It's terribly Over Powered to have 3x9 EnderChests,
There's a simple solution to this: allow a 3x9 enderchest to be crafted for 3 times the cost of a 3x3 one, or maybe a little more. After all, there's nothing to stop the player from making three 3x3 chests for the same cost.
I don't see the total amount of storage per player to be much of an issue. It's already big enough that for practical purposes it's not going to be a limitation on anyone, so who cares if it becomes 3 times bigger? This is mainly about the convenience of having a reasonable amount of storage accessible through one container, so just set the price accordingly.
EnderStorage has 1 goal. Item transport. This is acheived in two ways, either through use of buildcraft/redpower for moving items long distances and between dimensions. Or for accessing your items from anywhere with the help of EnderPouches. If you combine the two, you can even set yourself up with 2 pouches, one that's stocked full of food and another that takes all your items and puts them in a large chest storage network, great for staying out mining without worrying about full inventories.
It's terribly Over Powered to have 3x9 EnderChests, especially with the new per player chests. You get 36864 slots per player with my EnderChests. Your math is a bit out if you think that vanilla ender chests, which provide you with 27 slots per player, albiet in one chest is somehow better.
Because I'm not using RedPower/BuildCraft. (And I will get RedPower for 1.4.x when it releases but only for wiring and logic). So right now If I want the same storage in an ender chest... I can use up one inventory slot to carry a vanilla enderchest, and have one sitting at my base... or I can install your mod and have to carry 3 separate ender pouches (connected to 3 separate ender chests) to get the same storage. Couple that with the fact that your ender chests allow for any player to access them with the right colour coded chest/pouch meaning they can be used ad a shared inventory by players across the map... that made 27 slots great. Now I have 9... which serves me no purpose and even less so when me and my friends will start putting items in and the chest fills up.
You can say I get 36864 slots per player... but lets be honest I dont think many people will get that high. And even if some do, those are at best outliers.
So now I cant understand how its over powered to have 27 slots... you obviously didnt think so at the beginning... because all the screen shots, and the mod spotlight I watched (and based my download on) show 27 slots.
You could have given people the choice between an 3x3 or 3x9 version... (and in a way... I suppose you have, just not the preferred one in my case). I like the ability to colour code the chests, I think its great that they can be accessed by everyone unless you use a diamond on the lock. But nerfing them to 3x3 makes them useless for storage. Which considering that Storage is in the name of the mod is pretty sad.
i installed NEI and when I press the "E" key it says "shutting down internal servers" and then crashes. I tried unloading the mods that i use except for NEI and it still does it.
---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
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java.lang.IllegalAccessError: tried to access field asw.e from class codechicken.nei.forge.GuiContainerManager
at codechicken.nei.forge.GuiContainerManager.shouldShowTooltip(GuiContainerManager.java:543)
at codechicken.nei.forge.GuiContainerManager.renderToolTips(GuiContainerManager.java:524)
at atq.a(GuiContainer.java:143)
at aug.a(SourceFile:31)
at aud.a(GuiContainerCreative.java:551)
at ayt.b(EntityRenderer.java:976)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.J(Minecraft.java:884)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(Minecraft.java:779)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
i installed NEI and when I press the "E" key it says "shutting down internal servers" and then crashes. I tried unloading the mods that i use except for NEI and it still does it.
---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// Don't be sad, have a hug! <3
java.lang.IllegalAccessError: tried to access field asw.e from class codechicken.nei.forge.GuiContainerManager
at codechicken.nei.forge.GuiContainerManager.shouldShowTooltip(GuiContainerManager.java:543)
at codechicken.nei.forge.GuiContainerManager.renderToolTips(GuiContainerManager.java:524)
at atq.a(GuiContainer.java:143)
at aug.a(SourceFile:31)
at aud.a(GuiContainerCreative.java:551)
at ayt.b(EntityRenderer.java:976)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.J(Minecraft.java:884)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(Minecraft.java:779)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
and when i look in minecraft in mods it says its active but in the game i cant find it
You're using Magic Launcher with a minecraft.jar that isn't called minecraft.jar? It needs to be called minecraft.jar.
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My policy has always been, give the people what the people want (within bounds). Since Ecu has left, and there's been enough cooldown. Vote on the poll.
My opinion on the vanilla ender chests being disabled is that only the recipe for the Vanilla Ender Chests should be disabled (with config, of course.)
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So I noticed that NEI seems to scroll in reverse when I scroll it with my mouse wheel now.. Going from page 1 to 5 instead of from 1 to 2.. Is there a way to change this back?
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Tried to vote in the poll but its telling me I must vote in each question in the poll, even though I've clicked on an option in each of the 3 sections.
I'd also like to ask for clarification on what the options in the last question (regard vanilla ender chests being disabled.) Obvisouly yes and no are self explanatory but is the config mentioned the '# of slots' config mentioned in the second portion or a config for allowing the vanillia ender chests to enabled and disabled by the user?
Also 6x9 is the size of a double chest, right? That might be worth looking into a double ender chest model, (although that more of me rambling about ideas and having no idea how hard they may be to actually implement.)
So I noticed that NEI seems to scroll in reverse when I scroll it with my mouse wheel now.. Going from page 1 to 5 instead of from 1 to 2.. Is there a way to change this back?
Same problem here. Couldn't find any obvious solution for it yet.
Anyone else have an idea how to change scrolling back to normal?
Had to reset poll, still had results from the last one
I can't vote for some stupid reason. It says I have to answer each question, which I did, but no matter how many times I try it keeps sending me to the page that says all questions must be answered...
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Curse PremiumThere's a simple solution to this: allow a 3x9 enderchest to be crafted for 3 times the cost of a 3x3 one, or maybe a little more. After all, there's nothing to stop the player from making three 3x3 chests for the same cost.
I don't see the total amount of storage per player to be much of an issue. It's already big enough that for practical purposes it's not going to be a limitation on anyone, so who cares if it becomes 3 times bigger? This is mainly about the convenience of having a reasonable amount of storage accessible through one container, so just set the price accordingly.
I have the same issue. I can assure you NEI is working properly. Maybe the author removed other mod spawners.
Because I'm not using RedPower/BuildCraft. (And I will get RedPower for 1.4.x when it releases but only for wiring and logic). So right now If I want the same storage in an ender chest... I can use up one inventory slot to carry a vanilla enderchest, and have one sitting at my base... or I can install your mod and have to carry 3 separate ender pouches (connected to 3 separate ender chests) to get the same storage. Couple that with the fact that your ender chests allow for any player to access them with the right colour coded chest/pouch meaning they can be used ad a shared inventory by players across the map... that made 27 slots great. Now I have 9... which serves me no purpose and even less so when me and my friends will start putting items in and the chest fills up.
You can say I get 36864 slots per player... but lets be honest I dont think many people will get that high. And even if some do, those are at best outliers.
So now I cant understand how its over powered to have 27 slots... you obviously didnt think so at the beginning... because all the screen shots, and the mod spotlight I watched (and based my download on) show 27 slots.
You could have given people the choice between an 3x3 or 3x9 version... (and in a way... I suppose you have, just not the preferred one in my case). I like the ability to colour code the chests, I think its great that they can be accessed by everyone unless you use a diamond on the lock. But nerfing them to 3x3 makes them useless for storage. Which considering that Storage is in the name of the mod is pretty sad.
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Time: 11/12/12 6:14 PM
Description: Unexpected error
java.lang.IllegalAccessError: tried to access field asw.e from class codechicken.nei.forge.GuiContainerManager
at codechicken.nei.forge.GuiContainerManager.shouldShowTooltip(GuiContainerManager.java:543)
at codechicken.nei.forge.GuiContainerManager.renderToolTips(GuiContainerManager.java:524)
at atq.a(GuiContainer.java:143)
at aug.a(SourceFile:31)
at aud.a(GuiContainerCreative.java:551)
at ayt.b(EntityRenderer.java:976)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.J(Minecraft.java:884)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(Minecraft.java:779)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Relevant Details:
- Minecraft Version: 1.4.2
- Operating System: Windows 7 (amd64) version 6.1
- Java Version: 1.7.0_03, Oracle Corporation
- Java VM Version: Java HotSpot™ 64-Bit Server VM (mixed mode), Oracle Corporation
- Memory: 252229088 bytes (240 MB) / 514523136 bytes (490 MB) up to 954466304 bytes (910 MB)
- JVM Flags: 2 total; -Xms512m -Xmx1024m
- AABB Pool Size: 20899 (1170344 bytes; 1 MB) allocated, 311 (17416 bytes; 0 MB) used
- FML: MCP v7.19 FML v4.2.18.433 Minecraft Forge 6.0.1.355 3 mods loaded, 3 mods active
mcp [Minecraft Coder Pack] (minecraft.jar) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available
FML [Forge Mod Loader] (coremods) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available
Forge [Minecraft Forge] (coremods) Unloaded->Constructed->Pre-initialized->Initialized->Post-initialized->Available->Available->Available
- LWJGL: 2.4.2
- OpenGL: Mobile Intel® 4 Series Express Chipset Family GL version 2.1.0 - Build 8.15.10.1808, Intel
- Is Modded: Definitely; 'forge,fml'
- Type: Client
- Texture Pack: Default
- Profiler Position: N/A (disabled)
- Vec3 Pool Size: 1143 (64008 bytes; 0 MB) allocated, 121 (6776 bytes; 0 MB) used
- World MpServer Entities: 10 total; [axc['ken147'/219, l='MpServer', x=-179.50, y=71.62, z=256.50], oq['Squid'/276, l='MpServer', x=-167.50, y=58.00, z=287.50], oj['Cow'/103, l='MpServer', x=-202.50, y=63.00, z=283.50], oj['Cow'/104, l='MpServer', x=-203.50, y=64.00, z=285.50], oj['Cow'/124, l='MpServer', x=-179.50, y=66.00, z=284.21], oj['Cow'/123, l='MpServer', x=-178.27, y=65.00, z=285.53], oj['Cow'/121, l='MpServer', x=-180.73, y=67.00, z=284.50], og['Bat'/387, l='MpServer', x=-207.50, y=31.00, z=249.50], og['Bat'/388, l='MpServer', x=-205.50, y=31.00, z=251.50], og['Bat'/386, l='MpServer', x=-209.50, y=31.00, z=245.50]]
- World MpServer Players: 1 total; [axc['ken147'/219, l='MpServer', x=-179.50, y=71.62, z=256.50]]
- World MpServer Chunk Stats: MultiplayerChunkCache: 20
- Forced Entities: 10 total; [oj['Cow'/103, l='MpServer', x=-202.50, y=63.00, z=283.50], oq['Squid'/276, l='MpServer', x=-167.50, y=58.00, z=287.50], og['Bat'/387, l='MpServer', x=-207.50, y=31.00, z=249.50], og['Bat'/386, l='MpServer', x=-209.50, y=31.00, z=245.50], oj['Cow'/124, l='MpServer', x=-179.50, y=66.00, z=284.21], oj['Cow'/123, l='MpServer', x=-178.27, y=65.00, z=285.53], oj['Cow'/121, l='MpServer', x=-180.73, y=67.00, z=284.50], oj['Cow'/104, l='MpServer', x=-203.50, y=64.00, z=285.50], og['Bat'/388, l='MpServer', x=-205.50, y=31.00, z=251.50], axc['ken147'/219, l='MpServer', x=-179.50, y=71.62, z=256.50]]
- Retry Entities: 0 total; []
You installed incorrectly.
It's a bug that I guess ChickenBones hasn't fixed yet.
Looks like it's somehow NEI-related. You're running FTB?
You're using Magic Launcher with a minecraft.jar that isn't called minecraft.jar? It needs to be called minecraft.jar.
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Curse PremiumI'd also like to ask for clarification on what the options in the last question (regard vanilla ender chests being disabled.) Obvisouly yes and no are self explanatory but is the config mentioned the '# of slots' config mentioned in the second portion or a config for allowing the vanillia ender chests to enabled and disabled by the user?
Also 6x9 is the size of a double chest, right? That might be worth looking into a double ender chest model, (although that more of me rambling about ideas and having no idea how hard they may be to actually implement.)
Same problem here. Couldn't find any obvious solution for it yet.
Anyone else have an idea how to change scrolling back to normal?
Glad to know I'm not the only one that it happened to
Hoping for an easy fix.
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I can't vote for some stupid reason. It says I have to answer each question, which I did, but no matter how many times I try it keeps sending me to the page that says all questions must be answered...
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Configurable slots for those who want something more.
Yes with config