So as you all know, it's almost Christmas! And for Christmas, I want a minecraft server! However, my parents (my dad really) aren't really onboard with this, because I don't know how to explain servers, and ram. Just so you guys know, my dad has a big ego, and is always a wise-ass. When I tried to explain it to him, he says stuff like "But your not answering me." Iv tried to explain by saying that buying a server is better than hosting one, with reasons such as the RAM, and Bucket, but he doesn't understand. He is a computer scientist, so can anyone help me, by giving me a small little list of reasons why we should BUY one? Also, if you can, give technical reasons why, as well. Thanks!
Are you talking about buying your own machine to run a Minecraft server on from home? If so, it'll really depend on what kind of server you plan on running and what kind of situation you have at home as far as internet and power go. Let me know and I'll happily explain everything for you.
No, No, I mean like buying off of a server hoster like McProHosting!
Oh okay. Well generally speaking, going through a server host is going to be more secure and you'll receive better performance. But you need to watch out for the scams out there. We like to call them kiddie hosts. They're hosts that are started up by kids with a little birthday or Christmas money and usually disappear after 2 months with no warning. Go with a reputable host like myself, or as you mentioned, MCProHosting. Another thing to remember is that cheapest is not always the best. If you have any more questions about hosting, shoot me a message and I'll be happy to go into more depth.
A good provider does have better equipment such as not limited to SSDs, CPU, RAM, and networking gear. All of which are usually enterpise grade and not desktop/consumer grade (like i3/i5/i7 based CPUs and consumer grade SSDs). Another thing to note that your home connection is good for say up to 5-20 players on a non modded server while a provider connection is usually no less than 10 times and latency would also be lower. Since providers do use quality bandwidth carriers rather than Time Warner/AT&T/Cox/etc. Then if you get DDoSed at least you will only lose the server and not your whole internet connection during the attack(s).
It's better to pay a host than to run one from home. I used to be a die hard "heck with hosts, do it yourself" person then I hosted a server for someone who advertised it on the server lists and got it popular. I found that popular = more chance of jerks finding the server; it got DDoS'd offline within a week. I had to pull the plug on his server because I work from home and I cannot have my internet crippled.
Soooo, I'd never run a server from home again unless it's a private non-advertised one.
It's more secure and protected if you go with hosts like ourselves or MCProHosting. If anything were to happen such as DDoS attacks or the server starts acting up, who are you going to call? Also, please watch out for kiddie hosts and scams.
Uhh.. this isn't your thread. Not to be rude, but your desire not to pay is therefore totally irrelevant. OP wants reasons to go with paid hosting.
Correct! I want reason that I SHOULD pay. I know that free, is kiddie hosts, a scam, or from your own IP. I realized a LONG time ago, you had to pay for one, so I want reasons of WHY I SHOULD.
1. He doesn't want reasons for paid hosting. He wants reasons for both options.
2. I just said what I think about spending money on a server.
3. Calm down, ok?
1. As he already corrected you on, no, that's not accurate.
2. It was the manner in which you said it that prompted my reply.. "and I established".. as if your preferences were more important than the OPs in his own thread.
3. Kids on the internet don't get to me. When I'm not calm, you'll know it lol
Sorry to hear about your dad bragging. I can outline some reasons why it would be better to choose a host:
- You're DDoS protected
- Bandwidth is not an issue
- Lower latency for all players
- No need for you to run a machine 24/7 at home
- No extra power expense for the machine running 24/7 at home
- No need to invest or maintain the hardware running 24/7 at home
- No need for you to either purchase windows license or learn how to do linux if you don't know it.
I can also outline some reasons why it would be bad to choose a host:
- You are solely depending on another part to run your server
- Unless you go with the more expensive hosters, your server will be a part of mass-hosting (over-committing the resources on the server running your mc instance)
- Unreliable hosts in the market: it's a huge market with many providers so it can be tough to see through and find the right one. Words can be very convincing.
- At many hosts, if your server gets DDoS'ed, they will close it down without warning
- Limited resources, if you need more ram, you will have to pay a higher price per month.
Many providers run on server hardware, but that doesn't mean consumer hardware is worse to use. Not at all. I have run a lot of consumer grade hardware for years without issues, serving as dedicated servers or gameserver hosts. The real reason why many hosts use xeon-based servers are probably because they from standard can be used with more memory and because many cheap dedicated server resellers are offering them. Far most of the hosts have no insight in hardware management because they rent all their servers. When I ran my own gameserver provider and dedicated server host, I used a lot of consumer grade boards and they all worked just as good as my xeon systems. The difference between me and most of other hosts though were that I managed my own hardware and hardened the systems by trimming the kernel (linux) down to what it was exactly supposed to do, optimizing the system itself, power consumption and ensuring more system stability. You of course can never be sure if a hardware component is going to fail or not but I did not have a single system crash in those 3 years the boards were running.
Most hosts really just setups up a gameserver control panel and leaves it there, without knowing much about the underlying system.
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Hey friends!
So as you all know, it's almost Christmas! And for Christmas, I want a minecraft server! However, my parents (my dad really) aren't really onboard with this, because I don't know how to explain servers, and ram. Just so you guys know, my dad has a big ego, and is always a wise-ass. When I tried to explain it to him, he says stuff like "But your not answering me." Iv tried to explain by saying that buying a server is better than hosting one, with reasons such as the RAM, and Bucket, but he doesn't understand. He is a computer scientist, so can anyone help me, by giving me a small little list of reasons why we should BUY one? Also, if you can, give technical reasons why, as well. Thanks!
Greatness is not an object, greatness is us.
Are you talking about buying your own machine to run a Minecraft server on from home? If so, it'll really depend on what kind of server you plan on running and what kind of situation you have at home as far as internet and power go. Let me know and I'll happily explain everything for you.
Regards,
Dylan H.
No, No, I mean like buying off of a server hoster like McProHosting!
Greatness is not an object, greatness is us.
Oh okay. Well generally speaking, going through a server host is going to be more secure and you'll receive better performance. But you need to watch out for the scams out there. We like to call them kiddie hosts. They're hosts that are started up by kids with a little birthday or Christmas money and usually disappear after 2 months with no warning. Go with a reputable host like myself, or as you mentioned, MCProHosting. Another thing to remember is that cheapest is not always the best. If you have any more questions about hosting, shoot me a message and I'll be happy to go into more depth.
Regards,
Dylan H.
A good provider does have better equipment such as not limited to SSDs, CPU, RAM, and networking gear. All of which are usually enterpise grade and not desktop/consumer grade (like i3/i5/i7 based CPUs and consumer grade SSDs). Another thing to note that your home connection is good for say up to 5-20 players on a non modded server while a provider connection is usually no less than 10 times and latency would also be lower. Since providers do use quality bandwidth carriers rather than Time Warner/AT&T/Cox/etc. Then if you get DDoSed at least you will only lose the server and not your whole internet connection during the attack(s).
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Curse PremiumIt's better to pay a host than to run one from home. I used to be a die hard "heck with hosts, do it yourself" person then I hosted a server for someone who advertised it on the server lists and got it popular. I found that popular = more chance of jerks finding the server; it got DDoS'd offline within a week. I had to pull the plug on his server because I work from home and I cannot have my internet crippled.
Soooo, I'd never run a server from home again unless it's a private non-advertised one.
It's more secure and protected if you go with hosts like ourselves or MCProHosting. If anything were to happen such as DDoS attacks or the server starts acting up, who are you going to call? Also, please watch out for kiddie hosts and scams.
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Curse PremiumUhh.. this isn't your thread. Not to be rude, but your desire not to pay is therefore totally irrelevant. OP wants reasons to go with paid hosting.
Correct! I want reason that I SHOULD pay. I know that free, is kiddie hosts, a scam, or from your own IP. I realized a LONG time ago, you had to pay for one, so I want reasons of WHY I SHOULD.
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Curse Premium1. As he already corrected you on, no, that's not accurate.
2. It was the manner in which you said it that prompted my reply.. "and I established".. as if your preferences were more important than the OPs in his own thread.
3. Kids on the internet don't get to me. When I'm not calm, you'll know it lol
Sorry to hear about your dad bragging. I can outline some reasons why it would be better to choose a host:
- You're DDoS protected
- Bandwidth is not an issue
- Lower latency for all players
- No need for you to run a machine 24/7 at home
- No extra power expense for the machine running 24/7 at home
- No need to invest or maintain the hardware running 24/7 at home
- No need for you to either purchase windows license or learn how to do linux if you don't know it.
I can also outline some reasons why it would be bad to choose a host:
- You are solely depending on another part to run your server
- Unless you go with the more expensive hosters, your server will be a part of mass-hosting (over-committing the resources on the server running your mc instance)
- Unreliable hosts in the market: it's a huge market with many providers so it can be tough to see through and find the right one. Words can be very convincing.
- At many hosts, if your server gets DDoS'ed, they will close it down without warning
- Limited resources, if you need more ram, you will have to pay a higher price per month.
Many providers run on server hardware, but that doesn't mean consumer hardware is worse to use. Not at all. I have run a lot of consumer grade hardware for years without issues, serving as dedicated servers or gameserver hosts. The real reason why many hosts use xeon-based servers are probably because they from standard can be used with more memory and because many cheap dedicated server resellers are offering them. Far most of the hosts have no insight in hardware management because they rent all their servers. When I ran my own gameserver provider and dedicated server host, I used a lot of consumer grade boards and they all worked just as good as my xeon systems. The difference between me and most of other hosts though were that I managed my own hardware and hardened the systems by trimming the kernel (linux) down to what it was exactly supposed to do, optimizing the system itself, power consumption and ensuring more system stability. You of course can never be sure if a hardware component is going to fail or not but I did not have a single system crash in those 3 years the boards were running.
Most hosts really just setups up a gameserver control panel and leaves it there, without knowing much about the underlying system.