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I think I'm going to have to wait for an installer... I absolutely despise the new modding system... why can't it just be drag and drop files without renaming things D:

Quote from thezuma

oh any forge version?

Yep, in the downloads. (Proper install instructions TBD.)

Quote from ciabatta1

Yay, I'm a bit helpful ^^

And that's simply how I roll... especially when we have two Gulliver servers, where one can be the reliable "Stable" branch, and the other our "Bleeding Edge" nightly snapshot-style release. The sooner things get done, the happier players will be, the less whining I will receive, and the better feedback we can convey to you. Win-win for all!

And unfortunately that's where my usefulness ends... I tried to be cute to guess-install the Forge version, but it gave me quite the scolding for adding base-class edits, even after entering that JVM thingy it suggested. At least now I know their philosophy behind base class edits... in fairness, it makes a little sense. I will have no choice but to wait for Tarig's installer in that regard... but thankfully, there's no rush as I tried the Forge version ONLY for curiosity's sake. [For SCIENCE!]

Okay, thanks again for a successful release! I look forward to adding more feedback later.
Good night.

Bleeding Edge and Stable. Cool
Yeah, the Forge JVM option just keeps it from halting if a base class file is changed, but it still complains - LOUDLY - about each and every class file that's different. No JVM option to make it shut up, unfortunately.

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Alright, I'm back to posting, but this time it isn't a suggestion. It's more or less a bug report. I've been able to get my Modloader and Gulliver's mods to work fine, but there's a small problem. There's no sound. I've tried the Modloader patch that was suggested by Cia when I asked her about it, but no luck on getting my hearing back. I've opened 1.6.2 on the new launcher and had perfect sounds, but when I try modding anything it just breaks. I use MagicLauncher, as I've pretty much given up how 1.6+ mods work, but if you can teach me how to fix it, I'd gladly switch. Don't expect a reply until later today, I've got school, but I will check on this later

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Note, I sent something to flamm to try out first to see if that resolves the issue. Have my suspicions that magic loader is at fault here.... or at least the issue modding in vanilla minecraft with the new launcher. ^^

Yeah. The main problem with Magic Launcher, ModLoader and the new launcher: even though it used to work fine with Magic Launcher before, with 1.6.2 ModLoader doesn't seem to find mods in separate jar/zip files, which make Magic Launcher a lot less useful So far, the only definite way to install jar mods with ModLoader 1.6.2 is to pop them all into the same jar under its own folder under versions, and make a new launcher profile that uses it. (I'm sad about that too; Magic Launcher was very useful for testing mod installations in MC 1.5.2 and before.)

Quote from Tarig

Bit of a bug report for you UM.

I get a crash report if I attempt to change the gamedirectory in the 1.6 launcher after I install gulliver, have you had any luck with this?

i'll attach the log if you need it

oo side note i'll be testing optifine and shaders shortly *gulp*

Hm, I've been able to use it with different game directories. What crash do you get?
And I tested with Optifine but not Shaders, so let me know if that works. For Forged, use Optifine as a library, not in the mods folder.

Quote from Michael_____Bauer

ummmmm you realize that we are in 1.6.4 not 1.6.2 and the forge version doesn't work it says like there was a problem with forge I mean this update is useless and easier instructions on how to download it for forge will be useful.

Indeed! That's why I decided that, while the mod code's been updated to 1.6 but I still don't have good install instructions worked out, it would be better to release for 1.6.2 instead of 1.6.4 so that fewer people would be downloading and whining about how it doesn't work. Seems to have done the trick, at least for the most part


By the way, folks, I'm getting ready to go out of town for a week (to warm sunny Florida! Right now it's 7F where I am, so I'm really looking forward to that.) I'll still have internet access and plan to do some work and mod stuff in more comfortable surroundings, but I'll be pretty much absent while traveling.

Aww, that sounds great, I hope you enjoy the well-earned vacation. ^^

Much of the feedback above represents what over half of my server still tells me, even to this day. I am actually tempted to (and probably will) make my own kewt installation guide to help, at least so everyone is on the same page. From my POV, the update is flawless, but I had to use some wizardry and sorcery to get to that point . ^__^;

I'm having the "no sound" issue, even if I'm using only modloader and Gulliver, and when I say I mean only, I'm not using any other mod.
I really love this mod so I hope you can help me fix this problem.
Thanks for the consideration!

Thank you SO Much for Updating to 1.6.2!
Me and my friends were anxiously awaiting the Return of Gulliver's Mod.

I was just wondering about a possible future-feature:

Would it be possible to have a field in the config allowing to change the Jump Heights and Movement speeds for Different Heights?
Currently (and realistically) a player with a size of 0.125 can jump 0.5 of a Block. Would it be possible to make this ratio configurable? And if possible, the same with Movement speed?

If this isn't possible, Thanks Anyway! This mod is still one of my all-time Favourites!

So do you possibly think it will work with 1.6.4 I don't understand or is it just for 1.6.2? O_o

Can we get some up to date installation instructions on the mod page?

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Can we get some up to date installation instructions on the mod page?

Second that, I was hoping to get a Forge server going but I can't get it to work.

Alrighty. If you've already got the non-Forge version installed for MC 1.6.2, here's what you do:

1. Open a Creative world.
2. Spawn a Horse. Tame it by riding it repeatedly until it loves you. Then repeat so you have 2 tame Horses.
3. Make yourself Huge (4x size).
4. Pick up one of the Horses with a right-click while empty-handed, then right-click on the other Horse to set it on top of it.
5. Right-click the bottom Horse so that you pick up the stack of 2 Horses.
6. Now... very very carefully... Hold Your Horses.

I'll post some updated instructions (and maybe even an installer for Gulliver Forged!) after I'm done packing

What is it that makes installing the forge version so difficult? I was able to get it to work on the client with MCPatcher, but no clue on how to get it working for a forge server.

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What is it that makes installing the forge version so difficult? I was able to get it to work on the client with MCPatcher, but no clue on how to get it working for a forge server.

Ah, the Forge server. Try this:
Run the Forge 871 installer to install the server. You'll end up with a minecraftforge-universal-1.6.2-9.10.1.871.jar in the server folder that you specify to install in. Run that once with

java -jar minecraftforge-universal-1.6.2-9.10.1.871.jar

so that it creates all the server files and stuff. Now, make a copy of that jar file (call it minecraftforge-universal-1.6.2-9.10.1.871-gulliverforged-0.14.1.jar), and add all the files from the gulliver forged zip file "gulliver-forged-871-universal-0.14.1-MC1.6.2.zip" into it using 7zip or WinRaR. (Yes, the Forge jar file, not the minecraft_server.1.6.2.jar file.) Now, when you run the server, use this command line:

java -Dfml.ignorePatchDiscrepancies=true -jar minecraftforge-universal-1.6.2-9.10.1.871-gulliverforged-0.14.1.jar

Remember that "-Dfml.ignorePatchDiscrepancies=true" part! Otherwise Forge won't let the server run at all.

Let me know if that works, so I can use those as Forged server install instructions.

There we go, works nicely! Server works with Little Blocks as well.

I suppose I should have noticed that in the java arguments that MCPatcher put in.

Um sorry to ask again but, does this completly work with 1.6.4 forge or just 1.6.2 only?

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Ah, the Forge server. Try this:
Run the Forge 871 installer to install the server. You'll end up with a minecraftforge-universal-1.6.2-9.10.1.871.jar in the server folder that you specify to install in. Run that once with

java -jar minecraftforge-universal-1.6.2-9.10.1.871.jar

so that it creates all the server files and stuff. Now, make a copy of that jar file (call it minecraftforge-universal-1.6.2-9.10.1.871-gulliverforged-0.14.1.jar), and add all the files from the gulliver forged zip file into it using 7zip or WinRaR. (Yes, the Forge jar file, not the minecraft_server.1.6.2.jar file.) Now, when you run the server, use this command line:

java -Dfml.ignorePatchDiscrepancies=true -jar minecraftforge-universal-1.6.2-9.10.1.871-gulliverforged-0.14.1.jar

Remember that "-Dfml.ignorePatchDiscrepancies=true" part! Otherwise Forge won't let the server run at all.

Let me know if that works, so I can use those as Forged server install instructions.

Aha! So THAT'S where that silly filly Forge installs itself to. ^^
Thanks to your clues, I extrapolated how to set up the forge client without using a fancy schmancy tool like MCPatcher or stuff like that. It is indeed tricky, but perfectly doable -- and I will write up a walkthrough for it to hold us over until the proper installer is ready.

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TIll the walkthrough itself is ready, here's the takeaway:

1) Download that version of the forge installer
2) Run the forge installer for the client
3) Dig into minecraft/libraries/net/minecraftforge/minecraftforge/9.10.1.871
4) Open the JAR file inside that folder (minecraftforge-9.10.1.871.jar), and dump you Gulliver Forge files in there
5) In the Minecraft Launcher, set your profile to point to 1.6.2-Forge9.10.1.871
6) In the JVM arguments field below, add in "-Dfml.ignorePatchDiscrepancies=true"
7) Hit Play and enjoy

Now if only the 1.6.2 version of Little Blocks had torches that emit light. Oh well, will just have to wait for Gulliver 1.6.4

Why update it to 1.6.2 when you can update it to 1.6.4?

Hello Mion, and assorted visitors to this thread.

I wrote two manual installation guides covering the installation of the latest Gulliver for both the Modloader and Forge versions. These were written for the players on our Sister Server, but I'm sure it can help some of you as well, and surely can be adapted to some other documentation purposes if necessary.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/p5hkts3nrwcwnr3/Gulliver162Installation_Modloader.pdf

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m6ihllx7kebf39b/Gulliver162Installation_Forge.pdf


Feedback is always appreciated, of course. Thank you.

Quote from ciabatta1

Hello Mion, and assorted visitors to this thread.

I wrote two manual installation guides covering the installation of the latest Gulliver for both the Modloader and Forge versions. These were written for the players on our Sister Server, but I'm sure it can help some of you as well, and surely can be adapted to some other documentation purposes if necessary.

https://www.dropbox....n_Modloader.pdf

https://www.dropbox....ation_Forge.pdf


Feedback is always appreciated, of course. Thank you.

Cia, you're the best. I did the forge instalation that you made, and right now, the sounds are finally returning I don't know if I could have done it without you!

i figured out how to install gulliver forged 1.6.2 unclemion
installation:
step 1 download gullliver mod and put it in your clean 1.6.2.jar
step 2 download and install minecraft forge(modloader may work to i just tested with forge)
step 3 enable jvm arguments(while the forge profile is selected click edit profile)
step 4 copy and paste this text into your jvm arguments: -Dfml.ignoreInvalidMinecraftCertificates=true
-Dfml.ignorePatchDiscrepancies=true
step 5 launch and enjoy
ps. can you work on 1.6.4

Quote from thezuma

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! I LOVE YOU SO MUCH :`)
P.s is it normal that im running so fast?

haha, glad my guides ended up being useful for people outside our server. That's great news!

Quote from RoopeLolOmg

Thank you! But I still have one problem; There's no sound. Nevermind, I just had my headphones on!

lol... I'll take issues like that any day.
oh, and glad the installation guides were helpful. ^^

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Cia, you're the best. I did the forge instalation that you made, and right now, the sounds are finally returning I don't know if I could have done it without you!

Aww, thanks Flamm! You know I always look out for my peeps [I just need a little time is all].
I will be using the forge version as well, mainly because I want to try out other things like NEI and such. Eventually we will make a decision on whether to switch the whole server to forge, and take advantage of new modding opportunities. ^^

[not LittleBlocks, though, bleh] XD

Quote from BurntValentine

Soooooo...... Me and my friends use the Technic Launcher's custom modpacks functions to run our little server, as it's easier than all of us installing everything manually.... how would I update on there? xD I can't think of a way to enter the "-Dfml.ignorePatchDiscrepancies=true" part :L

IANAE, but if you MUST use the Technic tool, perhaps that's a question you can ask the Tekkit people. They should know of a means to attach some custom JVM arguments.

If so, please report your findings here so we'll know how to answer that in the future. ^^

Quote from tcboy10playsminecraft

i figured out how to install gulliver forged 1.6.2 unclemion installation: step 1 download gullliver mod and put it in your clean 1.6.2.jar step 2 download and install minecraft forge(modloader may work to i just tested with forge) step 3 enable jvm arguments(while the forge profile is selected click edit profile) step 4 copy and paste this text into your jvm arguments: -Dfml.ignoreInvalidMinecraftCertificates=true -Dfml.ignorePatchDiscrepancies=true step 5 launch and enjoy ps. can you work on 1.6.4

Ah okay, at least I know it's possible to do a really really forced base install. XD
Based on Mion's guidelines, though, the approach used in my guide will install Gulliver without messing with the Minecraft base classes (and thus, breaking the Mojang terms and such, or so they say). Since this is technically the "kosher" way of doing it (per the Forge people), I highly recommend you give it a try. [you also need only one JVM argument if using that approach] ^^