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Did something break Lush decorations?

rivers {
    # Set this to FALSE to prevent RTG from generating lush river bank decorations in hot biomes, like Desert and Mesa.
    # Lush decorations consist of tallgrass, trees, shrubs, and other flora.
    #  [default: true]
    B:"Enable Lush River Bank Decorations in Hot Biomes"=true

    # Set this to FALSE to prevent RTG from generating lush river bank surfaces in hot biomes, like Desert and Mesa.
    # Lush surfaces consist (almost exclusively) of grass blocks.
    #  [default: true]
    B:"Enable Lush River Bank Surfaces in Hot Biomes"=true
}

Ok, we need a mod that provides mountain goats :-)

Ok, I think this is a strange hot/cold transition.

Basically, with mountain chains, extreme hills is used for the mountains. Fine. But you are not raising the "snow level" to account for the "warm" zone -- so you get permafrost next to deserts and mesas.

I'm not really sure what else can be used for mountains in the warm zone. I don't know if you can adjust the snow level, or if vanilla is somehow assuming what it thinks is the temperature noise map is accurate for something (snowfall perhaps?)

I think that there is a problem with the mesa hills.

Notice that the tall hills are almost all tree/grass/sand topped, and the solid clay hills are almost non-existent.

In fact: Is this intended?

It looks like something got too narrow in structuregen ...

Quote from Keybounce»

Ok, I think this is a strange hot/cold transition.

Basically, with mountain chains, extreme hills is used for the mountains. Fine. But you are not raising the "snow level" to account for the "warm" zone -- so you get permafrost next to deserts and mesas.

This is a vanilla problem. Extreme Hills are in both Cool and Warm, and routinely end up next to Deserts at Hot/Warm transitions. CC doesn't meaningfully alter the rate with which it happens. Mountains Chains probably increase it a little, but not much.

As to the jumbled ridge in Mesa:

And here I was, thinking that E.H. was normally a cool biome only, not a warm one, because of the snow caps.

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Ice Mountains are absolutely lovely with the maintain chains.

Here is a small village, with a few Sherpas waiting to help explorers

A single, lone tree manages to make a home at the top of one peak

And, your roofed forests are dense enough that the canopy can be used as a highway (many many blocks high :=). I was able to cross a large roofed forest entirely above ground, without doing any damage to the trees (I did not have to make a staircase by damaging leaves). Coming from someone that cannot do a decent parkour map (I cannot manage the sprint-jump at all), that says something.

That's quite a bit different from the vanilla version, where there are only a few dark spots :-). I would not want to go through the underbrush unless I was dropping a fair amount of lava behind me (and then picking it up -- don't litter :-) as I went.

RTG+BoP+CC/GC will work right out of the box. If you want a continental world rather than an ocean one you should set SeparateLandmasses = false in the CC/GC configs. The default CC/GC configs produce an oceanic world that's about 40% land, which is a lot more land than MC had back in 1.6, but a lot less than it's had since 1.7.

Yeah, you can't expect perfect logic from something like the MC biome system. But Extreme Hills have a ludicrously low snow level for something that is considered by the placement rules to be a perfectly acceptable neighbor to Jungle and Desert (which is a hot desert, not something Gobi-ish). If it were a Cool-zone mountain and there were a Warm-zone mountain (BoP Mountain Peaks, for example) it would be fine - but they didn't do that. We are considering raising the snow level for Extreme Hills in a near future release. In testing it works pretty well and essentially eliminates nonsense like snow on tropical trees.

Quote from soccerguy3»

If you want to test this RTG 1.11.2 alfa http://sdrv.ms/TPcx5v

Please stop distributing RTG alpha binaries. When we have something ready for release, we will release it.

The last thing we need is to be inundated with people reporting issues on something that isn't ready to be released, nor do we want to have the reputation of RTG harmed by code that we know doesn't work, or that could potentially ruin people's worlds.

Quote from WhichOnesPink»

• Fixed unconverted ocean on high beaches - RTG now converts above-land Ocean to Beach if there's a beach but no land available.

Which commit had this one? And will it apply cleanly to the 1.7.10 branch?

I looked over the last few days (since I reported that elevated ocean with bare rocks) and did not see anything.

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Seeing those seasonal changes -- and winter desert snow -- makes me think that (1), Minecraft needs a season mod like Reasonable Realism/Harder Wildlife (and it doesn't adjust deserts enough), (2), the "static" landscape of Minecraft doesn't really match the dynamic landscape of real life (at best it is attempting to show the normal "common thinking" -- such as snowpacked sierras (no snow at all?), or solid-ice-shelf cold oceans (wait, do they still generate frozen ocean anymore?), or hot dry daytime deserts (real dry deserts get cold at night).

Hmm, there is a completely frozen mountain (well, it's hills in vanilla), a snow-at-the-top mountain, and that strange "savanna mountains" that can go up to build limit with no consistent land. At least things get taller as they get warmer?

BoPBiomesOn affects BoP in existing worlds. If it's on Geographicraft will add BoP to existing worlds. BoPInNewDimensions affects it in new worlds. I set up the configuration because most of the time I want my existing worlds to stay as is.

Try swapping the IDs for Shrubland and Temperate Rainforest in the BoPinCC config.

Inside the worldspecificconfig folder in the save file, inside the ClimateControl or Geographicraft folder, there's a biomesoplentyInCC.cfg file. Check the biome IDs. Is this 1.7.10 or 1.10.2?

Have you changed any IDs? Changing BoP IDs causes trouble sometimes.

Quote from Robijnvogel»

As long as those height options are biome-specific, they probably shouldn't influence RTG's generator (unless BT actually determines the placement of biomes depending on their height settings).

Basically, yes, except maybe that height gets used for a fallback to determine whether something gets a sand or stone beach. I think all biomes have defaults for that now so even that should never come up. It definitely does not influence the terrain generation per se at all.