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#223 Oct 5, 2014
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Any help for this crash? Thanks in advance.

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#224 Oct 5, 2014
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Your crash is related to Forge Microblocks, not Tinker's Construct. Unfortunately, that crash report cuts off, so I can't see exactly what's causing it. I will say that trying to run close to 200 mods with only 256mb of permgen space is going to cause you problems sooner or later.

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#225 Oct 5, 2014
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Thanks for the response. I've upped the permagen & posted the full crash-log. I'm sure its microblocks, just not too sure how should i go about remove it. If you could point me in the right direction, i would appreciate it.

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Quote from boni »
The console spam is not caused by Tinkers. Some of your other mods outputs it.

Looks like somebody left some debug code in it.. and is even using stdout for it instead of logging.

Problem is that even with only the tinkers family of mods the spam persists, and what is mentioned in the spam varies by what you are close to but always includes references to mechworks

Line after line of this:
Transforming tconstruct.mechworks.(this part ofter the last period changes to different classes, but this happens a LOT and with multiple mods, so I do not believe it is there fault.

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#228 Oct 5, 2014
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No, i haven't updated it manually, that's the reason why i posted my crashlog here. The only mod that i have updated was TC.

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Ha, thats fine. Thanks for the help anyways.

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#231 Oct 5, 2014
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Quote from GreatOrator »

Problem is that even with only the tinkers family of mods the spam persists, and what is mentioned in the spam varies by what you are close to but always includes references to mechworks

Line after line of this:
Transforming tconstruct.mechworks.(this part ofter the last period changes to different classes, but this happens a LOT and with multiple mods, so I do not believe it is there fault.

That's interesting then. Define "tinkers family of mods". Try only tinkers + mantle, it shouldn't happen with only those two.

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Quote from boni »

That's interesting then. Define "tinkers family of mods". Try only tinkers + mantle, it shouldn't happen with only those two.

The family of mods as they had been were tinkers, mantle and mechworks (though I understand you are not handling that one, but noone knows who is at the moment).

The even more interesting issue is that error shows up in logs even with mechworks disabled (had to because the drawbridges were causing crash errors still)

If you want I can go grab a log from today as I can replicate it easily.

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#233 Oct 5, 2014
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boni: any plans on fix texture items on the HQM quests or is a HQM problem? i dont see any update from HQM mod long time ago and cant continue with BevoPack questline and update to you versions on my modpack (FTB - Alone in the Dark).

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#234 Oct 5, 2014
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Quote from GreatOrator »

The family of mods as they had been were tinkers, mantle and mechworks (though I understand you are not handling that one, but noone knows who is at the moment).

The even more interesting issue is that error shows up in logs even with mechworks disabled (had to because the drawbridges were causing crash errors still)

If you want I can go grab a log from today as I can replicate it easily.

The question here is what are you guys doing that the rest of us aren't? Because there has to be something in common to those having the issues as it is not happening to everyone who is running the tinkers.

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#235 Oct 5, 2014
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False alarm, my mistake. FMP 307 is the last one before FMP switched to Forge 1217.

The latest Multipart 310 works just fine with Forge 1208. In fact all of the latest versions of Chickenbones mods for 1.7.10 work just fine with Forge 1208.

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#237 Oct 6, 2014
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FMP 308 was built on Forge 1217. Which caused a bit of trouble, since when the first version of WR-CBE came out it was built on Forge 1208, but set to depend on FMP 308.

and.... Then Chickenbones went back and made sure the latest and greatest were compatible with both Forge 1208 and 1217. So as long as anyone has the latest versions of Chickenbones mods they should have no problem staying on 1208 for compatibility with other mods. Although I have yet to have any problems using well over 150 mods in my personal compilation running on Forge 1217.

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#239 Oct 6, 2014
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#240 Oct 6, 2014
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With the recent update disabling the ability to hold shift for a more controlled method of mining with teir 2 tools, I would like to personally express distaste with this, and perhaps ask if it could be made a config option to enable that behavior once again? It was nice not to have to carry a barely used pick just to mine the scant single block every now and then just to jump out of a ditch.

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#241 Oct 6, 2014
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Quote from Yowesephth »
With the recent update disabling the ability to hold shift for a more controlled method of mining with teir 2 tools, I would like to personally express distaste with this, and perhaps ask if it could be made a config option to enable that behavior once again? It was nice not to have to carry a barely used pick just to mine the scant single block every now and then just to jump out of a ditch.

Its only for the lumber axe now iirc.
so no precise mining with hammer. (that would make pickaxes useless)

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#243 Oct 6, 2014
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So why the sneaking change? I thought it was always meant to be for both hammer and axe? and all the tier 2 tools actually.

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Well I have quickly decided that the removal of sneak click for tier 2 tools IS A ****ING PAIN IN THE ASS. Reminds me why mdiyo made the tools that way in the first place, you know because it made sense.

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Hi boni!

I was wondering if you could make a backport to 1.7.2?

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Hi boni!

I was wondering if you could make a backport to 1.7.2?

Pretty sure that's not going to happen, since mDiyo was adamantly against modding for that version in the first place. But hey, it's up to Boni (though I would highly recommend moving on... 1.7.2 was a disaster from my experience, with so many bugs it makes the Erebus look like a mansion's kitchen comparatively).

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Quote from mrbysco »

Its only for the lumber axe now iirc.
so no precise mining with hammer. (that would make pickaxes useless)

I can see why one might think that is a bad thing, but considering the material differences, it's not like hammers and picks really need to be on par with one another. If I am spending a maximum of 27 of a material to make a hammer, why is it so important that something that costs 2 material remain in use? Simply because it's a different tool type with the same basic use?

And like I said in my post, by the time I have a hammer, the only thing a pick gets used for is mining 1 block every couple of hours to get me out of a hole, so it's already 99% useless, taking up a slot in my inventory except for the scant moment I need it.

But that is also why I asked if it could be a config as opposed to a reversion, because I can still understand folk finding that to be a balance point and not wanting that for their game or server, but it would still be nice for it to be a choice for the rest of us. After having gotten a small taste of it in the previous update, I think it's a nice option is all.

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