I'd still like for Lewis to explain himself a little while he was on stage, as I'm sure that could be a reason why Notch was rather upset.
Other than that, yes, it was a misunderstanding. I thank them for being so kind and mature about it.
Forgive and forget, right?
Nope. People are still making horrible comments to Notch. Way to go, people.
If you pay attention, the Yogscast still doesn't hate Notch.
It's obvious that Notch doesn't want people hating on Yogscast and Yogscast doesn't want people hating on Notch. It's an obvious misunderstanding and it's obvious that a first minecon = bad organization & communication. Should've seen it coming as it's always there.
Just remember that Notch is a HUMAN. And humans = mistakes. Mistakes are a part of life. Deal with it.
Depending on the details, it's Mojang's right to sell the rights to a video if they choose to. Just like your bank can sell your mortgage to another bank, if it's allowed by the contract. And they can sell it to another bank, and they can sell it to another, and on, and on. Unless they specified that it could not be sold, it's Mojang's right to sell it.
The yogcast make their living with their videos, so not only did they spent quite a lot of money getting to minecon. somebody from Mojang (blaming everything on Notch is unfair, i doubt he organized everything solo) gave them a nice "**** you" by selling off their income without talking about it with them.
I never got the whole cult like behavior around Notch (or Lewis and Simon for that matter), he made a great game. But to be honest, besides the tweets about minecraft (bugfixes/new stuff) i couldn't give a rats ass about what he thinks. Likewise i have no interrest in the yogcast except for the videos that entertain me. This drama was fun for me, because i'm always amazed about how insane fanboys can get.
And so the Minecraft Community was at peace once more.
Hopefully ._.
Not yet, have to knock some sense into people before you can do that, and I'm sure you know how hard that can be. e_e I just find it amusing to try anyway! Yay!
I'd still like for Lewis to explain himself a little while he was on stage, as I'm sure that could be a reason why Notch was rather upset.
Other than that, yes, it was a misunderstanding. I thank them for being so kind and mature about it.
Forgive and forget, right?
Nope. People are still making horrible comments to Notch. Way to go, people.
If you pay attention, the Yogscast still doesn't hate Notch.
It's obvious that Notch doesn't want people hating on Yogscast and Yogscast doesn't want people hating on Notch. It's an obvious misunderstanding and it's obvious that a first minecon = bad organization & communication. Should've seen it coming as it's always there.
Just remember that Notch is a HUMAN. And humans = mistakes. Mistakes are a part of life. Deal with it.
Honest to god this is exactly what I saw coming. Notch most likely got second hand information from tired people, and responded tiredly on twitter, causing an uproar. Is order to keep from making it worse, Yogscast waited and told the story calmly and peacefully, trying to calm things down. Instead, what happens? It all just gets worse.
Honest to god this is exactly what I saw coming. Notch most likely got second hand information from tired people, and responded tiredly on twitter, causing an uproar. Is order to keep from making it worse, Yogscast waited and told the story calmly and peacefully, trying to calm things down. Instead, what happens? It all just gets worse.
I wanted to say that since the Yogscast said they only ever saw/talked to each other during the interview, but I somehow forgot during my post. Lol
He did say "We also learned...", which gives me an idea of that as well, a little.
It will get worse, but that's for the people that made sides in the first place.
I doubt things will get worse. Yogscast responded very well so all we need to see is notch's response. Haters do not need to hate anymore. Instead go and play minecraft xD
I wanted to say that since the Yogscast said they only ever saw/talked to each other during the interview, but I somehow forgot during my post. Lol
He did say "We also learned...", which gives me an idea of that as well, a little.
It will get worse, but that's for the people that made sides in the first place.
Ill admit, as a pretty big fan of the Yogscast, I was a little biased to their side pretty much from the get-go, but I figured that it was a misunderstanding and that it would be sorted out pretty quick. I never thought that Notch was just being a **** or anything. A lot of people didnt, I hope.
Well as an Englishman I don't see the point in being British if only the English are prepared to uphold it. We are the 85% of the UK, official nationality should be English.
The sheer amount of ignorance in that comment is so stunning that I actually dont know how to reply to it. Its really just astounding.
Ill admit, as a pretty big fan of the Yogscast, I was a little biased to their side pretty much from the get-go, but I figured that it was a misunderstanding and that it would be sorted out pretty quick. I never thought that Notch was just being a **** or anything. A lot of people didnt, I hope.
I hope.
Ye can only hope. Just got some ice cream for this, though, as I'm hopeful that Yogscast and Notch will make up, kiss up, and forgive. d:
I felt he was going a bit too far on his opinion about Vanilla minecraft and how he kept going for the Yogbox and how it was much better than vanilla Minecraft, giving a very large and stretched out explanation (the cheese sandwich one) to show their crowd how much better it was. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind if Lewis opinionated that the Yogbox was better than vanilla, but it seemed as though he was acting as if he knew it was, and not everyone will agree with him. (Just a (true) example:) There are mods in the Yogbox that I don't enjoy.
I just feel that someone secondhand told Notch about this to him or maybe Notch saw it himself and didn't like how they treated his game.
Another thing is how they were talking bad about the ending of Minecraft vanilla, though can't think of any other reasons at the top of my head.
If anything it's not really that bad to me, just would like to know why.
Yogscast response to Notch's Twitterings (self.Minecraft)
submitted 59 minutes ago by SimonHoneydew
We’re sure many of you have seen or heard about Notch’s post-Minecon tweets, which were not what we expected to see when we got off the plane from Minecon – we’ve had a sleep now and recovered a bit, so this is our response:
We are very disappointed by these tweets from someone we admire and respect. We can understand that it was the morning after the deadmau5 party and Notch was very tired, but we are still fairly upset. The quotes and actions that Notch attributed to us were not said by us or published anywhere by us. Therefore we are surprised and confused about where this stuff has come from - especially since the only time we spoke to Notch was at the interview.
Regarding dropping f-bombs at the show - we apologise for this, but had rehearsed the whole show in front of the organisers and half of Mojang and they had approved it. We were given no guidelines or oversight in the weeks leading up to Minecon and there were ample opportunities at the rehearsal for Mojang to inform us of problems, such as being careful about swearing, which is pretty common in our youtube videos.
Out of all the tweets that Notch sent out, most hurtful was the accusation that we told a kid to “**** off” and crossed out another signature – which is something we would never ever do.
We loved spending time with fans and were overwhelmed by how many people were there to support us and give us gifts. Simon has enough Jaffas to last him until the middle of 2012. The problem was that Minecon is a new show and organisation was pretty bad, and when we came to the scheduled signing sessions, nothing had been set up for us and we had to scrabble around to fetch tables, ropes and pens ourselves. With some younger kids around, it was our priority to make sure everything was safe, as we have seen injuries in the past.
This lack of organization contributed to long and confused lines and we were heartbroken to have to turn away so many people when we ran out of time. Simon can only handle a certain amount of time between cups of coffee and nicotine tablets before collapsing, but we made a real effort to get out there and managed to do about six hours of signing. Although we were frustrated, we would never have treated fans in the way that Notch suggested we did.
We were also unhappy and surprised that a week before Minecon, Mojang informed us that they had sold the rights to livestream our show and content to IGN – they hadn’t asked us, they hadn’t spoken to us – they just sold it. Because of this, we nearly cancelled the trip, but decided to say “balls to it” and come anyway, because we felt we owed it to the fans. Hannah actually spoke with IGN directly earlier, and they agreed to take their video down and let us put the videos up on our channel, so a big thanks to them for that.
We were not paid, and never demanded to be paid. We asked for some support, and Mojang said they could offer us two hotel rooms for the duration of the stay and a small boardroom to rest in. We spent a huge amount of money on flights, rooms, food and equipment for the 10 people that we brought along to support us, act as security, make videos/posts and generally help out. We also gave away 100 special t-shirts for free.
The reason we came to Minecon is because we wanted to thank you guys and meet the community that we love and are a part of. We couldn’t have gotten to where we are now without you guys, and so we decided to eat the costs of attending and just have fun. This is why we spent our panel giving a voice to loads of talented people that couldn’t attend but have made Minecraft what it is today.
We’re not gonna stop making videos, not going to stop loving you guys, and hopefully we’ll see you at more gaming conventions in the future.
Lewis & Simon & Hannah
EDIT: Video linking to this post see, it is really me after all. Hi mother!
Other than that, yes, it was a misunderstanding. I thank them for being so kind and mature about it.
Forgive and forget, right?
Nope. People are still making horrible comments to Notch. Way to go, people.
If you pay attention, the Yogscast still doesn't hate Notch.
It's obvious that Notch doesn't want people hating on Yogscast and Yogscast doesn't want people hating on Notch. It's an obvious misunderstanding and it's obvious that a first minecon = bad organization & communication. Should've seen it coming as it's always there.
Just remember that Notch is a HUMAN. And humans = mistakes. Mistakes are a part of life. Deal with it.
The yogcast make their living with their videos, so not only did they spent quite a lot of money getting to minecon. somebody from Mojang (blaming everything on Notch is unfair, i doubt he organized everything solo) gave them a nice "**** you" by selling off their income without talking about it with them.
I never got the whole cult like behavior around Notch (or Lewis and Simon for that matter), he made a great game. But to be honest, besides the tweets about minecraft (bugfixes/new stuff) i couldn't give a rats ass about what he thinks. Likewise i have no interrest in the yogcast except for the videos that entertain me. This drama was fun for me, because i'm always amazed about how insane fanboys can get.
Not yet, have to knock some sense into people before you can do that, and I'm sure you know how hard that can be. e_e I just find it amusing to try anyway! Yay!
Drama was bound to happen, lol, happens in almost every community.
Thank GOD someone understands! Man, I thought I was gonna lose it! +1 for you, mate.
Plus (MOST) guys =/= organization.
Honest to god this is exactly what I saw coming. Notch most likely got second hand information from tired people, and responded tiredly on twitter, causing an uproar. Is order to keep from making it worse, Yogscast waited and told the story calmly and peacefully, trying to calm things down. Instead, what happens? It all just gets worse.
So does that mean they should get some credit for 'pushing him into the right direction'? Lol...
I wanted to say that since the Yogscast said they only ever saw/talked to each other during the interview, but I somehow forgot during my post. Lol
He did say "We also learned...", which gives me an idea of that as well, a little.
It will get worse, but that's for the people that made sides in the first place.
Ill admit, as a pretty big fan of the Yogscast, I was a little biased to their side pretty much from the get-go, but I figured that it was a misunderstanding and that it would be sorted out pretty quick. I never thought that Notch was just being a **** or anything. A lot of people didnt, I hope.
I hope.
The sheer amount of ignorance in that comment is so stunning that I actually dont know how to reply to it. Its really just astounding.
Ye can only hope. Just got some ice cream for this, though, as I'm hopeful that Yogscast and Notch will make up, kiss up, and forgive. d:
Explain about what? I saw nothing unusual.
I felt he was going a bit too far on his opinion about Vanilla minecraft and how he kept going for the Yogbox and how it was much better than vanilla Minecraft, giving a very large and stretched out explanation (the cheese sandwich one) to show their crowd how much better it was. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind if Lewis opinionated that the Yogbox was better than vanilla, but it seemed as though he was acting as if he knew it was, and not everyone will agree with him. (Just a (true) example:) There are mods in the Yogbox that I don't enjoy.
I just feel that someone secondhand told Notch about this to him or maybe Notch saw it himself and didn't like how they treated his game.
Another thing is how they were talking bad about the ending of Minecraft vanilla, though can't think of any other reasons at the top of my head.
If anything it's not really that bad to me, just would like to know why.
Original post here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/mnau9/yogscast_response_to_notchs_twitterings/
Video that refers to the post:
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Yogscast response to Notch's Twitterings (self.Minecraft)
submitted 59 minutes ago by SimonHoneydew
We’re sure many of you have seen or heard about Notch’s post-Minecon tweets, which were not what we expected to see when we got off the plane from Minecon – we’ve had a sleep now and recovered a bit, so this is our response:
We are very disappointed by these tweets from someone we admire and respect. We can understand that it was the morning after the deadmau5 party and Notch was very tired, but we are still fairly upset. The quotes and actions that Notch attributed to us were not said by us or published anywhere by us. Therefore we are surprised and confused about where this stuff has come from - especially since the only time we spoke to Notch was at the interview.
Regarding dropping f-bombs at the show - we apologise for this, but had rehearsed the whole show in front of the organisers and half of Mojang and they had approved it. We were given no guidelines or oversight in the weeks leading up to Minecon and there were ample opportunities at the rehearsal for Mojang to inform us of problems, such as being careful about swearing, which is pretty common in our youtube videos.
Out of all the tweets that Notch sent out, most hurtful was the accusation that we told a kid to “**** off” and crossed out another signature – which is something we would never ever do.
We loved spending time with fans and were overwhelmed by how many people were there to support us and give us gifts. Simon has enough Jaffas to last him until the middle of 2012. The problem was that Minecon is a new show and organisation was pretty bad, and when we came to the scheduled signing sessions, nothing had been set up for us and we had to scrabble around to fetch tables, ropes and pens ourselves. With some younger kids around, it was our priority to make sure everything was safe, as we have seen injuries in the past.
This lack of organization contributed to long and confused lines and we were heartbroken to have to turn away so many people when we ran out of time. Simon can only handle a certain amount of time between cups of coffee and nicotine tablets before collapsing, but we made a real effort to get out there and managed to do about six hours of signing. Although we were frustrated, we would never have treated fans in the way that Notch suggested we did.
We were also unhappy and surprised that a week before Minecon, Mojang informed us that they had sold the rights to livestream our show and content to IGN – they hadn’t asked us, they hadn’t spoken to us – they just sold it. Because of this, we nearly cancelled the trip, but decided to say “balls to it” and come anyway, because we felt we owed it to the fans. Hannah actually spoke with IGN directly earlier, and they agreed to take their video down and let us put the videos up on our channel, so a big thanks to them for that.
We were not paid, and never demanded to be paid. We asked for some support, and Mojang said they could offer us two hotel rooms for the duration of the stay and a small boardroom to rest in. We spent a huge amount of money on flights, rooms, food and equipment for the 10 people that we brought along to support us, act as security, make videos/posts and generally help out. We also gave away 100 special t-shirts for free.
The reason we came to Minecon is because we wanted to thank you guys and meet the community that we love and are a part of. We couldn’t have gotten to where we are now without you guys, and so we decided to eat the costs of attending and just have fun. This is why we spent our panel giving a voice to loads of talented people that couldn’t attend but have made Minecraft what it is today.
We’re not gonna stop making videos, not going to stop loving you guys, and hopefully we’ll see you at more gaming conventions in the future.
Lewis & Simon & Hannah
EDIT: Video linking to this post see, it is really me after all. Hi mother!
Fanboys gonna fanboyant? Fanboyancy? Fanlaboyasflagin? Be Fanboys?
I'll just leave it here.
Happy MineCrafting,
CoreyTaz
The best way to have fun in minecraft is with TNT!!!
http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/mnau9/yogscast_response_to_notchs_twitterings/
And people still making horrible comments about Yogscast.
Did he want that - he wouldn't have posted accusations and insults in the first place.
Now would be actually nice to have mature apologies from Notch to Yogscast and the whole community, to settle whole thing peacefully.