THAT COMPANY IS A BUNCH OF RAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGEing workers! Ugh IT ISN'T A PROBLEM IF Notch USES THE WORD SCROLLS!!! IT'S AN ITEM!!!!!
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Yes my overwolf time for mc is low.. I just got overwolf.
It's a scary world we live in when people start owning common words. Maybe they should sue Microsoft and Apple for having Scroll bars. Also, I can't tell the difference between an old iPod's Scroll wheel and a video game.
THAT COMPANY IS A BUNCH OF RAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGEing workers! Ugh IT ISN'T A PROBLEM IF Notch USES THE WORD SCROLLS!!! IT'S AN ITEM!!!!!
No Scrolls is a new game coming being made by notch
It's a scary world we live in when people start owning common words. Maybe they should sue Microsoft and Apple for having Scroll bars. Also, I can't tell the difference between an old iPod's Scroll wheel and a video game.
Hmm.
If you cant own words then i could make a game called call of duty black ops and no one could do anything
I'm a fan of The Elder Scrolls , but I do think the whole thing is just stupid. Hopefully things turn out in Mojang's favour.
It is actually a serios problem because scrolls is accctually a game that notch is making along with minecraft and someone could easily mistake the to games apart although most people call it skyrim it could be also called scrolls.
Personally, I think we should notify Softworks Limited about the lawsuit, and suggest that Bethesda Softworks is getting uppity, and maybe they should sue for use of the word "Softworks".
It is just as ridiculous.
I thought you could only sue for use of the words if there was a chance someone might confuse the two products/companies or you are using someone's name. It isn't like Mojang wanted to name it "Younger Scrolls" or "Scrolls: The tale of..." At that point, depending on how he wanted to format the title, I would admit it could be confusing, but not just the word "Scrolls."
The rules of trademark law say, that one company may sue the other if these conditions are met:
- it is selling identical or similar goods/services in an identical/similar business (PC games in this case)
- there is a likelihood of public confusion between the two goods/services.
As we see, there may come some confusion between these trademarks, therefore Bethesda must do what is to be done in such situation - sue the other company.
There isn't really much confusion between the two games, I have never heard anyone, anywhere, refer to the games as "Scrolls". It is usually "Skyrim" or "Oblivion", or the other individual titles. Occasionally the series is refered to as "Elder Scrolls" but that isn't the same as "Scrolls". Someone would have to be really stupid to somehow accidentally buy Mojang's Scrolls instead of Skyrim or any of the other games in the series, and if it's to not lose popularity, they'd be losing more by doing this against a company with such a large fanbase...
One may ask: "Can't they simply go for a friendly talk, become friends and live with these trademarks for the future?"
The answer is: "No, even if Bethesda wanted to."
The thing is, if Bethesda let's Notch copyright the name "Scrolls", Bethesda will LOSE THE RIGHTS to their trademark. It's a fight or lose situation Bethesda is in, and the obvious answer is to fight. And Bethesda would certainly NOT lose their trademark, because in the future, games like "The Ancient Scrolls" may start popping up. If Bethesda would then try to sue such games, it would simply be faced with a question: "Why did you let Mojang pass untouched then?".
Ancient scrolls is closer to Elder Scrolls than Scrolls is. So Bethesda would still be able to sue. And for something called "The Magic Scrolls" or something that still contains Scrolls but the first word doesn't relate to "Elder", they shouldn't be able to sue. There are plenty of other PC games with "scrolls" in their title.
It would appear that Bethesda - developer of numerous popular titles, including the "Elder Scrolls" series of games - is suing Mojang for use of the word "Scrolls" in one of their upcoming projects.
UPDATE NOTE
There seems to be some (understandable) confusion in regards to where the lawsuit is coming from. To clarify, "Bethesda Softworks" (publisher and developer of game titles) and "Bethesda Game Studios" (Creators of games like Oblivion, Skyrim etc.) are not the same entity. BGS is an in-house game-making team led by Todd Howard which is one part of Bethesda Softworks, and has no direct connection to the lawsuit in progress by Bethesda Softworks. Unless further specified by the acronym "BGS", any references to Bethesda in the following article assume "Bethesda Softworks". Sorry about the confusion!
[readmore]
Mojang has been in development of another project (which we went over in our last installment), which bears the working name "Scrolls". Bethesda has expressed concern that players could mix up this new game with their own "Elder Scrolls" series, although the two seem to share no noticeable similarities beyond the word "scrolls".
Notch said that their office received a 15-page cease-and-desist letter, claiming that Mojang would be sued for rights to the word, along with formal requests for legal fees. He went on to say that they are attempting to establish talks with Bethesda regarding the word, to find an amicable solution for both parties. At the time of this writing, there was no available response from Bethesda.
We will continue to update this article as information becomes available.
This is just like when Nintendo tried to copyright the phrase "Its on like Donky Kong".
Come on people! Its ONE WORD! Get over it! Its not like you own the word "Scrolls"! SCROLLS SCROLLS SCROLLS! I Await to be sued.
Those idiots are probably going to lose more money in the PR battle then they really would gain from forcing Mojang to change their game's title. instead of threatening 'lawsuit!' they should have just sent a polite letter and request for the change and the reasoning. That would have gone over so much better.
...sad that we all are boycotting Bethesda for this reason. Get over it, when i get the money I will still get SkyRim, but it's because I support Bethesda Game Studios, not Bethesda Softworks.
Again, let's all be supportive of the actual game makers and not the publishing firm, OK?
Now, I personally like Bethesda, The Elder Scrolls, and Fallout. But they just lost the respect of a lot of people with this. I mean, come on, seriously? Honestly, I didn't think you could own a word. Bethesda doesn't own the word "scrolls." Even if this all started with their lawyers, this is just stupid.
Id like to sugtest that you all calm down.
Bethesda is sueing because if they dont, than in the future an opponent willmpoint this fact out, and say "if they can do it, then so can we!" Its a way for Bethesda to make sure people realise they're not just gunna sit there.
Bethesda knows rhis is a stupid lawsuit- it's simply to keep face in the legal world, lest they be screwed over the next time something serious does happen.
Yes my overwolf time for mc is low.. I just got overwolf.
Hmm.
No Scrolls is a new game coming being made by notch
If you cant own words then i could make a game called call of duty black ops and no one could do anything
It is actually a serios problem because scrolls is accctually a game that notch is making along with minecraft and someone could easily mistake the to games apart although most people call it skyrim it could be also called scrolls.
It is just as ridiculous.
I thought you could only sue for use of the words if there was a chance someone might confuse the two products/companies or you are using someone's name. It isn't like Mojang wanted to name it "Younger Scrolls" or "Scrolls: The tale of..." At that point, depending on how he wanted to format the title, I would admit it could be confusing, but not just the word "Scrolls."
There isn't really much confusion between the two games, I have never heard anyone, anywhere, refer to the games as "Scrolls". It is usually "Skyrim" or "Oblivion", or the other individual titles. Occasionally the series is refered to as "Elder Scrolls" but that isn't the same as "Scrolls". Someone would have to be really stupid to somehow accidentally buy Mojang's Scrolls instead of Skyrim or any of the other games in the series, and if it's to not lose popularity, they'd be losing more by doing this against a company with such a large fanbase...
Ancient scrolls is closer to Elder Scrolls than Scrolls is. So Bethesda would still be able to sue. And for something called "The Magic Scrolls" or something that still contains Scrolls but the first word doesn't relate to "Elder", they shouldn't be able to sue. There are plenty of other PC games with "scrolls" in their title.
Pipes
OH NO!!! im gonna get sued(like i dsayd before)!!! gonna call my lawyer...
Come on people! Its ONE WORD! Get over it! Its not like you own the word "Scrolls"! SCROLLS SCROLLS SCROLLS! I Await to be sued.
Those idiots are probably going to lose more money in the PR battle then they really would gain from forcing Mojang to change their game's title. instead of threatening 'lawsuit!' they should have just sent a polite letter and request for the change and the reasoning. That would have gone over so much better.
Again, let's all be supportive of the actual game makers and not the publishing firm, OK?
Bethesda is sueing because if they dont, than in the future an opponent willmpoint this fact out, and say "if they can do it, then so can we!" Its a way for Bethesda to make sure people realise they're not just gunna sit there.
Bethesda knows rhis is a stupid lawsuit- it's simply to keep face in the legal world, lest they be screwed over the next time something serious does happen.
http://www.youtube.com/user/006ruler