Who in their right friggin' mind would get "Scrolls" and "Elder Scrolls" mixed up? I mean, when have you EVER heard of ANYONE calling a TES game by "Elder Scrolls"? NEVER! I always hear them refered to "Morrowind", "Oblivion", "Skyrim". Never do I hear "Hey, you looking forward to The Elder Scrolls 5?" The answer would be, "Which one's #5? I don't know the numbers..". I mean, really hardcore fans would know (like myself), but even then, I call it by the name, not The Elder Scrolls.
Silly Bethesda.. should've gone with the Quake challenge, cause YER GUNNA LOSE!
P.S. I hate DLC's. BRING BACK REAL EXPANSIONS DAMNIT
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There's a lot of misinformation surrounding this. It's not that Bethesda is trying to copyright "Scrolls". It's that they're worried Mojang may be getting into a position to copyright "Scrolls", which could potentially cause Bethesda to lose the rights to "The Elder Scrolls" name.
Of course that doesn't mean I will be boycotting all of Bethesda's products, such as Prey the movie - er, I mean Prey the TV series... oh silly me, no I mean Prey the novel, sorry.
Of course that doesn't mean I will be boycotting all of Bethesda's products, such as Prey the movie - er, I mean Prey the TV series... oh silly me, no I mean Prey the novel, sorry.
But yea seriously, I said that if they followed through with the law suit that i would never do business with them again, was holding off on buying new vegas last 2 months cause waiting for it to either blow over and be a forgotten case, or it to be dropped, but they kept going, so now i have barred their company....anyone care to join me?
Usually on logo infractions an audience get shown a lot of logos and pick up those that are similar without being told which is the one on trial. Frankly with a blink of an eye there is similarity between the logos.
Which Elder Scrolls logo are you referring to? The only logo I can find that's common to multiple elder scrolls game is that diamond shaped dragon they got going since morrowind. I can't really say I see a similarity between that and the scrolls logo.
I am witholding my pre-order of Skyrim until Bethesda makes it clear they have no intention of trying to put out an indie developer for a frivolous lawsuit.
in the name of blocky world. in the name of herobrine. in the name of diamond. in the name OF 128 layers OF FUN.
MOJANG WILL CRUSH THEM FO ALL OF MINECRAFTIA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so help me notch i will pick up the pick and fight for this cause
There's a lot of misinformation surrounding this. It's not that Bethesda is trying to copyright "Scrolls". It's that they're worried Mojang may be getting into a position to copyright "Scrolls", which could potentially cause Bethesda to lose the rights to "The Elder Scrolls" name.
This is true, but what about demanding a "sizeable sum of money" upfront? It's greedy and money-grabbing, through-and-through. Sorry, but whatever the reasoning behind it, it would seem from my point of view, they went the bad PR route of dealing with the issue.
Wow, are they seriously doing this? Because they used the word "scrolls" in a two or three of their games, not a single gaming company is allowed to use the same word. That's just incredibly stupid. But, here's a suggestion to Mojang; call the game "Scroll". Scrolls - "s" = 0 lawsuits.
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There's a lot of misinformation surrounding this. It's not that Bethesda is trying to copyright "Scrolls". It's that they're worried Mojang may be getting into a position to copyright "Scrolls", which could potentially cause Bethesda to lose the rights to "The Elder Scrolls" name.
That's highly unlikely, as Mojang would have just as difficult of a time in trying to get their theoretical copyright of "Scrolls" to stick any more than Bethesda would have trying to enforce that for themselves.
The lawsuit is more an issue of brand awareness than actually trying to copyright a common word exclusively (that's generally gone over fairly poorly in the past). Bethesda, as others have pointed out, are concerned that potential customers might mistake Mojang's upcoming game for one of their own purely by the title, which -- as others have pointed out, both here (where all us fanboys are) and out on the internet in general -- is highly unlikely. Because, even putting aside the fact that people generally don't refer to the Elder Scrolls games as Elder Scrolls games, practically the only other similarity between the two games is that they are both designed to run on a computer. As soon as the trial gets beyond the opening statements and both companies trot out their actual games beyond the simple matter of names, Bethesda has pretty much lost their case that the general public could confuse the two games.
Mojang's counter-offer was one offered in good faith to perhaps help Bethesda avoid the upcoming PR slap they are going to have to deal with (and let's be honest, Mojang could very easily come up with another name anyway if he wanted to at this stage of development... and given the fact that they actually offered to compete against them in one of their own games, he probably had a backup name anyway ;D).
Right now, the PR hit on Bethesda has only been minor, and restricted to the pretty hard-core gamers. Now that the trial is going forward, the worldwide community at large will start to notice, and what will they come away from it with? "Wow, this huge software company is suing these half-dozen guys over in Europe? And these other guy's only other game so far has been made with little blocks...?" Besthesda couldn't have devised a scheme to make themselves out to be real out-of-touch jerks if they had tried.
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I really don't like this at all. Mojang and Bethesda are both awesome companies. Only Bethesda will obviously lose, I mean just for having 'Scrolls' as a title?
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It's not that I hate you, it's just that, if you were on fire and I had water... I would drink it
Mojang will win.
Silly Bethesda.. should've gone with the Quake challenge, cause YER GUNNA LOSE!
P.S. I hate DLC's. BRING BACK REAL EXPANSIONS DAMNIT
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Of course that doesn't mean I will be boycotting all of Bethesda's products, such as Prey the movie - er, I mean Prey the TV series... oh silly me, no I mean Prey the novel, sorry.
Elder not Ender
But yea seriously, I said that if they followed through with the law suit that i would never do business with them again, was holding off on buying new vegas last 2 months cause waiting for it to either blow over and be a forgotten case, or it to be dropped, but they kept going, so now i have barred their company....anyone care to join me?
Which Elder Scrolls logo are you referring to? The only logo I can find that's common to multiple elder scrolls game is that diamond shaped dragon they got going since morrowind. I can't really say I see a similarity between that and the scrolls logo.
MOJANG WILL CRUSH THEM FO ALL OF MINECRAFTIA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so help me notch i will pick up the pick and fight for this cause
This is true, but what about demanding a "sizeable sum of money" upfront? It's greedy and money-grabbing, through-and-through. Sorry, but whatever the reasoning behind it, it would seem from my point of view, they went the bad PR route of dealing with the issue.
A great game developer is being a total idiot.
I hope that they get their asses handed to them in court.
anyway, go Mojang
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Why cant we all just get along we all stole from this game Skyrim Is piratically based off of this game
That's highly unlikely, as Mojang would have just as difficult of a time in trying to get their theoretical copyright of "Scrolls" to stick any more than Bethesda would have trying to enforce that for themselves.
The lawsuit is more an issue of brand awareness than actually trying to copyright a common word exclusively (that's generally gone over fairly poorly in the past). Bethesda, as others have pointed out, are concerned that potential customers might mistake Mojang's upcoming game for one of their own purely by the title, which -- as others have pointed out, both here (where all us fanboys are) and out on the internet in general -- is highly unlikely. Because, even putting aside the fact that people generally don't refer to the Elder Scrolls games as Elder Scrolls games, practically the only other similarity between the two games is that they are both designed to run on a computer. As soon as the trial gets beyond the opening statements and both companies trot out their actual games beyond the simple matter of names, Bethesda has pretty much lost their case that the general public could confuse the two games.
Mojang's counter-offer was one offered in good faith to perhaps help Bethesda avoid the upcoming PR slap they are going to have to deal with (and let's be honest, Mojang could very easily come up with another name anyway if he wanted to at this stage of development... and given the fact that they actually offered to compete against them in one of their own games, he probably had a backup name anyway ;D).
Right now, the PR hit on Bethesda has only been minor, and restricted to the pretty hard-core gamers. Now that the trial is going forward, the worldwide community at large will start to notice, and what will they come away from it with? "Wow, this huge software company is suing these half-dozen guys over in Europe? And these other guy's only other game so far has been made with little blocks...?" Besthesda couldn't have devised a scheme to make themselves out to be real out-of-touch jerks if they had tried.