This reminds me when Apple Inc tried too sue the makers of "iPod compatible" hardware that had the letter 'i' before the name (iHome sound system, anyone?). Yes.. Apple attempted too claim rights ON A SINGLE LETTER.
Winning the interim injunction just means they don't have to stop using the name while the case is proceeding. Something like 70% of trademark cases start out with an interim injunction. It's pretty standard to avoid hurting the product while the case is going on.
MeowImDylan: Doubt any of the people in this thread even understand why there was a lawsuit, Mojang wanted to claim the name scrolls in which the paper work said that any adverts/games and other stuff that included the name scrolls meant that Mojang could have the right to sue them, so don't hate on Bethsada, they only did it in defence.
I agree with you, I am seeing the same thing in these comments and in the forums. People seem to be missing what this whole thing is about. Then again, Notch was never really clear about that when he decided to talk about everything going on, instead creating a bunch of fans angry for the wrong reasons.
Guys... The case isn't over.
Winning the interim injunction just means they don't have to stop
using the name while the case is proceeding. Something like 70% of
trademark cases start out with an interim injunction. It's pretty
standard to avoid hurting the product while the case is going on.
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I really don't see why everyone is making Zenimax out to be the bad guy here for defending a potential threat to their IP. You do realize this could cause them to lose the The Elder Scrolls trademark, don't you?
Really I don't think either party is the bad guy here. The problem lies with trademark and copyright laws in general which need serious revision. That's why lawsuits like this happen so often in the first place.
Zenimax wanted to fight this because they "need" to, because the whole "elder scrolls" franchise was on the line.
If you didn't know about this then there's some more info about this thing.
Apparently when Mojang wrote what they want to be trademarked, they made it VERY VERY Vague and very very wide, meaning they want "scrolls" trademark to cover almost EVERYTHING. Even Radios and Television!
This causes Zenimax to react to Mojang's move, forcing them to toss a lawsuit in.
Notch is not your average indie guy, he's cunning and can be quite evil... My friend knows him personally cuz Notch apparently joined his forums years back, got told his game idea won't work, and shooed him away. And that was while Notch wanted to make a "minecraft" like game on a Mirage Source which means a 2D game engine. But Mirage source was owned by a group of people and they don't like someone suggesting sandbox ideas to their MMORPG engine.
Notch may look innocent, but he's very tactile and very strategic in what he plans for his company to do... Too bad most of the time he bites more than he can chew though...
Even for his dragon update, I think Jeb was the one who made that... Notch for one probably can't code or design that well seeing how he made the earlier mobs and re-used the same models for zombies, skeletons, and pigmens, but textured them differently.
Personally I find Jeb to be a professional animator and programmer so in some ways Notch hired the right person for the job anyhow. And it's not like CEO or VP of a company actually does all direct work all the time...
And about this whole trademark ordeal...
80% chance that Mojang can't take it simply because they made the coverage too vague and thus "threatens" pretty much every single franchise that has the word "scrolls" in it.
If you don't know what I mean, think about this:
- If Mojang succeeds, they can sue ANYONE with scrolls in their products, regardless of how the word is used... Like say a tv show called "Scrolls of Time", Mojang Sues, and probably will hurt them.
The lawyers and attorneys are probably loving it though... Whoever works for Mojang's law department, probably did so intentionally to fund itself from lawsuits or something.
They seems to "intend" to want to cause a confusion, over making the trademark clearer.
The problem here is that everyone in this forum might look at the lawsuit and cheer for the underdog, or what it seems like one... A dog with a rocket launcher that is.
I am so glad at least some people get it. Even Notch doesn't seem to. An injunction is just an immediate ruling to temporarily suspend the offending activity. The judge didn't seem to agree it was necessary, but that doesn't settle the lawsuit. It could still be a problem once the full case is presented.
I've been waiting for some time to hear some news on this completely ridiculous pursuit by bethesdas' lawyers. I've played all of the elder scrolls released so far and it's pretty obvious even to a new gamer that both the games are quite a bit different from each other. Betheda's lawyers have no right to sue mojang, especially with a case as pathetic as this.
I can't even understand why this started in the first place.
I'm so glad most of the people here are too young to vote.
Interim injunction: an order for a party to commit or cease an activity during the pendancy of a case.
Basically:
Zeni Lawyers: Mojang should stop using Scrolls during this case until a verdict is decided.
Mojang Lawyer: No we shouldn't.
Court: Meh, it's not hurting anybody right now. They can use it until the case is over.
Zeni Lawyers: Alright. Let's continue.
Notch: WOOOO WE WON!
Mojang Lawyer: *facepalm*
Fanbase: GOOOOOOO NOTCH!!! WE KNEW YOU'D WIN!
Anyone with basic comprehension skills: *facepalm*
1)It's ZeniMax, not Bethesda. And actaully, it's ZeniMax's layers, not even ZeniMax themselves.
2)It's a temporary injuncton, not the suit as a whole.
3)This has all been said bfeore countless times, so I'm probably wasting my time writing this.
4)An e-cookie to anyone who reads this thing carefully and can tell me the major points of this post and at least 3 speeling mistakes.
5)No matter how big Mojang is now, they're still the underdog by virtue of being an indie developer.
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Winning the interim injunction just means they don't have to stop using the name while the case is proceeding. Something like 70% of trademark cases start out with an interim injunction. It's pretty standard to avoid hurting the product while the case is going on.
I agree with you, I am seeing the same thing in these comments and in the forums. People seem to be missing what this whole thing is about. Then again, Notch was never really clear about that when he decided to talk about everything going on, instead creating a bunch of fans angry for the wrong reasons.
Guys... The case isn't over.
Winning the interim injunction just means they don't have to stop
using the name while the case is proceeding. Something like 70% of
trademark cases start out with an interim injunction. It's pretty
standard to avoid hurting the product while the case is going on.
Really I don't think either party is the bad guy here. The problem lies with trademark and copyright laws in general which need serious revision. That's why lawsuits like this happen so often in the first place.
If you didn't know about this then there's some more info about this thing.
Apparently when Mojang wrote what they want to be trademarked, they made it VERY VERY Vague and very very wide, meaning they want "scrolls" trademark to cover almost EVERYTHING. Even Radios and Television!
This causes Zenimax to react to Mojang's move, forcing them to toss a lawsuit in.
Notch is not your average indie guy, he's cunning and can be quite evil... My friend knows him personally cuz Notch apparently joined his forums years back, got told his game idea won't work, and shooed him away. And that was while Notch wanted to make a "minecraft" like game on a Mirage Source which means a 2D game engine. But Mirage source was owned by a group of people and they don't like someone suggesting sandbox ideas to their MMORPG engine.
Notch may look innocent, but he's very tactile and very strategic in what he plans for his company to do... Too bad most of the time he bites more than he can chew though...
Even for his dragon update, I think Jeb was the one who made that... Notch for one probably can't code or design that well seeing how he made the earlier mobs and re-used the same models for zombies, skeletons, and pigmens, but textured them differently.
Personally I find Jeb to be a professional animator and programmer so in some ways Notch hired the right person for the job anyhow. And it's not like CEO or VP of a company actually does all direct work all the time...
And about this whole trademark ordeal...
80% chance that Mojang can't take it simply because they made the coverage too vague and thus "threatens" pretty much every single franchise that has the word "scrolls" in it.
If you don't know what I mean, think about this:
- If Mojang succeeds, they can sue ANYONE with scrolls in their products, regardless of how the word is used... Like say a tv show called "Scrolls of Time", Mojang Sues, and probably will hurt them.
The lawyers and attorneys are probably loving it though... Whoever works for Mojang's law department, probably did so intentionally to fund itself from lawsuits or something.
They seems to "intend" to want to cause a confusion, over making the trademark clearer.
The problem here is that everyone in this forum might look at the lawsuit and cheer for the underdog, or what it seems like one... A dog with a rocket launcher that is.
I can't even understand why this started in the first place.
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Interim injunction: an order for a party to commit or cease an activity during the pendancy of a case.
Basically:
Zeni Lawyers: Mojang should stop using Scrolls during this case until a verdict is decided.
Mojang Lawyer: No we shouldn't.
Court: Meh, it's not hurting anybody right now. They can use it until the case is over.
Zeni Lawyers: Alright. Let's continue.
Notch: WOOOO WE WON!
Mojang Lawyer: *facepalm*
Fanbase: GOOOOOOO NOTCH!!! WE KNEW YOU'D WIN!
Anyone with basic comprehension skills: *facepalm*
2)It's a temporary injuncton, not the suit as a whole.
3)This has all been said bfeore countless times, so I'm probably wasting my time writing this.
4)An e-cookie to anyone who reads this thing carefully and can tell me the major points of this post and at least 3 speeling mistakes.
5)No matter how big Mojang is now, they're still the underdog by virtue of being an indie developer.
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