If you use the MCP toolkit, and look at the classes, the mob behavior is coded in the class EntityMobs and the daytime animal in the class EntityAnimals.
the specific classes for creeper, spider, etc, are based on the EntityMobs class with minor modifications. I guess you can look at that. Also, on the EntityCow class you can see an example of player interaction when the cow gives milk
This is very useful information, thanks for taking the time to share.
I am impressed by your work and am anxiously awaiting the output so I can try writing some animal AI's, I suppose I should just start now by looking at the ones that already exist. Any pointers?
If you use the MCP toolkit, and look at the classes, the mob behavior is coded in the class EntityMobs and the daytime animal in the class EntityAnimals.
the specific classes for creeper, spider, etc, are based on the EntityMobs class with minor modifications. I guess you can look at that. Also, on the EntityCow class you can see an example of player interaction when the cow gives milk
Does this meen that using proper modifications, you could make mobs follow flowers instead of yourself? That could be used as domestication (as I said earlier), and since there is a way to make it interact on right click, you could make an elephant with a chest on it's back that follows flowers so you can guide it?
DrZharc I've spent the evening digging through the Model and Render codes and have a good number of the variables mapped out. Please contact me through the forum, or through the IRC channel (#mcp or #minecraft). I should be able to help you center the muzzle on the lion at the very least. Hopefully we can both tackle this without duplicating too much effort.
Can you please show that the normal animals (pig, sheep etc) are still there.
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Can you please show that the normal animals (pig, sheep etc) are still there.
I deactivated them, so I will encounter my new creatures easily. On the release of the mod, the original creatures will be there. But I see your concern, that I'm not adding new creatures but modifying old ones, no worries, it is real.
I'm waiting forward for this mod.By the way could you maybe make the wolf bear and lion to attack other animals such as sheep cow and pig? Because they are predators afterall :tongue.gif:
Edit:btw what will these new animals drop when killed?
I'm waiting forward for this mod.By the way could you maybe make the wolf bear and lion to attack other animals such as sheep cow and pig? Because they are predators afterall :tongue.gif:
Edit:btw what will these new animals drop when killed?
That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out now, how to make them attack other animals!
I haven't figured out the items they drop
eeing that your working on new mobs, that have they're own skin and possible sounds means you could make some kinda pokemon mod? First one to do that will be the most most popular on this forum i bet! Nice job cant wait till you can get attacked by a pack of wolves keep it up!
Hey, OP, you were wondering about how to put in custom sound files. The guy who did the Battle Music mod talked about how when he tried to do it it was difficult to figure out and I think he said he had to use a modified version of the SoundMod to do it... Maybe you should PM him for tips on how he did it... I'll edit in a link as soon as I dig on up...
Hey, thanks for the heads up. Notch coded already fish in minecraft. Looking at the code, it seems quite long and complex. The only thing missing is a first model I can use as template to create more.
I can't help but wonder what would happen if you simply used an existing model as a place holder for the aquatic mobs.... I realize an underwater pig/sheep/cow would look ludicrous, but couldn't that be a starting point, simply to see what happens? If, theoretically, all that's missing is a "base model", why wouldn't you be able to use an already existing model from elsewhere, just to test it out?
Since I have no familiarity with the code in any way, shape, or form, there could be limitations that I'm unaware of here. As such, is there anything (other than ugliness) to stop you from testing the aquatic mob code using models from something else, just to see the effect?
Please understand that I don't want to be pushy about this (one of the reasons I waited to respond here), but if at all possible, I'm really looking forward to aquatic lifeforms. Obviously, keep up what you're doing. I can wait. Just, please keep it in mind, and give it a look when you can. Thanks in advance.... Mouser X over and out.
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can you say?
how animals behave when they attack
I'm currently working on this. I some animals to attack you back, some animals aggressive and finally animals attacking other animals....
The code is so obscure that figuring out anything takes a long time
Hey, thanks for the heads up. Notch coded already fish in minecraft. Looking at the code, it seems quite long and complex. The only thing missing is a first model I can use as template to create more.
I can't help but wonder what would happen if you simply used an existing model as a place holder for the aquatic mobs.... I realize an underwater pig/sheep/cow would look ludicrous, but couldn't that be a starting point, simply to see what happens? If, theoretically, all that's missing is a "base model", why wouldn't you be able to use an already existing model from elsewhere, just to test it out?
Since I have no familiarity with the code in any way, shape, or form, there could be limitations that I'm unaware of here. As such, is there anything (other than ugliness) to stop you from testing the aquatic mob code using models from something else, just to see the effect?
Please understand that I don't want to be pushy about this (one of the reasons I waited to respond here), but if at all possible, I'm really looking forward to aquatic lifeforms. Obviously, keep up what you're doing. I can wait. Just, please keep it in mind, and give it a look when you can. Thanks in advance.... Mouser X over and out.
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the Code for the fish is perhaps 4 times longer than the other entities. And besides, there is no model to figure out which functions do what. The code was de-obfuscated but still is not descriptive. For example if someone were to code a property, it would be named in a way that you will know what it means i.e.
Mob.Height = XAmount;
the way the code looks now, is more like (just an example, I'm not copying actual code here)
field_3221a.fiel729_e = field_211_b;
So, without anything to use as a template , it takes an inordinate amount of time to figure the fish model. See my point?
the Code for the fish is perhaps 4 times longer than the other entities. And besides, there is no model to figure out which functions do what. The code was de-obfuscated but still is not descriptive. For example if someone were to code a property, it would be named in a way that you will know what it means i.e.
Mob.Height = XAmount;
the way the code looks now, is more like (just an example, I'm not copying actual code here)
field_3221a.fiel729_e = field_211_b;
So, without anything to use as a template , it takes an inordinate amount of time to figure the fish model. See my point?
Yes I do. Well crud. Thanks for explaining it at least. I can now see how the lack of a model would make such a difference. It is possible to build one from scratch, but as you said, it would be guess work at best, and it would take a really long time to do (since it would be through process of elimination as to what does what).
Like I said, keep doing what you're doing. It's awesome, and definitely "opens doors" for other things. Hopefully though, someone will be able to run through the "fish code" eventually, and throw something together. As I said, I can wait. Though, it sounds like Notch might implement actual aquatic mobs before anyone else, due to the guess-and-check-and-crash necessity of the current code base. Either way, thanks for what you've done so far. I'm definitely looking forward to your new animals. Mouser X over and out.
NO!! You cant make a hostile mob spawn during the day!!!!
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This is very useful information, thanks for taking the time to share.
Does this meen that using proper modifications, you could make mobs follow flowers instead of yourself? That could be used as domestication (as I said earlier), and since there is a way to make it interact on right click, you could make an elephant with a chest on it's back that follows flowers so you can guide it?
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Curse PremiumI deactivated them, so I will encounter my new creatures easily. On the release of the mod, the original creatures will be there. But I see your concern, that I'm not adding new creatures but modifying old ones, no worries, it is real.
I'm waiting forward for this mod.By the way could you maybe make the wolf bear and lion to attack other animals such as sheep cow and pig? Because they are predators afterall :tongue.gif:
Edit:btw what will these new animals drop when killed?
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Curse PremiumThat's exactly what I'm trying to figure out now, how to make them attack other animals!
I haven't figured out the items they drop
That bear is just perfect looking. The wolf is a bit weird looking so high res in the face.
Mod of the year, all years, can't wait for the download.
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can you say?
how animals behave when they attack
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I can't help but wonder what would happen if you simply used an existing model as a place holder for the aquatic mobs.... I realize an underwater pig/sheep/cow would look ludicrous, but couldn't that be a starting point, simply to see what happens? If, theoretically, all that's missing is a "base model", why wouldn't you be able to use an already existing model from elsewhere, just to test it out?
Since I have no familiarity with the code in any way, shape, or form, there could be limitations that I'm unaware of here. As such, is there anything (other than ugliness) to stop you from testing the aquatic mob code using models from something else, just to see the effect?
Please understand that I don't want to be pushy about this (one of the reasons I waited to respond here), but if at all possible, I'm really looking forward to aquatic lifeforms. Obviously, keep up what you're doing. I can wait. Just, please keep it in mind, and give it a look when you can. Thanks in advance.... Mouser X over and out.
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the Code for the fish is perhaps 4 times longer than the other entities. And besides, there is no model to figure out which functions do what. The code was de-obfuscated but still is not descriptive. For example if someone were to code a property, it would be named in a way that you will know what it means i.e.
Mob.Height = XAmount;
the way the code looks now, is more like (just an example, I'm not copying actual code here)
field_3221a.fiel729_e = field_211_b;
So, without anything to use as a template , it takes an inordinate amount of time to figure the fish model. See my point?
Yes I do. Well crud. Thanks for explaining it at least. I can now see how the lack of a model would make such a difference. It is possible to build one from scratch, but as you said, it would be guess work at best, and it would take a really long time to do (since it would be through process of elimination as to what does what).
Like I said, keep doing what you're doing. It's awesome, and definitely "opens doors" for other things. Hopefully though, someone will be able to run through the "fish code" eventually, and throw something together. As I said, I can wait. Though, it sounds like Notch might implement actual aquatic mobs before anyone else, due to the guess-and-check-and-crash necessity of the current code base. Either way, thanks for what you've done so far. I'm definitely looking forward to your new animals. Mouser X over and out.