To start with hunger, I admit I was one of the people advocating it. But I said all the time it should be included in the HARDCORE version, NOT regular! Because not everyone wanted hunger! For good reason. Hunger as it is right now absolutely miserable. Notch ruined health, you can no longer carry around a few pork chops and eat them when in danger. Now you eat and wait four hours for your health to perk back up, killing the adventerous part of the game.
Second, you have to carry a giant stack of porkchops with you can eat them. Don't have any porkchops for five minutes? You're down almost half your hunger, for some reason. (people in minecraft starve in less than a day)
When I supported hunger, I was hoping all it would do is hurt you if you ran out. I was hoping health would stay the same and you wouldn't have to eat it to slowly regenerate health. Most of all, I was hoping it would be hardcore only, cus if I wanted to deal with hunger I would play with the mod/plugin that let us do that. (It also did it RIGHT)
Armor makes everything useless. You're practically invincible against mobs, so don't even bother worrying about them. You could be a fanboy and say "but durr durr you can just take off the armor and not use it durr"
2 reasons this doesn't work.
1. Notch could install a button that gave you 64 diamonds each time you clicked it on the inventory screen, we could just "not use it" but how many people would hate it regardless?
2. PvP. PvP is absolutely miserable in the new update. Wanna fight someone with iron+ armor? Just be prepared to smack them around oh 5000 times. If they have potions (don't get me started on those) don't bother, youre dead anyway.
I support half of this kinda. Armor is good, but it's way too easy to obtain and it does make you invincible. Hunger, I like. It wouldn't have been added if we didn't have a "survival mode." However, it needs to be tweaked up. Like most things in Minecraft, I'm glad they're existent, but they suck! What they need to do is stop adding ****, for now. They need to make it so everything they have added doesn't suck. Adding more **** doesn't make things better.
I completely, wholeheartedly, and religiously disagree with your comments on hunger.
How on Earth does adding hunger "kill the adventurous part of the game"? Think about it for a moment. Surely nothing else could add as much adventurousness and survival content as hunger does. It balanced the overpowering and un-realisticness of food in 1.7.3 and below.
On the contrary, I agree with the armour thing.
But that doesn't make the game "not fun anymore".
I used to be able to build and explore without stopping every six seconds to eat a piece of pork or kill a chicken. Plus, it made cookies absolutely useless.
I used to be able to build and explore without stopping every six seconds to eat a piece of pork or kill a chicken. Plus, it made cookies absolutely useless.
You don't stop every six seconds to eat. (Unless you're sprinting 100% of the time and that's hardly every six seconds as well) Cookies were useless in the first place. It's a new challenge to the survival game. Scratch that. Hunger isn't really a challenge.
Hunger isn't that overpowering. You're making it sound worse than it really is. Make bread. It's cheap. Or get some Melons. They're slightly harder to get but are definitely worth it in the long run.
inb4 I hate farming.
No, I love farming. I just don't like hunger. It kills the flow of the game, honestly.
Hunger And Armor Ruined The Game for Me Just plain boring now
Then find or request some mods to fix hunger and armor, or find a more enjoyable game to play.
I'm sorry but I am getting tired of seeing these whiny threads proclaiming why the game is "ruined", or why someone has given up playing Minecraft "forever".
There are already threads discussing hunger, and other threads discussing armor, and there is no reason to start new threads for these topics.
I've gotten over the excess amount these "TEH GAME IS RUINED" threads, but these are really getting old now.
OP: Can you post this on one of the other threads in the landfill? We already have 500 threads trying to say the same thing.
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Armor is obviously op.
Important to note: no matter how rare you make diamonds, diamond armor at this state will always be op.
Regarding hunger bar, it's a complete improvement in my eyes.
It's survival mode, those who take the time to farm or find excellent food sources and keep themselves well fed will be fantastic warriors and have a longer life span. Same goes with armor, if you don't keep armor on you, you pay the price whether it's skeletons, enderman or blazes.
A LACK of hunger before ruined the survival aspect of the game . . .
But armour got screwed up. It should have been NERFED @_@ I mean, when you give two buffs for it . . . it isn't the right thing to do to make it better.
well armor isnt over powered if you're playing on a server with mcmmo, all you need is a high sword, unarmed, or axes skill and its gone in only a couple hits, even with diamond armor. perfect example of what mods are for, making the game more fun/improving something that a lot of people wish was changed
Second, you have to carry a giant stack of porkchops with you can eat them. Don't have any porkchops for five minutes? You're down almost half your hunger, for some reason. (people in minecraft starve in less than a day)
Looks like you have no knowledge behind the math of the hunger bar. You can easily get all the supplies you need to survive a night, and only lose 1 or 2 chicken legs. Hunger is based off activity. If you starve to death, than you heavily screwed up.(That would be an epic fail when you realize how many ways there is to get food.)
You can not simply lose half your hunger in 5 mins. The only way that can happen is if you sprint all the time. The entire system is based off what you do. If you simply walk, and break a few blocks, get coal, you can survive the night without even losing hunger. Hell, i dug up a 60x60 dark room and only lost 1 chicken leg.
You don't simply lose hunger at a fixed rate, there's a lot of math behind it.
There is a lot of "I's" in the Hunger section of the thread, that makes your argument very weak because it's now your opinion not a problem with the game.
You hate armour eh? Why because you die in multiplayer PVP severs? Dude the cave systems in Minecraft are filled with iron, why not mine some yourself. What, you think it's nooby to use it? Well it's also nooby to go out PVPing without any armour, you'll be a sitting duck.
If they have potions (don't get me started on those) don't bother, youre dead anyway.
Why didn't you take the time write about potions if you have such passion against them? Maybe because it was obvious to everyone what you were going to write:
"Potions do not belong in MInecraft, they make PVP a nightmare."
Again why don't you invest some time to obtain and craft potions? That also contradicts your hunger argument since there does exist a "Potion of Instant Heal" so why the hell not use them.
Have fun with the hate replies and Happy New Year you pony.
Hunger is a type of stamina that are linked to activities like movement, fighting and mining. It's actually not used when placing blocks, so you can make massive buildings on a single porkshop. The question is how much jumping and sprinting you do while building.
I probably eat more frequently in general now, but I think that is partly because I live on melons. Not the best type of nutrient. Steak gives an effect 10 times better.
To start with hunger, I admit I was one of the people advocating it. But I said all the time it should be included in the HARDCORE version, NOT regular! Because not everyone wanted hunger! For good reason. Hunger as it is right now absolutely miserable. Notch ruined health, you can no longer carry around a few pork chops and eat them when in danger. Now you eat and wait four hours for your health to perk back up, killing the adventerous part of the game.
Second, you have to carry a giant stack of porkchops with you can eat them. Don't have any porkchops for five minutes? You're down almost half your hunger, for some reason. (people in minecraft starve in less than a day)
When I supported hunger, I was hoping all it would do is hurt you if you ran out. I was hoping health would stay the same and you wouldn't have to eat it to slowly regenerate health. Most of all, I was hoping it would be hardcore only, cus if I wanted to deal with hunger I would play with the mod/plugin that let us do that. (It also did it RIGHT)
Armor makes everything useless. You're practically invincible against mobs, so don't even bother worrying about them. You could be a fanboy and say "but durr durr you can just take off the armor and not use it durr"
2 reasons this doesn't work.
1. Notch could install a button that gave you 64 diamonds each time you clicked it on the inventory screen, we could just "not use it" but how many people would hate it regardless?
2. PvP. PvP is absolutely miserable in the new update. Wanna fight someone with iron+ armor? Just be prepared to smack them around oh 5000 times. If they have potions (don't get me started on those) don't bother, youre dead anyway.
tl;dr
Hunger sucks
Armor sucks
Game isn't fun anymore
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I used to be able to build and explore without stopping every six seconds to eat a piece of pork or kill a chicken. Plus, it made cookies absolutely useless.
You don't stop every six seconds to eat. (Unless you're sprinting 100% of the time and that's hardly every six seconds as well) Cookies were useless in the first place. It's a new challenge to the survival game. Scratch that. Hunger isn't really a challenge.
No, I love farming. I just don't like hunger. It kills the flow of the game, honestly.
Herpa derp, of course it has. But it has just been made a near invincible defense.
How?
is what i read
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ModeratorThen find or request some mods to fix hunger and armor, or find a more enjoyable game to play.
I'm sorry but I am getting tired of seeing these whiny threads proclaiming why the game is "ruined", or why someone has given up playing Minecraft "forever".
There are already threads discussing hunger, and other threads discussing armor, and there is no reason to start new threads for these topics.
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OP: Can you post this on one of the other threads in the landfill? We already have 500 threads trying to say the same thing.
Important to note: no matter how rare you make diamonds, diamond armor at this state will always be op.
Regarding hunger bar, it's a complete improvement in my eyes.
It's survival mode, those who take the time to farm or find excellent food sources and keep themselves well fed will be fantastic warriors and have a longer life span. Same goes with armor, if you don't keep armor on you, you pay the price whether it's skeletons, enderman or blazes.
But armour got screwed up. It should have been NERFED @_@ I mean, when you give two buffs for it . . . it isn't the right thing to do to make it better.
So you were half right.
Looks like you have no knowledge behind the math of the hunger bar. You can easily get all the supplies you need to survive a night, and only lose 1 or 2 chicken legs. Hunger is based off activity. If you starve to death, than you heavily screwed up.(That would be an epic fail when you realize how many ways there is to get food.)
You can not simply lose half your hunger in 5 mins. The only way that can happen is if you sprint all the time. The entire system is based off what you do. If you simply walk, and break a few blocks, get coal, you can survive the night without even losing hunger. Hell, i dug up a 60x60 dark room and only lost 1 chicken leg.
You don't simply lose hunger at a fixed rate, there's a lot of math behind it.
This thread doesn't make sense....
The thread sucks.
There is a lot of "I's" in the Hunger section of the thread, that makes your argument very weak because it's now your opinion not a problem with the game.
You hate armour eh? Why because you die in multiplayer PVP severs? Dude the cave systems in Minecraft are filled with iron, why not mine some yourself. What, you think it's nooby to use it? Well it's also nooby to go out PVPing without any armour, you'll be a sitting duck.
Why didn't you take the time write about potions if you have such passion against them? Maybe because it was obvious to everyone what you were going to write:
"Potions do not belong in MInecraft, they make PVP a nightmare."
Again why don't you invest some time to obtain and craft potions? That also contradicts your hunger argument since there does exist a "Potion of Instant Heal" so why the hell not use them.
Have fun with the hate replies and Happy New Year you pony.
I probably eat more frequently in general now, but I think that is partly because I live on melons. Not the best type of nutrient. Steak gives an effect 10 times better.
These two articles tought me a lot:
Food: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Food#Food
Hunger use: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Hunger#Exhaustion_level_increase