And kids these days are smarter than you think, I knew what I was and wasn't allowed to say at that age :tongue.gif:
You're assuming the children who visit this place are intelligent and articulate enough to understand what is and isn't appropriate. Granted I let my younger brother here and I have no problem with him seeing the swearing because I know he's intelligent enough to understand that when someone says something it doesn't give him permission to say it whenever and disregard the consequences.
It's more of a preventative measure, it's not so much of an issue right now because this place is still rather small, be pre-empting the inevitable growth of minecraft I don't want to turn away potential buyers of minecraft because their parents have seen them on this forum and all the swearing that they don't deem appropriate.
Don't get me wrong, censorship sucks and I really dislike it, but it's about what is and isn't appropriate on a forum where the majority of users are under or around 13.
Where exactly do we force swearing on children anyways? THEY decide to read this forum, not us.
They don't have a choice ergo they're forced. Sure they can quit coming here, but how is that fair? I don't see what the problem is, kids don't have to see swearing and you can, who loses out?
they swear on TV a lot. Sure they can quit watching TV, but how is that fair?
God, either rename the forums to Minefaqs or just stop this madness.
oh wait, "god" is a bad word when used like that. HOW TERRIBLE.
I don't mind people opposing my point of view and I'll often have my opinion changed but really, why do you have to be such a moron about it? Your immaturity shows so much quatro, please if you're going to try and say "No don't do it!" do it properly, don't make silly points that serve as nothing other than an annoyance.
I'd also love you to show me a TV show that is allowed to swear when kids are watching, I'm not sure if your country has a similar system to England but here in England before 9PM you're not allowed to say anything that could be deemed offence or show anything that is sexual, swearing is included in this.
What if you make the censor be on if you have set your age below 9 or you haven't set it at all?
Of course that would make some issues if some under 9 aged are lying their age, but thats their problem.
And some people just don't want to tell their age.
If a user has consciously made an effort to lie about their situation, I can assume they're intelligent enough to understand swearing.
My plan is thus: The censor will be enabled by default, so if you view the forum as a guest - because not everyone registers - you'll see the filter enabled, on the registration page you'll be asked to supply your date of birth, if you set it as 13 or under you'll automatically have the filter enabled, if you set it to over 13 you'll have the option. So quatroking, puyo, whoever, you can enable/disable whenever you like.
I don't see any problems with this, censorship sucks but so does turning away lots of potential users.
isn't appropriate on a forum where the majority of users are under or around 13.
You assume this.
Pics or it didn't happen.
That's your argumentation.
If I upload Porn on rapidshare, is someone forced to view it?
If I upload Nazi music on Last.fm, is someone force to listen to it?
You say yes.
You are wrong.
If Notch sticks porn up on minecraft.net he is forcing users to view it. He doesn't give them a choice, they don't type "minecraft.net" then get presented with "Would you like to view porn?" they get the porn, they had no choice because they could not expect the site to be pornography and had no chance to stop it. The same way if I run up to you in the street and get naked, you're being forced to view my naked body. According to your argument you could just walk away? It doesn't work like that.
Why is this thread still growing?
You've been told repeatedly that there'll be an option. Sounds like it's going to be set up in quite a logical way too. Schokobecher, it's nothing to do with being 'forced' it's more about protecting our younger players.
Stop getting your panties in a twist about something so trivial. Besides, are you really challenged by having to be a little more articulate? Really?
you can't compare Real-Life with internet.
In the internet you can always past it.
Go add a warning a registration and keep the old way things worked..
I am not turning away users because you can't handle some users not being able to see swear words. I am not saying "oh hey, you don't like swear words, haha you can't use this forum!". So, if you don't like the option to choose whether or not words are censored, leave.
I'm quite frankly getting really annoyed by some of you, I don't mind a difference in opinion but the way you approach it is ridiculous. I run this forum on my own time and I have absolutely no responsibility to any of you besides Notch, this forum is treated as the "official" forum and what I do does affect his sales, but I want to make this a good place for people to discuss minecraft and sometimes that requires me to change things to something you might not necessarily like, or I might not like. Take signatures for example, if it was down to me they'd be gone entirely.
We can't always get what we want, but accept the compromise or leave.