Bro, not to upset you or anything, but these are no where near gaming specs... 4GB is minimum as Windows usually takes up 2GB from all the services it runs. I'm not sure what Pineview is, but I'm assuming this is a laptop or netbook. If Minecraft is your Main thing, I'd save up and build a nice $400 Mini-Desktop to play games on or pay more $$$ to get a Laptop with a Dedicated Graphics card with an Core i3 Processor.
Well my system is a ne56r48u, if that says anything... It runs minecraft but the fps is between 9-30 roughly by default. Optifine actually stabilizes it to roughly 20-35... 25 average. steadily. So I am one, even though it is a laptop, kinda needs optifine to at least have an ok fps to play with. However on that note, they can take their time, as I am in no rush; since I would rather them get a workable copy than to rush one out. So lots of patience on my side.
Its a Gateway Laptop. Again, not the best, but at least you have a Pentium and the RAM. Since Minecraft 1.7+ is going to using Shaders, a graphics card is going to be required, if not now, then soon...
Tip for all : Your system should be able to "load balance" whats on the machine. Whether you are a Gamer or not, a graphics card is usually desired in all Consumer applications these days, even to just run the OS and Surf the Web. Like I stated before, I have an i3 and GT 610 (cheapest hardware avail at the time). System runs fine and can play most games for me and my wife on Low / Medium. (examples : LoL + Minecraft). These games run fine because the system has 2x sources of processing to deal with the load. Most Laptops and low end PCs have "built-in" graphics to the processor (Intel HD // Radeon A). This is bad joojoo because the processor not only has to deal with the data load, but the graphical load as well. Minecraft specifically has to render Chunks (65,536 Blocks). 8 Chunks is 524,288 Blocks and every block is an array of data holding values such as : Textures, Animation, Light Data, Block IDs, Blast Resistance, Tool Resistance, Flammability, Placement Parameters, Texture Connection Data, Entity Data, etc. If you multiply those values by 524,288 you are pushing a lot of onDemand Information. So, if you're process has 2 Cores and needs 1 Core to do video, that leaves 1 Core left to deal with Minecraft, Windows, Services and any other applications you are running (Music, Youtube, Systray stuff). In short : You're gonna have a bad time.
Bonus Tip : You can buy an i3/GT micro desktop for about $400 (Tower + Internals). My suggestion is always get the news Sockets for your Motherboard so you can upgrade next time Games decide to crank it up a notch. Recommended Specs to live by :
CPU : Core i3+
MEM : 4GB + (8GB for actual gamers)
VID : GeForce or Radeon with 128-bit Bus Width (Examples GT630 / Radeon 6xxx Series)
HDD : 7200RPM (Size depends on User)
SND : Sound Blaster Go PRO (Not required, but $20 on Amazon to help alleviate the CPU even more)
PSU : 480W (Way overkill, but longevity is higher with super light loads)
Hi guys my Forge log says this when I try to put Optifine into my mods folder:
"2013-10-27 09:42:04 [INFO] [ForgeModLoader] FML has found a non-mod file OptiFine_1.6.4_HD_U_C6.jar in your mods directory. It will now be injected into your classpath. This could severe stability issues, it should be removed if possible."
Yet, Optifine does not work when I test it in game. Can anyone tell based on this log whether something is going wrong? Thanks.
Hi guys my Forge log says this when I try to put Optifine into my mods folder:
"2013-10-27 09:42:04 [INFO] [ForgeModLoader] FML has found a non-mod file OptiFine_1.6.4_HD_U_C6.jar in your mods directory. It will now be injected into your classpath. This could severe stability issues, it should be removed if possible."
Yet, Optifine does not work when I test it in game. Can anyone tell based on this log whether something is going wrong? Thanks.
If you're running 1.7.2, OptiFine has not been updated to that version yet.
Bro, not to upset you or anything, but these are no where near gaming specs... 4GB is minimum as Windows usually takes up 2GB from all the services it runs. I'm not sure what Pineview is, but I'm assuming this is a laptop or netbook. If Minecraft is your Main thing, I'd save up and build a nice $400 Mini-Desktop to play games on or pay more $$$ to get a Laptop with a Dedicated Graphics card with an Core i3 Processor.
You sir... are not rendering in full screen Minecraft, which everyone plays in. FPS is different when the Window is the size of iPod.
Its a Gateway Laptop. Again, not the best, but at least you have a Pentium and the RAM. Since Minecraft 1.7+ is going to using Shaders, a graphics card is going to be required, if not now, then soon...
Tip for all : Your system should be able to "load balance" whats on the machine. Whether you are a Gamer or not, a graphics card is usually desired in all Consumer applications these days, even to just run the OS and Surf the Web. Like I stated before, I have an i3 and GT 610 (cheapest hardware avail at the time). System runs fine and can play most games for me and my wife on Low / Medium. (examples : LoL + Minecraft). These games run fine because the system has 2x sources of processing to deal with the load. Most Laptops and low end PCs have "built-in" graphics to the processor (Intel HD // Radeon A). This is bad joojoo because the processor not only has to deal with the data load, but the graphical load as well. Minecraft specifically has to render Chunks (65,536 Blocks). 8 Chunks is 524,288 Blocks and every block is an array of data holding values such as : Textures, Animation, Light Data, Block IDs, Blast Resistance, Tool Resistance, Flammability, Placement Parameters, Texture Connection Data, Entity Data, etc. If you multiply those values by 524,288 you are pushing a lot of onDemand Information. So, if you're process has 2 Cores and needs 1 Core to do video, that leaves 1 Core left to deal with Minecraft, Windows, Services and any other applications you are running (Music, Youtube, Systray stuff). In short : You're gonna have a bad time.
Bonus Tip : You can buy an i3/GT micro desktop for about $400 (Tower + Internals). My suggestion is always get the news Sockets for your Motherboard so you can upgrade next time Games decide to crank it up a notch. Recommended Specs to live by :
CPU : Core i3+
MEM : 4GB + (8GB for actual gamers)
VID : GeForce or Radeon with 128-bit Bus Width (Examples GT630 / Radeon 6xxx Series)
HDD : 7200RPM (Size depends on User)
SND : Sound Blaster Go PRO (Not required, but $20 on Amazon to help alleviate the CPU even more)
PSU : 480W (Way overkill, but longevity is higher with super light loads)
Um, I have an 8-year old PC with only 2GB RAM, and Minecraft is still playable. Specs:
Windows XP Professional SP3 32-bit
Intel Pentium 4, 3.2GHz
2GB RAM DDR-400
Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT 256MB
I usually play in windowed mode, but fullscreen works too.
Um, I have an 8-year old PC with only 2GB RAM, and Minecraft is still playable. Specs:
Windows XP Professional SP3 32-bit
Intel Pentium 4, 3.2GHz
2GB RAM DDR-400
Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT 256MB
I usually play in windowed mode, but fullscreen works too.
That's fine... But those specs are acceptable to play Minecraft. 3.2Ghz vs his 1.8Ghz Processor. Pentium vs Atom? Plus you have an 8500GT. So imagine if you will that these are cars. You have a v6 Engine with a Turbo and he's driving a 4 banger. You can't expect him to go as fast as you.
You sir... are not rendering in full screen Minecraft, which everyone plays in. FPS is different when the Window is the size of iPod.
I usually don't play in fullscreen because it's a hassle when you need to switch to other things while you play, but I get notably higher FPS when I'm in fullscreen, rather than the other way around, contrary to what you say xD
Bro, not to upset you or anything, but these are no where near gaming specs... 4GB is minimum as Windows usually takes up 2GB from all the services it runs. I'm not sure what Pineview is, but I'm assuming this is a laptop or netbook. If Minecraft is your Main thing, I'd save up and build a nice $400 Mini-Desktop to play games on or pay more $$$ to get a Laptop with a Dedicated Graphics card with an Core i3 Processor.
You sir... are not rendering in full screen Minecraft, which everyone plays in. FPS is different when the Window is the size of iPod.
Its a Gateway Laptop. Again, not the best, but at least you have a Pentium and the RAM. Since Minecraft 1.7+ is going to using Shaders, a graphics card is going to be required, if not now, then soon...
Tip for all : Your system should be able to "load balance" whats on the machine. Whether you are a Gamer or not, a graphics card is usually desired in all Consumer applications these days, even to just run the OS and Surf the Web. Like I stated before, I have an i3 and GT 610 (cheapest hardware avail at the time). System runs fine and can play most games for me and my wife on Low / Medium. (examples : LoL + Minecraft). These games run fine because the system has 2x sources of processing to deal with the load. Most Laptops and low end PCs have "built-in" graphics to the processor (Intel HD // Radeon A). This is bad joojoo because the processor not only has to deal with the data load, but the graphical load as well. Minecraft specifically has to render Chunks (65,536 Blocks). 8 Chunks is 524,288 Blocks and every block is an array of data holding values such as : Textures, Animation, Light Data, Block IDs, Blast Resistance, Tool Resistance, Flammability, Placement Parameters, Texture Connection Data, Entity Data, etc. If you multiply those values by 524,288 you are pushing a lot of onDemand Information. So, if you're process has 2 Cores and needs 1 Core to do video, that leaves 1 Core left to deal with Minecraft, Windows, Services and any other applications you are running (Music, Youtube, Systray stuff). In short : You're gonna have a bad time.
Bonus Tip : You can buy an i3/GT micro desktop for about $400 (Tower + Internals). My suggestion is always get the news Sockets for your Motherboard so you can upgrade next time Games decide to crank it up a notch. Recommended Specs to live by :
CPU : Core i3+
MEM : 4GB + (8GB for actual gamers)
VID : GeForce or Radeon with 128-bit Bus Width (Examples GT630 / Radeon 6xxx Series)
HDD : 7200RPM (Size depends on User)
SND : Sound Blaster Go PRO (Not required, but $20 on Amazon to help alleviate the CPU even more)
PSU : 480W (Way overkill, but longevity is higher with super light loads)
That much I do understand, but can't really do much about the laptop at the moment, since it was a gift from my parents; just so I would have a computer. Thanks for the tip. When I do manage to buy a rig of some sort you could bet it will be a desktop of some kind; maybe not the most advanced, but at least something that will handle better. Haven't had much problems with it really, and thankfully. Usually with the optifine features I usually turn a few things off and not use certain ones. It will work for the time being, but when they do decide to up the ante then I will just have to play the version that I can till I am able to get a better rig.:D
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I am unable to disable the debug profiler when loading optifine through forge. The debug profiler seems to be causing significant lag, too. Has anybody else had this problem?
Bump. This is still a problem for me. I have disabled optifine for the time being. I suppose my issue may vanish with the release of optifine 1.7.*, but that is not yet released to my knowledge and the server(s) that I play on are still on 1.6.4
It just baffles me they haven't found a way to make Minecraft perform any better than it does. In all seriousness, a single core CPU running at 1.2 GHz or so, adequate amount of RAM (2GB+ for Windows XP and 4GB+ for Windows Vista and up), and a video card with at least 128 MB of VRAM should theoretically run Minecraft at a solid 60 FPS at 1920x1080 (granted you're not trying to run some super fancy shaders).
When my computer was down, my dad's AMD Sempron (which is a dual core CPU) and GeForce 5800 struggled to run it at like 20 FPS with all the graphic settings set to fast, which is ridiculous.
I know people keep saying "Derp, buy a faster computer", but that's not where the problem lies. The people having problems understand they don't have the fastest computers in the world. They understand they're not going to pull 300 FPS at 1920x1080 with a 512x512 resolution texture pack and Sonic Ether's Unbelievable Shaders. The problem is any computer -- hell, a netbook made in the past 10 years even (and since netbooks aren't even that old I think you get my drift), theoretically should run Minecraft at a solid 60 FPS in the vanilla state. The fact we even have to use mods such as OptiFine to maximize the performance is downright pitiful. Even my computer, which is quite a beast (runs Battlefield 3 on Ultra without even dropping below 35 FPS in even the most intense fights) doesn't get maximum performance in Minecraft unless I use Optifine. That in itself is terrible.
It's really time to ditch the Java and rewrite this game in C++. The games potential would quadruple. And the performance would shoot through the roof.
It just baffles me they haven't found a way to make Minecraft perform any better than it does. In all seriousness, a single core CPU running at 1.2 GHz or so, adequate amount of RAM (2GB+ for Windows XP and 4GB+ for Windows Vista and up), and a video card with at least 128 MB of VRAM should theoretically run Minecraft at a solid 60 FPS at 1920x1080 (granted you're not trying to run some super fancy shaders).
When my computer was down, my dad's AMD Sempron (which is a dual core CPU) and GeForce 5800 struggled to run it at like 20 FPS with all the graphic settings set to fast, which is ridiculous.
I know people keep saying "Derp, buy a faster computer", but that's not where the problem lies. The people having problems understand they don't have the fastest computers in the world. They understand they're not going to pull 300 FPS at 1920x1080 with a 512x512 resolution texture pack and Sonic Ether's Unbelievable Shaders. The problem is any computer -- hell, a netbook made in the past 10 years even (and since netbooks aren't even that old I think you get my drift), theoretically should run Minecraft at a solid 60 FPS in the vanilla state. The fact we even have to use mods such as OptiFine to maximize the performance is downright pitiful. Even my computer, which is quite a beast (runs Battlefield 3 on Ultra without even dropping below 35 FPS in even the most intense fights) doesn't get maximum performance in Minecraft unless I use Optifine. That in itself is terrible.
It's really time to ditch the Java and rewrite this game in C++. The games potential would quadruple. And the performance would shoot through the roof.
That would meen a complete rewrite of the whole game, which would take months.
But how and where do I find that?
LOL
then press yes.
then click on the display bar.
then you will see your Graphics card name.
Yes, I know, but then what? I don't see any options there to modify any settings.
LOL
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Curse PremiumBro, not to upset you or anything, but these are no where near gaming specs... 4GB is minimum as Windows usually takes up 2GB from all the services it runs. I'm not sure what Pineview is, but I'm assuming this is a laptop or netbook. If Minecraft is your Main thing, I'd save up and build a nice $400 Mini-Desktop to play games on or pay more $$$ to get a Laptop with a Dedicated Graphics card with an Core i3 Processor.
You sir... are not rendering in full screen Minecraft, which everyone plays in. FPS is different when the Window is the size of iPod.
Its a Gateway Laptop. Again, not the best, but at least you have a Pentium and the RAM. Since Minecraft 1.7+ is going to using Shaders, a graphics card is going to be required, if not now, then soon...
Tip for all : Your system should be able to "load balance" whats on the machine. Whether you are a Gamer or not, a graphics card is usually desired in all Consumer applications these days, even to just run the OS and Surf the Web. Like I stated before, I have an i3 and GT 610 (cheapest hardware avail at the time). System runs fine and can play most games for me and my wife on Low / Medium. (examples : LoL + Minecraft). These games run fine because the system has 2x sources of processing to deal with the load. Most Laptops and low end PCs have "built-in" graphics to the processor (Intel HD // Radeon A). This is bad joojoo because the processor not only has to deal with the data load, but the graphical load as well. Minecraft specifically has to render Chunks (65,536 Blocks). 8 Chunks is 524,288 Blocks and every block is an array of data holding values such as : Textures, Animation, Light Data, Block IDs, Blast Resistance, Tool Resistance, Flammability, Placement Parameters, Texture Connection Data, Entity Data, etc. If you multiply those values by 524,288 you are pushing a lot of onDemand Information. So, if you're process has 2 Cores and needs 1 Core to do video, that leaves 1 Core left to deal with Minecraft, Windows, Services and any other applications you are running (Music, Youtube, Systray stuff). In short : You're gonna have a bad time.
Bonus Tip : You can buy an i3/GT micro desktop for about $400 (Tower + Internals). My suggestion is always get the news Sockets for your Motherboard so you can upgrade next time Games decide to crank it up a notch. Recommended Specs to live by :
CPU : Core i3+
MEM : 4GB + (8GB for actual gamers)
VID : GeForce or Radeon with 128-bit Bus Width (Examples GT630 / Radeon 6xxx Series)
HDD : 7200RPM (Size depends on User)
SND : Sound Blaster Go PRO (Not required, but $20 on Amazon to help alleviate the CPU even more)
PSU : 480W (Way overkill, but longevity is higher with super light loads)
"2013-10-27 09:42:04 [INFO] [ForgeModLoader] FML has found a non-mod file OptiFine_1.6.4_HD_U_C6.jar in your mods directory. It will now be injected into your classpath. This could severe stability issues, it should be removed if possible."
Yet, Optifine does not work when I test it in game. Can anyone tell based on this log whether something is going wrong? Thanks.
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Curse PremiumIf you're running 1.7.2, OptiFine has not been updated to that version yet.
I'm still on 1.6.4 and Optifine works if I copy the files straight into the Forge.jar but it won't work as a mod file.
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Curse PremiumAre you running Forge #933?
Not being on a computer I can't say much, but check your computer's control panel.
Um, I have an 8-year old PC with only 2GB RAM, and Minecraft is still playable. Specs:
Windows XP Professional SP3 32-bit
Intel Pentium 4, 3.2GHz
2GB RAM DDR-400
Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT 256MB
I usually play in windowed mode, but fullscreen works too.
No, 935.
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Curse PremiumIt says its compatible with 933. Load 933 and try optifine that way.
That's fine... But those specs are acceptable to play Minecraft. 3.2Ghz vs his 1.8Ghz Processor. Pentium vs Atom? Plus you have an 8500GT. So imagine if you will that these are cars. You have a v6 Engine with a Turbo and he's driving a 4 banger. You can't expect him to go as fast as you.
I usually don't play in fullscreen because it's a hassle when you need to switch to other things while you play, but I get notably higher FPS when I'm in fullscreen, rather than the other way around, contrary to what you say xD
That much I do understand, but can't really do much about the laptop at the moment, since it was a gift from my parents; just so I would have a computer. Thanks for the tip. When I do manage to buy a rig of some sort you could bet it will be a desktop of some kind; maybe not the most advanced, but at least something that will handle better. Haven't had much problems with it really, and thankfully. Usually with the optifine features I usually turn a few things off and not use certain ones. It will work for the time being, but when they do decide to up the ante then I will just have to play the version that I can till I am able to get a better rig.:D
Bump. This is still a problem for me. I have disabled optifine for the time being. I suppose my issue may vanish with the release of optifine 1.7.*, but that is not yet released to my knowledge and the server(s) that I play on are still on 1.6.4
When my computer was down, my dad's AMD Sempron (which is a dual core CPU) and GeForce 5800 struggled to run it at like 20 FPS with all the graphic settings set to fast, which is ridiculous.
I know people keep saying "Derp, buy a faster computer", but that's not where the problem lies. The people having problems understand they don't have the fastest computers in the world. They understand they're not going to pull 300 FPS at 1920x1080 with a 512x512 resolution texture pack and Sonic Ether's Unbelievable Shaders. The problem is any computer -- hell, a netbook made in the past 10 years even (and since netbooks aren't even that old I think you get my drift), theoretically should run Minecraft at a solid 60 FPS in the vanilla state. The fact we even have to use mods such as OptiFine to maximize the performance is downright pitiful. Even my computer, which is quite a beast (runs Battlefield 3 on Ultra without even dropping below 35 FPS in even the most intense fights) doesn't get maximum performance in Minecraft unless I use Optifine. That in itself is terrible.
It's really time to ditch the Java and rewrite this game in C++. The games potential would quadruple. And the performance would shoot through the roof.
Paragraph 3, Sentence 1. Read it. Their point is that Minecraft's performance is awful even on a decent computer. It could be much better.