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Thaumcraft's progression isn't the same as Witchery though. It all hinges on research. Witchery makes you actually build increasing tiers of equipment, unlocking progression through access to blocks, brews, and advanced materials.

With Thaumcraft, the primary method of metering progress is via Thauminomicon research, with some progression at higher levels using access to vis in your wand or scepter, and access to amounts of essentia and certain advanced crafted blocks and multiblocks.

Starting out in Horizons is therefore simply a matter of doing the research under the Horizons tab. Some projects need supplementary research from the Thaumcraft core research tabs as well, but if you keep scanning things and keep a healthy supply of research aspects, that's all you need for most unlocks.

Actually crafting the stuff is a bit more complicated, of course, but the Thauminomicon entries give all the information you need for that process.

ANOTHER crash to report. This time when I tried inserting a Jarred Primal Orb into the Vat:

Quote from SalmonMax»

Thaumcraft's progression isn't the same as Witchery though. It all hinges on research. Witchery makes you actually build increasing tiers of equipment, unlocking progression through access to blocks, brews, and advanced materials.

With Thaumcraft, the primary method of metering progress is via Thauminomicon research, with some progression at higher levels using access to vis in your wand or scepter, and access to amounts of essentia and certain advanced crafted blocks and multiblocks.

Starting out in Horizons is therefore simply a matter of doing the research under the Horizons tab. Some projects need supplementary research from the Thaumcraft core research tabs as well, but if you keep scanning things and keep a healthy supply of research aspects, that's all you need for most unlocks.

Actually crafting the stuff is a bit more complicated, of course, but the Thauminomicon entries give all the information you need for that process.

I just wanted to know why I can't research the vat and the little syringe. I remember someone saying I had to complete the automated alchemy research first, but I did and i'm still blocked off.

Ah! Yeah, that one's tricky! I'm actually not 100% sure what unlocks it. I tend to do my research in large-ish batches, and all I know is that somewhere in the alchemy tab is the necessary research. It may be more than one though. For example, you may need diverse things like Automated Alchemy and the crystallizer, or one or more of the alchemical transmutation researches.

Sorry I can't be of more help on that one!

The Alchemy tab doesn't have too too much stuff on it though. Just research it all and let the Eldritch Guardian sort it out, I say.

Quote from Minipete»

ANOTHER crash to report. This time when I tried inserting a Jarred Primal Orb into the Vat:

---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// Surprise! Haha. Well, this is awkward.

Time: 6/24/15 2:58 PM
Description: Unexpected error

java.lang.ClassCastException: thaumcraft.common.entities.projectile.EntityPrimalOrb cannot be cast to net.minecraft.entity.EntityLivingBase
at com.kentington.thaumichorizons.common.tiles.TileVat.activate(TileVat.java:146)
at com.kentington.thaumichorizons.common.tiles.TileVatSlave.activate(TileVatSlave.java:22)
at com.kentington.thaumichorizons.common.blocks.BlockVat.func_149727_a(BlockVat.java:75)
at net.minecraft.client.multiplayer.PlayerControllerMP.func_78760_a(PlayerControllerMP.java:326)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_147121_ag(Minecraft.java:1435)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71407_l(Minecraft.java:1941)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71411_J(Minecraft.java:961
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:887)L
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:148)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:483)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:135)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)


A detailed walkthrough of the error, its code path and all known details is as follows:
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-- Head --
Stacktrace:
at com.kentington.thaumichorizons.common.tiles.TileVat.activate(TileVat.java:146)
at com.kentington.thaumichorizons.common.tiles.TileVatSlave.activate(TileVatSlave.java:22)
at com.kentington.thaumichorizons.common.blocks.BlockVat.func_149727_a(BlockVat.java:75)
at net.minecraft.client.multiplayer.PlayerControllerMP.func_78760_a(PlayerControllerMP.java:326)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_147121_ag(Minecraft.java:1435)

-- Affected level --
Details:
Level name: MpServer
All players: 1 total; [EntityClientPlayerMP['Minipete'/535, l='MpServer', x=-164.18, y=75.62, z=199.21]]
Chunk stats: MultiplayerChunkCache: 40, 40
Level seed: 0
Level generator: ID 00 - default, ver 1. Features enabled: false
Level generator options:
Level spawn location: World: (-164,64,204), Chunk: (at 12,4,12 in -11,12; contains blocks -176,0,192 to -161,255,207), Region: (-1,0; contains chunks -32,0 to -1,31, blocks -512,0,0 to -1,255,511)
Level time: 840079 game time, 840079 day time
Level dimension: 0
Level storage version: 0x00000 - Unknown?
Level weather: Rain time: 0 (now: false), thunder time: 0 (now: false)
Level game mode: Game mode: creative (ID 1). Hardcore: false. Cheats: false
Forced entities: 18 total; [EntityCow['Cow'/323, l='MpServer', x=-128.78, y=63.00, z=144.34], EntitySheep['Sheep'/325, l='MpServer', x=-113.88, y=79.00, z=220.94], EntitySkeleton['Skeleton'/3344, l='MpServer', x=-177.50, y=26.00, z=188.88], EntityZombie['Zombie'/3026, l='MpServer', x=-191.50, y=81.00, z=230.50], EntityEldritchGuardian['Eldritch Guardian'/279, l='MpServer', x=-159.76, y=69.00, z=189.50], EntitySpider['Spider'/3927, l='MpServer', x=-106.97, y=22.82, z=201.72], EntitySkeleton['Skeleton'/3544, l='MpServer', x=-138.56, y=11.00, z=168.09], EntitySpider['Spider'/3928, l='MpServer', x=-105.81, y=23.82, z=198.09], EntitySkeleton['Skeleton'/4891, l='MpServer', x=-161.50, y=26.00, z=161.50], EntityChicken['Chicken'/351, l='MpServer', x=-97.47, y=69.18, z=156.44], EntityChicken['Chicken'/353, l='MpServer', x=-101.56, y=63.18, z=161.53], EntityChicken['Chicken'/355, l='MpServer', x=-96.53, y=66.18, z=177.44], EntityCartChest['entity.MinecartChest.name'/293, l='MpServer', x=-149.50, y=23.34, z=224.91], EntityClientPlayerMP['Minipete'/535, l='MpServer', x=-164.18, y=75.62, z=199.21], EntityZombie['Zombie'/3623, l='MpServer', x=-137.50, y=24.00, z=160.50], EntityWitch['Witch'/3562, l='MpServer', x=-185.50, y=26.00, z=238.50], EntitySkeleton['Skeleton'/3374, l='MpServer', x=-133.50, y=24.00, z=205.50], EntityCreeper['Creeper'/3376, l='MpServer', x=-133.50, y=24.00, z=209.50]]
Retry entities: 0 total; []
Server brand: fml,forge
Server type: Integrated singleplayer server
Stacktrace:
at net.minecraft.client.multiplayer.WorldClient.func_72914_a(WorldClient.java:373)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71396_d(Minecraft.java:2432)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:916)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:148)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:483)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:135)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)

-- System Details --
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Looks like it tried to stick the Primal Orb, an entity probably not meant to be jarred, to the curative vat, and it failed. Judging by the strange entities that can be jarred, maybe it would be better if it didn't blacklist specific entities, but instead whitelist mobs that should be.

(Also, you probably don't care, but I'm pretty sure you were standing over a abandoned mineshaft. Correlation MUST imply causation, riiiiight? XD)

Quote from tootootootootoo»

Looks like it tried to stick the Primal Orb, an entity probably not meant to be jarred, to the curative vat, and it failed. Judging by the strange entities that can be jarred, maybe it would be better if it didn't blacklist specific entities, but instead whitelist mobs that should be.

(Also, you probably don't care, but I'm pretty sure you were standing over a abandoned mineshaft. Correlation MUST imply causation, riiiiight? XD)

It's not meant to be jarred. In fact, I bet it can't be jarred. I created it via NBTExplorer witchcraft, overwriting a jarred Eldritch Guardian.

Ahhhhh, that makes much more sense. Now that I learned that, time to stick an Enderdragon in a Jar...

Quote from DMCareGaming»

I just wanted to know why I can't research the vat and the little syringe. I remember someone saying I had to complete the automated alchemy research first, but I did and i'm still blocked off.

I got stuck on this too, but finally got the answer.

Quote from Hman745»

I got stuck on this too, but finally got the answer.

The research for Blood Alchemy (which is the syringe in the book) is Infusion and Automated Alchemy.

Infusion?

ok, last thing, how do you get the things like quicksilver limbs and instilled loyalty? It's not found in dungeons is it, because my luck is horrible in that department.

Quote from DMCareGaming»

ok, last thing, how do you get the things like quicksilver limbs and instilled loyalty? It's not found in dungeons is it, because my luck is horrible in that department.

Um, you research them?

Quote from DMCareGaming»

ok, last thing, how do you get the things like quicksilver limbs and instilled loyalty? It's not found in dungeons is it, because my luck is horrible in that department.

You get the research then perform the infusion, they are only available as items in creative mode.

Quote from DMCareGaming»

Infusion?

Yes, this is a research found under the Artifice tab.

Quote from DMCareGaming»

ok, last thing, how do you get the things like quicksilver limbs and instilled loyalty? It's not found in dungeons is it, because my luck is horrible in that department.

What you found are creative specific items that are meant to be easy ways to perform infusions on creatures without the need to setup a vat and anything else that may be necessary for an infusion. You cannot find or create those items in survival.

Quote from TheKentington»

Quick update: After a month of digging, I've finally crawled out from the pile of work my job dumped on me. Now the push for 1.2 can resume in earnest. I should have a nice teaser ready by the end of June - planar weather, toothy ravines, a few new critters, and more surprises await!

WOOOOO! I can't wait! Thanks for so much awesome stuff TheKentington!

Quote from TheKentington»

(One of those surprises is a config file. Spoiler alert.)

DOUBLE AWESOME!

(Jeez, I compulsively check this thread way too much. Does anyone think a refresh every three minutes is excessive?)

well how do I perform said infusions then? I have two reasons:

1: I wanna clone a wolf into a magebeast.

2: I have grimore of Gaia in and, being a huge MGE fan, want to have at least one of these monstergirls be friendly to me.

Quote from DMCareGaming»

well how do I perform said infusions then? I have two reasons:

1: I wanna clone a wolf into a magebeast.

2: I have grimore of Gaia in and, being a huge MGE fan, want to have at least one of these monstergirls be friendly to me.

Do you have experience with Thaumcraft? If you do, you should understand what the Thauminomicon is, all the relevant information is in that.

ignore this sorry

I have two questions regarding Pocket Plane generation:

1. Say I have two Vortexes, one with 99 Aqua and 1 Ignis, and the other with 1 Aqua and 99 Ignis. Now, one would certainly not expect those two Planes to look similar. Will the amount of an aspect out of the whole affect how much it effects the terrain generation?

2. Will generation take into account specific mixings of aspects? For example, if I have a Vortex with Lucrum and Metallum, one would expect a large amount of Gold Ore, while with a Vortex with Lucrum and Vitreus, there should be more Emeralds or Diamonds. Also, Ignis, Terra, and Vitreus should have some Nether Quartz, for example, while Ignis and Terra alone should not. I realise it would probably be hard, but I hope these things are present, even if it is just for the common combinations.