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Quote from clarity2199

I have a question...how are you supposed to edit this mod? It says it's editable on the first page, but when you download it, you only get 2 class files to put into the jar. There's no config file or nothing. So, how do you edit it? Do I have to know machine language or something??
Thanks.

It creates the config files after you start Minecraft with it the first time.

Does BOD work with Mystcraft? Does it work with other dimension mods? Does it work with Underground Biomes?

I'm looking over the source code. I was surprised to see it so small, and mostly readable.

And, I notice that you have what appears to be overrides hardcoded for only the overworld, and the nether.
I'm not sure if "blocks to spawn ores in" is limited to one per dimension, or multiple per dimension -- UB turns vanilla stone into 3*8 different types of stone (three block ID's, 8 metas per block).

And, I see this:

			   if(minableBlockId == 3) {whatWorld = "/OverWorld";}
				if(minableBlockId == 153) {whatWorld = "/Nether";}
				configDirectory = new File(Minecraft.getMinecraftDir() + "/BODprops/" + whatWorld);// used for switching the code to singleplayer
				//configDirectory = new File(new File(".").getAbsolutePath() + "/BODprops/" + whatWorld); // used for switching the code to multiplayer

Smooth stone can be any typical mystcraft age; netherrack can be any atypical age (and generates netherquartz). Dimensions are not limited to 0 or -1.

Yet now that I think about it, smooth stone is 1; 3 is dirt. Ores don't appear in dirt.

Quote from marcopolo1613

@Keybounce
it should work with mystcraft, you can make different ores, layers, and mines, spawn in different blocks. 3 is dirt, 153 is nether quartz. BOD will make stuff in any dimension, it just depends on whether or not the outside code calls worldGenMinable to spawn a vein. 3 and 153 are the first things to be spawned in each of the vanilla dimensions, tells me which config folder to use.

edit: sorry im not sure if it works with mystcraft now that i am doing the dirt thing.

And here is the problem.

While most mystcraft ages have normal stone ground, and get dirt put in as the first ore, it is perfectly valid to have a world where the ground is dirt, or netherrack, or end stone; the list is short because that's all Xcw marked as "ground" in the standard pack. There is an add-on for mystcraft that gives you another 30+ ground blocks, including stone brick (deliberately chosen to make skylands look better.)

You can, for example, write an age as:
hell biome, single biome, netherrack, lava, cave world, bright lighting, nether fortresses

and get a reasonably close approximation to the nether -- but since there is no "stone", as far as I know (haven't tested the current mystcraft), you won't get any dirt, gravel, or soul sand outside of the forts, and you won't see an attempt to generate netherrack through worldgenminable -- in fact, if I understand it correctly, you'll still see an attempt to generate dirt/gravel/ores, all of which will fail (no stone), and then xcw adds in a netherquartz gen because the ground was specified as netherrack.

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Ok, so if I'm understanding this right: You have two different possible configs. One is intended for all overworld-like worlds/ages, and one is intended for all nether-like worlds/ages. The determination is made by looking at what's the first call to worldgenminable in each dimension. Am I correct so far?

Is there a way to override it's idea? It's perfectly acceptable to me if, on the first visit to a nether-like age, I have to shut down the server, alter a config flag for that dimension, delete the chunks, and restart/regen the chunks. If that is only once per nether-style age, that's fine.

Quote from marcopolo1613

@LordBlackHole & clarity2199
it actually creates a config when you load new chunks for the first time, like a new world, or by exploring an old one.

Oops, my bad.

You have a world reference right in generate, can't you just use world.provider.dimensionId ?

Quote from marcopolo1613

if it spawns the normal vanilla ores from biomeDecorator in that dimension, it will use the standard configs I believe, the purpuse of having the dirt/quartx check is so that you can have seperate configs for the nether, it wastes a lot of CPU to try all the ores and only spawn a few.

I do see the delema though, especially since other ground types will force you to add in alternates for every ore for every dimension, I need to find a way of tieing the world ID to a ground type as the default, and make a config based on the ores that apear. so it will make folders unique to the dimensions. does mystcraft simply count as you gain new dimension IDs?

Not sure I fully understood that.

A little bit of ChunkProviderMyst.java is visible at 22 minutes, 3 seconds into this video
http://store33.media..._1373501308.flv
(part of a twitch TV stream from last week). The quick summary:
1. If this has the age spawn, put a stone platform down at the spawn point (includes air above it so you can actually link to it).
2. Forge event for PopulateChunkEvent.pre
3. BiomeGenBase.decorate
4. Mystcraft scattered feature generation
5. Animal spawning
6. Normal world population.
7. An attempt to generate nether quartz into any netherrack (WorldGenMinable) (NB: You can have netherrack tendrils in an age that has normal stone landscape. Or, you could have stone tendrils in an age that had netherrack landscape.)
8. Turning exposed freezable blocks to ice
9. Turn exposed snowable locations to snow layers

... that's all that's visible.

In general, mystcraft gets the next available dimension from Forge, but you can force it to use any dimension you want, including negative numbers.

One could argue that ores spawn in stone. If there is any other material then you don't get ores. I made a small mod that added a few kinds of stone, and what I did was check the dimension ID and anything besides the nether or end were to be treated exactly like the overworld regardless of anything else. The only other caveat I can think of would be allowing nether ores to spawn in netherrack in nether biomes. And I guess the same for endstone in ender biomes. As long as Mystcraft still allows the regular oregen with WorldGenMinable then it should be fairly easy.

And Marco, if you need some help with the update I could help out. I just got done updating my own mods to 1.6, and while I've still got a few other things going on, I could find time to do something. Actually, with the way that 1.6 HATES modding the jar, I could pretty easily make a coremod hook so that the rest of the code could be in a regular mod. It'd save a lot of headaches for users trying to install it.

Something to think about.

Quote from LordBlackHole

One could argue that ores spawn in stone. If there is any other material then you don't get ores.

Sure, that's fine. Just check that it's either block 1 (vanilla stone), or in the forge dictionary as a stone (see Underground Biomes ... ".*Stone" is the regex for what it adds).

But if there's netherrack, attempt to put quartz in.

Don't assume that there's only one kind of ground. Mystcraft will let you make a world that is void, with multiple tendrils of various materials -- so you'll have "cave-like" lines of stone, netherrack, wood, dirt, grass, etc.

(A "tendril" is modeled after the code for caves, but currently generates significantly smaller than a cave does. In the past, it was the same size, and you know how big vanilla caves can be.)

Quote from Keybounce

Sure, that's fine. Just check that it's either block 1 (vanilla stone), or in the forge dictionary as a stone (see Underground Biomes ... ".*Stone" is the regex for what it adds).

But if there's netherrack, attempt to put quartz in.

Don't assume that there's only one kind of ground. Mystcraft will let you make a world that is void, with multiple tendrils of various materials -- so you'll have "cave-like" lines of stone, netherrack, wood, dirt, grass, etc.

(A "tendril" is modeled after the code for caves, but currently generates significantly smaller than a cave does. In the past, it was the same size, and you know how big vanilla caves can be.)

Hmmm, you know, now that I think about it ...... does the dimension really matter at all? The normal ores spawn in stone, nether ores spawn in netherrack ...... maybe the dimension just isn't important at all? Why not have quartz try to spawn all the time and then just fail if it can't find any netherrack to replace? I'm not really sure how Minecraft does it's nether ore generation.