-Another rant about how everyone should stop the progress because his pet dev is slow-
All I want is up-to-date feed the beast, where minecraft and mods are made better than they are in 1.4.7. If I could have everything neatly packed as it is for 1.4.7, I'd be happy. But I don't feel like throwing everything out, bothering with configurations, ID conflicts and possible gamebreaking crashes and bugs. Support Eloraam as much as you want - It's her to blame in stripping FTB users of the latest minecraft and mod versions.
Really, for you 1.5.1 is only hoppers? The fact that there are tons of bug fixes and game content in "1.5.1 only" mod versions is ignored completely. I just don't understand why people absolutely have to demand from others to not complain (even when complaints are completely deserved) and deprive themselves of tons of fun and features just because someone can't update on time.
Excuse me? So how much money did you spend on this free mod to turn you into a "customer" that has earned the right to complain about anything? I don't care if Eloraam comes on daily to insult the entire Minecraft community and call her fans morons, nobody has earned that right. She doesn't owe anybody anything and nobody "deserves" an update. Especially not with people like you around.
All I want is up-to-date feed the beast, where minecraft and mods are made better than they are in 1.4.7. If I could have everything neatly packed as it is for 1.4.7, I'd be happy. But I don't feel like throwing everything out, bothering with configurations, ID conflicts and possible gamebreaking crashes and bugs. Support Eloraam as much as you want - It's her to blame in stripping FTB users of the latest minecraft and mod versions.
I understand what you are saying, but If you could imagine for a second the system I proposed in action. Everyone agreed to 1.4.7, all mod progress would stay with 1.4.7, forge would stay with 1.4.7 everything would work. The problem is for some reason there are people who think they need vanilla hoppers This will never get better if we don't fix it. Not only that but mods won't have to spend so much time and energy updating as often and/or working with/around MineCraft bugs that are Mojang's responsibility not theirs. This means more content for us in the long run! Eloraam is doing exactly what she should be doing, the problem is that people don't understand why she's doing it. If people drop 1.4.7 there is no point updating new content because people won't use it. If we can all communicate and understand this she will be seen.
You are speaking too much from your own perspective and mod load-out... ...and you're trying to bring too much 'general minecraft modding' material into this one specific instance.
As far as 1.5.x not being for people who play modded minecraft- wrong... bug fixes. that's all there is to it. It's been months since 1.5.x was released and pretty much every mod that could need it has updated AND released at least one bugfix. Having RedPower2 in our loadout prevents us from having less bugs because we are not able to apply even Forge bugfixes since the last 1.4.7 release. No Minecraft bugfixes, no Forge bugfixes and no 'other-mod' bugfixes. (And on the subject of importance of bugfix releases... 1.4.6\7 bugfixes across all mods reduced the frequency of crashes on my server by over 200%). You speak of a stable\clean minecraft release... ain't gonna happen if users are stuck on old versions unable to update their game to provide latest-version-crash-reports.
Another thing that you do not seem to be taking into account is the fact that this is has becomeing standard for Eloraam. Aside from the magnitude being less due to a smaller fanbase and less relevancy... new MC version... couple of tweets to say she's working on it... months of silence... drama and fighting in the community... more silence... it goes round and round so in some small way the 'harassment she gets' is a product of her own creation. She breeds this resentment through the manner in which she conducts herself.
And there-in lies the foolishness... it could all be easily avoided and we'd all be better off for it. But she can't be bothered... nor should we expect her to be bothered (<---sarcasm).
Respect goes two ways. Apparently she has very little for the Minecraft community-at-large considering her willingness to remain silent when factions of the community are tearing each other apart on her account.
Uh, IC2 isn't ready for 1.5.x either, I'm waiting on that one as well.
General question - I see a lot of people using things like "Sequencers" and some other stuff that I cannot find a recipe anywhere for. Is this part of RP2?
Also, just a general comment to those who are saying "Stick with 1.4.7... why do you need hoppers etc". The reason I upgraded to 1.5.1 was totally non-hopper related. Some of the other mods I enjoy (like the Modular Powersuits" as the prime example) has several limitations in the older versions. The main one being that I cannot RECHARGE my power glove, or armor etc in my MFSU without the updated mod version for 1.5.1. So therefore I spent countless hours updating everything to the new version.
I hope I am not offending anyone, but I am not sure of the best way to proceed (trying like crazy to figure out an automated tree farm using forestry - but not finding an arboretum, or sequencer or half of the stuff that seem to be red power 2/forestry related). Someone please help?
General question - I see a lot of people using things like "Sequencers" and some other stuff that I cannot find a recipe anywhere for. Is this part of RP2?
Also, just a general comment to those who are saying "Stick with 1.4.7... why do you need hoppers etc". The reason I upgraded to 1.5.1 was totally non-hopper related. Some of the other mods I enjoy (like the Modular Powersuits" as the prime example) has several limitations in the older versions. The main one being that I cannot RECHARGE my power glove, or armor etc in my MFSU without the updated mod version for 1.5.1. So therefore I spent countless hours updating everything to the new version.
I hope I am not offending anyone, but I am not sure of the best way to proceed (trying like crazy to figure out an automated tree farm using forestry - but not finding an arboretum, or sequencer or half of the stuff that seem to be red power 2/forestry related). Someone please help?
I'm not offended at all, the reason for this is because modders and forge went beyond 1.4.7 If they had stayed with 1.4.7 everything would work and RP2 would be available still! It was actually them not Eloraam that are making this harder than it needs to be, but WE THE PEOPLE demanded the updates (vanilla hoppers) and we got them Hopefully they will realize this sooner than later.
EDIT* adding to YaNKeer below here, RP2 also has a wiki page!
General question - I see a lot of people using things like "Sequencers" and some other stuff that I cannot find a recipe anywhere for. Is this part of RP2?
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I hope I am not offending anyone, but I am not sure of the best way to proceed (trying like crazy to figure out an automated tree farm using forestry - but not finding an arboretum, or sequencer or half of the stuff that seem to be red power 2/forestry related). Someone please help?
For recipe problems, I would recommend installing NEI, with the plugins for various mods (including RP). It allows you to see recipes of most items. Not sure, but I think that there is a logic tile called a sequencer (been quite sometime since I played with logic much)?
The forestry blocks you mention have been replaced with a multiblock structure. You can find more info on those in the forestry wiki, on the forestry thread.
And if you want to automate forestry, I would recommend using Buildcraft pipes over Redpower. The only place where I prefer BC over RP.
I would like to have permission to use this mod in a modpack that i am creating. I will be earning nothing off this i am using it to have fun with a few friends. If that is ok with you. So may i have permission?
You are not likely to get permission here. You would be better off trying on twitter (not very likely still, but better than here). She hasn't been to the forums for the last 8 months or so.
Not sure what it is or why it was posted here, briefly saw Karma in there, it isn't what people think it is. It's not revenge, it's guilt and sympathy, you felt so bad for something you did in a previous life/situation that you put yourself in their position to understand the pain you caused them.
wait what is available for download? O.O??? anything about this mod that might work on 1.5.2 would be amazing is there a test or something or something else? I didn't think we heard anything from the modder so I did not think there was hope for anything soon but I saw ppl getting excited is there a link to something? could someone post it again or explain if you don't mine :3
wait what is available for download? O.O??? anything about this mod that might work on 1.5.2 would be amazing is there a test or something or something else? I didn't think we heard anything from the modder so I did not think there was hope for anything soon but I saw ppl getting excited is there a link to something? could someone post it again or explain if you don't mine :3
only works in 1.4.6/7 unfort, no ETA on a 1.5.x version...Eloraam has had a bit of bad luck with RL job projects killing her drive to mod and eating all her time.
Really, for you 1.5.1 is only hoppers? The fact that there are tons of bug fixes and game content in "1.5.1 only" mod versions is ignored completely. I just don't understand why people absolutely have to demand from others to not complain (even when complaints are completely deserved) and deprive themselves of tons of fun and features just because someone can't update on time.
1.5.1 for me is a game breaker. My daughter's laptap cannot do anything with my 1.4.7 server but 1.5.1 is perfectly playable for her. This is the main reason I wish to update to 1.5.1. Really? only about hoppers? Get a copy of Computercraft and your opinion on that might change. There are alot of features in 1.5.1 for map makers like me and this is yet another reason I wish to update. There is a reason after all Herobrine's Mansion II uses 1.5 I was hoping to a make a completely computer powered map like my 1.4.7 server however without redpower its gonna take a great deal more of learning. I'm more concerned in just knowing if the mod is gonna be updated or not? if not then I'll open up the books again and relearn some of the coding ill need to do. Otherwise id rather stick to Pheriperal.wrap and events to use all the redpower machinery i can. With my previous post I did not mean to sound like I was complaining and I apologize if this was the case. I only wanted to point out the dangers and possible outcome of a mod when its not updated. I've been modding since Ultima, Dungeon Seige and have seen this occur with almost every mod with those games. If a mod does not get updated it gets replaced. I have played WOW and quit for long periods , when I start playing again and go looking for the mods I used in the past I see this often and I have to educate myself about the new replacement mods.
All I want is up-to-date feed the beast, where minecraft and mods are made better than they are in 1.4.7. If I could have everything neatly packed as it is for 1.4.7, I'd be happy. But I don't feel like throwing everything out, bothering with configurations, ID conflicts and possible gamebreaking crashes and bugs. Support Eloraam as much as you want - It's her to blame in stripping FTB users of the latest minecraft and mod versions.
Excuse me? So how much money did you spend on this free mod to turn you into a "customer" that has earned the right to complain about anything? I don't care if Eloraam comes on daily to insult the entire Minecraft community and call her fans morons, nobody has earned that right. She doesn't owe anybody anything and nobody "deserves" an update. Especially not with people like you around.
The immaturity in this thread is staggering.
I understand what you are saying, but If you could imagine for a second the system I proposed in action. Everyone agreed to 1.4.7, all mod progress would stay with 1.4.7, forge would stay with 1.4.7 everything would work. The problem is for some reason there are people who think they need vanilla hoppers
Uh, IC2 isn't ready for 1.5.x either, I'm waiting on that one as well.
A beta version of it is out though.
not a PUBLIC beta, that is a DEV beta
It is available for download, so I am not sure what the difference is.
Exactly. Build 304 is stable, and every IC2 mod/compatability mod, has been updated/updating to use this build.
diamond's to you my friend
If all modders agreed on one version at a time we would have all of them available to use.
Also, just a general comment to those who are saying "Stick with 1.4.7... why do you need hoppers etc". The reason I upgraded to 1.5.1 was totally non-hopper related. Some of the other mods I enjoy (like the Modular Powersuits" as the prime example) has several limitations in the older versions. The main one being that I cannot RECHARGE my power glove, or armor etc in my MFSU without the updated mod version for 1.5.1. So therefore I spent countless hours updating everything to the new version.
I hope I am not offending anyone, but I am not sure of the best way to proceed (trying like crazy to figure out an automated tree farm using forestry - but not finding an arboretum, or sequencer or half of the stuff that seem to be red power 2/forestry related). Someone please help?
I'm not offended at all, the reason for this is because modders and forge went beyond 1.4.7 If they had stayed with 1.4.7 everything would work and RP2 would be available still! It was actually them not Eloraam that are making this harder than it needs to be, but WE THE PEOPLE demanded the updates (vanilla hoppers) and we got them
EDIT* adding to YaNKeer below here, RP2 also has a wiki page!
For recipe problems, I would recommend installing NEI, with the plugins for various mods (including RP). It allows you to see recipes of most items. Not sure, but I think that there is a logic tile called a sequencer (been quite sometime since I played with logic much)?
The forestry blocks you mention have been replaced with a multiblock structure. You can find more info on those in the forestry wiki, on the forestry thread.
And if you want to automate forestry, I would recommend using Buildcraft pipes over Redpower. The only place where I prefer BC over RP.
DEV versions are not meant for the public but for other devs to use for updating their mods that use the IC2 API
Basically someone from somewhere wanted a vanilla hopper and then claim on youtube, "they got it first"...
Ah. You were referring to any official release. Fair enough.
You are not likely to get permission here. You would be better off trying on twitter (not very likely still, but better than here). She hasn't been to the forums for the last 8 months or so.
Not sure what it is or why it was posted here, briefly saw Karma in there, it isn't what people think it is. It's not revenge, it's guilt and sympathy, you felt so bad for something you did in a previous life/situation that you put yourself in their position to understand the pain you caused them.
only works in 1.4.6/7 unfort, no ETA on a 1.5.x version...Eloraam has had a bit of bad luck with RL job projects killing her drive to mod and eating all her time.
1.5.1 for me is a game breaker. My daughter's laptap cannot do anything with my 1.4.7 server but 1.5.1 is perfectly playable for her. This is the main reason I wish to update to 1.5.1. Really? only about hoppers? Get a copy of Computercraft and your opinion on that might change. There are alot of features in 1.5.1 for map makers like me and this is yet another reason I wish to update. There is a reason after all Herobrine's Mansion II uses 1.5 I was hoping to a make a completely computer powered map like my 1.4.7 server however without redpower its gonna take a great deal more of learning. I'm more concerned in just knowing if the mod is gonna be updated or not? if not then I'll open up the books again and relearn some of the coding ill need to do. Otherwise id rather stick to Pheriperal.wrap and events to use all the redpower machinery i can. With my previous post I did not mean to sound like I was complaining and I apologize if this was the case. I only wanted to point out the dangers and possible outcome of a mod when its not updated. I've been modding since Ultima, Dungeon Seige and have seen this occur with almost every mod with those games. If a mod does not get updated it gets replaced. I have played WOW and quit for long periods , when I start playing again and go looking for the mods I used in the past I see this often and I have to educate myself about the new replacement mods.