-Now the forums will get flooded with 12-year-old Halo and CoD fans!!!!!111!1!!!
It already is, you ignorant dumbshits. I can bet you that 70% of the users on this forum are under the age of 17. Any time you see someone post something to the effect of "kool mOdz!!1! her iz 4 u!!!" chances are that their testicles haven't descended more than a millimeter and that they play first person shooters all the time. Also, the assumption that everyone, or even a sizeable fraction, of people on Xbox Live are like this has no merit and is simply ignorance and dumb****ery.
This. Exactly this. The other day I saw a post for someone trying to start a Let's Play. He posted his age as 10, set the age requirement for applicants at "8+". When I saw the thread he had two other applicants (12 and 14) and they were desperately seeking someone who could host a server and record the LP.
If anything the Xbox release would skew the younger end of the fanbase a little bit further into the early teens.
Does anyone know if this counts as one of the "updates for life" for people who bought pre beta?
Im pretty excited about this. I dont think it will affect the PC version at all. I have had a great time with the community. I dont think MineCraft is dead and Notch is not a sell-out. He is dedicated to coding and developing his work. He is doing what he needs to to better his company and get more resources and connections to do even more things.
The worry about opening hell's gates for the flood of 12-year-old whiners into the Minecraft world is unfounded. What makes you think that there are more kids that own 360's then adults? What makes you think it's any different from the PC? About the only thing this will do is double the audience with the exact same child-to-adult ratio community intact.
Personally, I think there's already far too many whiners in the community than I can personally stand, as evidenced by this thread.
Why.. Notch.. why... this is such a horrible mistake...
why... just.. why... i hope the console ****s don't get access to the forums or find out about it.
This is the worst Minecraft news I've ever heard.
No, it's not. Your dumb.
I just got access so now what? You think your tough talking about another video game system. Your idiotic and should have your account t deleted. All the people like you that are so selfish
Why is nearly everyone such a PC extremist? Quit being butthurt and respect notch's decisions. You think we're some different species or something... I don't get why you take this stuff so seriously. Especially when it's not affecting you at all.
OH MAN. All of you who are computer freaks are living in a bubble world. there are other things to play games on besides the computer.half the time the console is better, except when it comes to games that are good for modding. Also, you people are hating microsoft, I bet you are playing on windows RIGHT now. I for one am this: I own a 360, play portal halo CoD oblivion fallout etc, I own a Wii, I hate and i Love microsoft, I own and play videogames on my macbook, using a windows. OPEN YOUR EYES. The videogame world does NOT revolve around you. shitttt guys seriously, I used to think the people who played minecraft were the correct kind of people, but now you are THE SAME as a console fanboy. Do us all a favor, and STFU. Notch is awesome. /rant
I don't even know where to start with you lot. The amount of fanboyism and sheer general stupidity that I just had to read through is nothing short of baffling. So to start off, a word from Captain Obvious:
Ah, much better. Now let's just go through this step by step:
BAWWWWW NOTCH IS STRETCHING HIMSELF THIN BY WORKING ON TWO MINECRAFTS
Not only is the 360 version being built by a completely seperate team with superficial, if any, involvement from Notch himself, it isn't even due to release until the PC version is out of Beta and in full release anyway. So how exactly does this affect the development of the main game when both versions are developed parrelel and encapsulated from each other by different dev teams? I know I'm not the only one who's said this, and not a single person has brought up a legitmate counterpoint yet. More to the point, it's a ****ing straight port. How can any dev time be lost simply by copy-pasting the existing code onto a different platform?
BAWWWW I NEED TO BUY AN OVERPRICED MOTION PERIPHERAL TO PLAY THIS
No, you ****ing don't. Perhaps if you had an attention span capable of outclassing a goldfish you might have noticed that that Kinect usage is strictly optional, rendering your entire argument invalid right from the start. At best, it creates an aiming and block-placing control scheme with more sensitivity than a control stick and comparable sensitivity to a computer mouse, and at worst, it creates a gimmicky mess that the player can choose to avoid in favour of tried-and-true FPS pad controls anyway. There is literally not a single ounce of harm created in the process, at least of the unavoidable kind.
BAWWWW CONSOLE PORT WILL FLOOD THE BOARDS WITH HALOFAGS
Thanks, CO.
Now see, there's this thing called a "target audience", which you lot either spontaneously forgot with your newfound 3 second memory, or lack knowledge of in the first place and as such, have absolutely no standing to make a statement of that kind. Are you people really so stupid that I have to explain this to you? Well okay, here's the simple version. What exactly is Halo about? Guns, war, aliens, doomsday devices and Michael Bay amounts of explosions. Does Minecraft have guns, war, aliens, doomsday devices and Michael Bay amounts of explosions? No? Then shut the **** up. Halo and Minecraft are built in mind for completely different audiences, and most people from one will likely only have a passing interest in the other at best, and that's completely ignoring the fact that this view of gun seekers and massive cussers is an amazingly hypocritical generalization when you consider it's you guys bitching like it's the end of the world just because more people get to play your favourite game. Which brings me to my next point.
BAWWWWW MINECRAFT SHOULD ONLY BE ON PC
Minecraft is getting a wider audience. Which leads to Minecraft gaining an increased monetary income and broader critical reception. Which leads to further tweaks and additions to the existing game. There is not a single bad thing about this in any objective sense, what the **** is wrong with you guys. Hey, fun fact - I hail from the Sonic fanbase. Yeah, you know, those same crazy guys who complain about green eyes, sticky walls, and the most minor aesthetic details imaginable? Well, as petty as it is, those things do in fact make some form of difference, however unnoticable or microscopic - this makes zero difference. ZERO. ZILCH. NADA. NIL. NIX. ABSOLUTELY ****ING NONE. This does not change the game you play in any matter at all, concievable or otherwise, and you should feel very bad for even thinking games work that way, you strange, strange person.
BAWWWWW NOTCH HAS BECOME MICROSOFT'S *****
Developing for a gaming platform makes you their *****? What kind of distant planet did you grow up from to consider that kind of bizarre, ass-backwards logic normal? Because Notch made Minecraft for the PC, does that make him Bill Gates's *****? Does it make him Sony's ***** for developing on a Sony platform? Does it make him Apple's ***** because someone ported it to an iPod? Captain Obvious says no.
Once again, a fundemental (and extremely basic) concept of game design is completely lost on you people, leading to a plethora of hilariously uninformed and downright retarded rebuttals in this thread alone. This time, it's licensing. Let me pose you a simple question - if someone makes a franchise on a platform, does it make the franchise the owner of the platform owner? If you answered anything other than "no" or "conditional", do the world's population a favour - find the nearest sharp object immediately and decapitate yourself with it, because you have proven yourself to be an abortion of basic intelligence that is probably contagious to everyone around you. No, Microsoft doesn't have to own a brand just for it to appear on its consoles - hell, ****ing Nintendo could release a Mario game on it if they felt like it (of course, they won't, because that would draw attention away from their own console).
The only way this statement could turn out to be true would involve Notch selling off the brand entirely, but that would include letting go of a million-dollar franchise and selling out everyone on Mojang staff, and Notch would have to be even dumber than you guys to pull that kind of stunt. I can assure you, he isn't. Even you know this.
BAWWWWW NO MODS
The only other legitimate complaint in the entire thread, next to shafting the PS3. Of course, there is no evidence to suggest mods can't be done on consoles (UT3 on consoles was openly built with mod support in mind, for example), and even if that weren't the case, there's nothing stopping you from sticking with your current PC version if it really means that much to you. Seriously, man. This doesn't affect you if you don't buy two versions of the same game, and nobody's forcing you to.
Not to mention it's entirely speculative as of right now - we don't know what their stance is concerning the 360 version and modded content. For all we know the upcoming mod API might solve all that.
And now for closing arguments, here's one last huzzah from Captain Obvious:
Minecraft should be a pc exclusive game considering how hard its going to be navigating inventory and whatnot on xbox.
It's Kinect-enabled for a reason. Even that said, navigating a menu with a control stick isn't terribly hard or time consuming. Frankly I fail to see why console gamers shouldn't have access to a Minecraft game solely on the basis of minor inconvenience, as if the entire FPS genre hasn't already worked well enough to still be playable on it.
I can understand the fascination about wanting Minecraft to be played on Kinect but think about this: Wouldn't you rather be playing it with a WiiMote or a PS3 Move controller... I think that 1st person games are much more fluid of those types of controllers than a camera(All be it very sophisticated one). Lets have a discussion and maybe persuade some devs to help on at least a PS3 version... since it's like pulling teeth trying to get Nintendo to sign off on ANYTHING >:(
You guys are acting silly! PS3 users, the Kinect is much more sophisticated than the Move or the Wii, a controller would just make it worse. Adding to that, Microsoft got to Notch first! Deal With It!
Nobody got to Notch first. It's much easier to port from the PC platform (Windows especially) to XBox than it is the PS3. Though, this is in Java but maybe the same still applies.
Minecraft was not sold to a big corporation. It's still indie. Did you happen to notice the Indie Games section of the Games Marketplace on XBLA? It's just a platform port. Microsoft has no control over Mojang anymore than it does any other big name game developer.
And it's exclusive to XBox right now but who's to say that it will stay that way? Give it time and it'll probably be on PSN as well.
This. Exactly this. The other day I saw a post for someone trying to start a Let's Play. He posted his age as 10, set the age requirement for applicants at "8+". When I saw the thread he had two other applicants (12 and 14) and they were desperately seeking someone who could host a server and record the LP.
If anything the Xbox release would skew the younger end of the fanbase a little bit further into the early teens.
Im pretty excited about this. I dont think it will affect the PC version at all. I have had a great time with the community. I dont think MineCraft is dead and Notch is not a sell-out. He is dedicated to coding and developing his work. He is doing what he needs to to better his company and get more resources and connections to do even more things.
Personally, I think there's already far too many whiners in the community than I can personally stand, as evidenced by this thread.
What has Notch done to you exactly?
So, you don't think it should be on Windows either?
No, it's not. Your dumb.
I just got access so now what? You think your tough talking about another video game system. Your idiotic and should have your account t deleted. All the people like you that are so selfish
Why is nearly everyone such a PC extremist? Quit being butthurt and respect notch's decisions. You think we're some different species or something... I don't get why you take this stuff so seriously. Especially when it's not affecting you at all.
You can use the controller.
Why does no one seem to understand this?
Ah, much better. Now let's just go through this step by step:
Not only is the 360 version being built by a completely seperate team with superficial, if any, involvement from Notch himself, it isn't even due to release until the PC version is out of Beta and in full release anyway. So how exactly does this affect the development of the main game when both versions are developed parrelel and encapsulated from each other by different dev teams? I know I'm not the only one who's said this, and not a single person has brought up a legitmate counterpoint yet. More to the point, it's a ****ing straight port. How can any dev time be lost simply by copy-pasting the existing code onto a different platform?
No, you ****ing don't. Perhaps if you had an attention span capable of outclassing a goldfish you might have noticed that that Kinect usage is strictly optional, rendering your entire argument invalid right from the start. At best, it creates an aiming and block-placing control scheme with more sensitivity than a control stick and comparable sensitivity to a computer mouse, and at worst, it creates a gimmicky mess that the player can choose to avoid in favour of tried-and-true FPS pad controls anyway. There is literally not a single ounce of harm created in the process, at least of the unavoidable kind.
Thanks, CO.
Now see, there's this thing called a "target audience", which you lot either spontaneously forgot with your newfound 3 second memory, or lack knowledge of in the first place and as such, have absolutely no standing to make a statement of that kind. Are you people really so stupid that I have to explain this to you? Well okay, here's the simple version. What exactly is Halo about? Guns, war, aliens, doomsday devices and Michael Bay amounts of explosions. Does Minecraft have guns, war, aliens, doomsday devices and Michael Bay amounts of explosions? No? Then shut the **** up. Halo and Minecraft are built in mind for completely different audiences, and most people from one will likely only have a passing interest in the other at best, and that's completely ignoring the fact that this view of gun seekers and massive cussers is an amazingly hypocritical generalization when you consider it's you guys bitching like it's the end of the world just because more people get to play your favourite game. Which brings me to my next point.
Minecraft is getting a wider audience. Which leads to Minecraft gaining an increased monetary income and broader critical reception. Which leads to further tweaks and additions to the existing game. There is not a single bad thing about this in any objective sense, what the **** is wrong with you guys. Hey, fun fact - I hail from the Sonic fanbase. Yeah, you know, those same crazy guys who complain about green eyes, sticky walls, and the most minor aesthetic details imaginable? Well, as petty as it is, those things do in fact make some form of difference, however unnoticable or microscopic - this makes zero difference. ZERO. ZILCH. NADA. NIL. NIX. ABSOLUTELY ****ING NONE. This does not change the game you play in any matter at all, concievable or otherwise, and you should feel very bad for even thinking games work that way, you strange, strange person.
Developing for a gaming platform makes you their *****? What kind of distant planet did you grow up from to consider that kind of bizarre, ass-backwards logic normal? Because Notch made Minecraft for the PC, does that make him Bill Gates's *****? Does it make him Sony's ***** for developing on a Sony platform? Does it make him Apple's ***** because someone ported it to an iPod? Captain Obvious says no.
Once again, a fundemental (and extremely basic) concept of game design is completely lost on you people, leading to a plethora of hilariously uninformed and downright retarded rebuttals in this thread alone. This time, it's licensing. Let me pose you a simple question - if someone makes a franchise on a platform, does it make the franchise the owner of the platform owner? If you answered anything other than "no" or "conditional", do the world's population a favour - find the nearest sharp object immediately and decapitate yourself with it, because you have proven yourself to be an abortion of basic intelligence that is probably contagious to everyone around you. No, Microsoft doesn't have to own a brand just for it to appear on its consoles - hell, ****ing Nintendo could release a Mario game on it if they felt like it (of course, they won't, because that would draw attention away from their own console).
The only way this statement could turn out to be true would involve Notch selling off the brand entirely, but that would include letting go of a million-dollar franchise and selling out everyone on Mojang staff, and Notch would have to be even dumber than you guys to pull that kind of stunt. I can assure you, he isn't. Even you know this.
The only other legitimate complaint in the entire thread, next to shafting the PS3. Of course, there is no evidence to suggest mods can't be done on consoles (UT3 on consoles was openly built with mod support in mind, for example), and even if that weren't the case, there's nothing stopping you from sticking with your current PC version if it really means that much to you. Seriously, man. This doesn't affect you if you don't buy two versions of the same game, and nobody's forcing you to.
Not to mention it's entirely speculative as of right now - we don't know what their stance is concerning the 360 version and modded content. For all we know the upcoming mod API might solve all that.
And now for closing arguments, here's one last huzzah from Captain Obvious:
It's Kinect-enabled for a reason. Even that said, navigating a menu with a control stick isn't terribly hard or time consuming. Frankly I fail to see why console gamers shouldn't have access to a Minecraft game solely on the basis of minor inconvenience, as if the entire FPS genre hasn't already worked well enough to still be playable on it.
Didn't you read the ****ing new post?
They said they will add it to xbox when it's done.
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Curse PremiumMinecraft was not sold to a big corporation. It's still indie. Did you happen to notice the Indie Games section of the Games Marketplace on XBLA? It's just a platform port. Microsoft has no control over Mojang anymore than it does any other big name game developer.
And it's exclusive to XBox right now but who's to say that it will stay that way? Give it time and it'll probably be on PSN as well.