
That minecraft is:
-a thread on a forum
No. Just no.
That minecraft has:
-no theme
-no logic
Next time you quote me can you be a little more clear?
kthxbai
Also:
@king being depressed:
Don't be hard on yourself. This would be incredible if you could do this. I'm just criticizing it
because it could be better. I'm excited with the work you've done already,
but the main thing I DON'T want is for it to be almost exactly
like the
overworld.underworld.normal minecraft world. I would like tosee a lot of thought and detail put into the dungeons and the mobs, because for me
that's what makes the Aether. I mean, sure, floating islands, but floating islands
with a small, fun challenge on each one. While Grey's nether is something of a hack 'n' slash,
the Aether should be more temple/village/dungeon/small island with ruins based. Maybe even
boss mobs? But yeah, a temple or ten would be really awesome, with golems and shrines and
hidden rooms..
Right now, I can't make a blanket statement like that. I just don't DO that. What I CAN do, and what I have already been doing, is giving approval on specific aspects that have been verified, or at least making it known what I am open to but uncertain of.
So far the Sentries, Swets, Sheepuffs, Moa, and most of the other Mobs come out as good or even better than how they were conceived of in the Suggestion thread. The new mobs I'm not so big on, but am reserving judgment until I can get a better impression of how they would function.
As for Islands generation, it definitely seems to be headed in the right direction. The Flora and Fauna are all looking very nice as well, I can approve of what I see so far.
I am confident that the fire and lava issue will be worked out to something I approve of. Glowstone portals activated by water are of course auto-approved, but I'm still uncertain about using material other than glowstone for future portals. With the ability to fall back to the overworld, it just doesn't seem necessary.
The lack of blocks from the suggestions thread being mentioned as of yet isn't a surprise. They have a high degree of complexity to their features. I am uncertain if some will be dropped, or if they will be modified to features that are "close enough" this to me is the biggest concern as much of the Aether I knew was grounded very heavily in these blocks, and they are also what I see as the highest hurdle that many people would feel is easier to simply skip or do only partway rather than to attempt. Basically what I want to see is;
Cold Cloud disappears temporarily when walked on or hit
and beyond that other additions like rubbery blue clouds are gravy and aether specific dirt/tree/stone blocks are gravy. I was never entirely satisfied with Crystal as a block, so if that gets covered by the mod I'm fully open to interpretation on that.Galestone&Flowvein - as described in suggestions
Aetherock - as described in suggestions(from what I hear, this may be doable)
Quicksoil - as described in suggestions
Floatsand&Hoverglass - as described (if possible, as I'm not even sure if it is)
The Tool Tiers are basically the last big controversy in my eyes. I FULLY support the concept behind how the tiers are being handled, but I am apprehensive for how the execution of that concept will come across.
Actually, now that I've thought about it a bit, I think I understand where some hurt feeling are coming from: Whether I "officially support" this mod is an issue entirely separate from how much I like it or my assessment of the quality of work put into it.
I have to admit, sabata is being a little ranty there, but as he said; from what is and isn't being said about this mod, (at least publicly, and please keep in mind that I haven't been discussing any of the details about our PMs publicly, except for occasionally making vague mentioned about what issues I've raised with you) he's getting left with the impression that this mod is headed almost the exact same direction as what the Nether Update suggestion went, and that was bad enough that it prompted him to get an entirely NEW Nether suggestion together just because of how much he disliked the existing one.
Well, obviously. He barely even has to hint at leaving and you end up with people going "please don't leave! All those people saying bad tings are just jerks!" but the real issue is whether leaving would change the tune of anyone who had been leaving negative comments, which I don't think would really do much.
PLEASE ALSO SUPPORT:
Sabata & Grey Acumen's "New Nether"
Grey Acumen's Minecraft 2.0 Suggestion Series
I don't want to download this.So, it's hard to recolor a tree? Wow. Didn't know that.
Seriously, calm down.
Okay, people have stated that, and he realizes that, but he's just making suggestions
and giving
constructive criticismmostly constructive criticismfeedback.He's not saying "D3rp 7Hi5 5uX min3 is b3773R" he's saying "Okay, this is how you could improve
it with these things from my thread."
Please stop the mindless rage against Grey.
I think it would. It would give the people who leave pointless negative comments a opportunity the realize that even if they don't like every aspect of the mod it is still better than nothing.
Also take as long as you want the longer it takes the better it will be!
Putting aside grammer issues, excessive size, and needless coloring. If this was entirely their concept of entirely their own ideas and models and other features, then yes, you'd be entirely correct, however when you're talking about an idea that has been pounded out by a completely separate group of people for close to 100 pages before this mod was even announced, and this mod is claiming to be based on that suggestion, then those "rights" are not so absolute, or at the very least they do not extend so far as to be immune to criticism from those who disagree with the changes they make.
So kindly STFU and let the adults discuss the important issues. You can cheer for whichever side you want, but you damn well don't try to make it out that I don't have a right to voice my opinions.
PLEASE ALSO SUPPORT:
Sabata & Grey Acumen's "New Nether"
Grey Acumen's Minecraft 2.0 Suggestion Series
this mod deservez 3059% of the minecraft population not only 90% for it 8% against it and 2% not knowing anything about it but again this mod deservez 3059% of the minecraft population!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Much
Yours in anticipation,
The New Guy
the recepie would be like this mabey
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or this
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where
yep i agree too :smile.gif:
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GreyAcumen is just giving some advice and things that he'd like implemented. It isn't something to get you apeshit crazy over...
Hypocrite much? lol
So STFU is incorrect grammar?
o.O
I agree with some of this, but not the first bit.
Also,
Thank you. You are a much-needed voice of reason.
I guess I should be more clear; this mod has no less theme and logic than Minecraft does. In fact, it has a specific theme. I won't get pedantic about it, but "I'm not going to support a thread like this that has no logic or theme to it" wasn't a great reason.
Never thought i'd see you here :biggrin.gif: