So I've been following Minecraft's development and was very excited when things were nearing 1.0. Minecraft/Mojang was expanding, Jeb took the reins and there was a greatly increased community that resulted.
What's been going on since then? An update that adds localization and sheep regrowing their wool that hasn't even been released yet. The homepage is following Notch who doesn't even post about Minecraft anymore and any news regarding Minecraft needs to be searched for. I'm sorry, but I don't care about Cobalt, Scrolls or whatever else Notch/Jeb has decided to work on. I respect Notch for having created this great game, but it still needs work and constant attention by someone. I couldn't wait to see what NPC's would do in the game and how everything would change. Instead, it's a lot of thrown-in features with the same combat (charging the bow a great change) with brain-dead NPC's who even trample their own farms.
I got really interested in this game because it was constantly being updated, tweaked and because I could live with annoying bugs/glitches knowing they would most likely be addressed soon. It seems like Minecraft has been become a side project for Mojang. The reason why it's so disappointing is that Minecraft is what made Mojang. I really hope changes are made soon as the novelty will wear off soon.
The most recent post on the Minecraft forum news stated, "One must wonder what features will follow, but one thing is definitely clear - Minecraft is showing no signs of slowing down." Of course one must wonder, there's nothing else to go by. If sheep regrowing their wool and a couple bugfixes are signs of Minecraft not slowing down after having such a gigantic outing then I must be expecting way too much. Sorry to focus on all of these things but I can't remember how excited I've been about a game as I have been for this. Shortly after it gets out of beta, Notch publicly announces he's pretty much distancing himself from everything Minecraft in his usually cryptic way.
On the bright side there are many other excited games out there and I guess I'll just have to come back to this in a few months hoping progress has been made. This community, by the way, is amazing. I've been checking out the mods/creations for quite a while and you guys are what has really made things take off. Creative Mode is simply fantastic and is what I was originally wanting when I bought the latest version of Minecraft. I didn't mean to bash the game or anyone in any way, so please don't take it that way, I just am wondering if anyone else feels the same as I do.
I personally don't think Jeb is used to announcing things like Notch was. Notch pretty much always had a rundown of the situation, while Jeb will just say odd things here and there. Jeb did say though that he was working on mod API and other things at the moment. He's basically polishing features at the moment. Just wait for the AI specialist and a new year, and things will once again flow in.
I normally wouldn't respond, but there seems to be a new thread like this everyday. In a nutshell, it is not the game, it is you.
Every game has a honeymoon, well the honeymoon is over, the cat is out of the bag so to speak. There is not going to be a hundred updates coming on the horizon, there never was gonna be. If you ask me I can't believe Notch made it this far, I mean this is a long time to be playing around with a game, that really doesn't have an end.
The man was able to come up with this very unique and interesting game, now it is time for him to move on and leave this in capable hands, so he can go make another unique and interesting game.
If you need over stimulation, then maybe minecraft is not the game for you. Even if you play creative mode, you still have to be imaginative, and that is where your excitement has to come from, you, not the game. I have been playing this game since Alpha, it is amazing how much it really has changed, but it is also amazing at how much it hasn't changed. Here are the basics, you build, you kill, you mine, and now you can make potions, or enchant. They are all the same basic thing, nothing has truly changed, so I love to play this game, because I find new ways to do all those things, I invent clever things to make life in the game easier, I go off on adventures once in a while to keep spice in the marriage. That is it, the game is going to be what it is, just like every other game out there.
When I was a kid, and you had to go to the arcade to play games you picked a couple of favorites, and you stuck to them and got good at them. Only then would you move on to something different. Seems like nowadays everyone has to have a new game every week, I mean, you don't even really get to learn game dynamics that way, maybe you don't even see what the game really is that way. Think of it(for those of you who have played rpgs)like this, if you played Phantasy Star, or Final Fantasy say 7, what could you possibly accomplish in a month? I have accomplished some things I want to do in this game, but I just come up with new challenges so I always have something to accomplish. If I happen to not want to play it, I will play one of the other games I happen to play.
Well, this could go on and on, but I just wanted to say a few words, food for thought lets just say.
I normally wouldn't respond, but there seems to be a new thread like this everyday. In a nutshell, it is not the game, it is you.
As you can see by my number of posts, I usually don't respond either, even though I've been playing for close to a year and a half and running a server for a hair over a year. I'ts not him, it IS the game.
My previous postings have been defending against the nay-sayers, with my stating "this is Beta, expect bugs until final release! THis is still more stable than any other Beta I've seen!"
Well, Beta is over; we have peaceful mobs that don't act as they were intended (no regrowing wool, glitching through fencing), NPC's that do nothing except trample their own crops and escape their own villages to wonder infinately, and many others but I'm trying to keep this short. I can live with the sudden armor unbalance that some claim ruin the game as ALL games struggle with balance after release (I think Diablo II is STILL adjusting balance 10 years later :smile.gif: )
The man was able to come up with this very unique and interesting game, now it is time for him to move on and leave this in capable hands, so he can go make another unique and interesting game.
A professional never leaves a job unfinished, walking away to start up another project. This game was released "Final" when it's not in a "final" state. I'm even fine with that to a point, but you finsh the project before moving all your people but one over to new ones! WHATEVER it takes, you finish your project.
If you need over stimulation, then maybe minecraft is not the game for you... That is it, the game is going to be what it is, just like every other game out there.
The OP wasn't asking for new bells and whistles, if he were, on that I would agree with you, he just wants the original content to be finished as is the purpose of a Beta phase.
You raise some excellent points and I tend to agree with most of them. As you said Bamito, one enjoyable aspect of Minecraft is the relatively consistent addition of features. But at the same time this can be a detriment to any video game, as users are overwhelmed with new additions. I know I would be.
As you can see by my number of posts, I usually don't respond either, even though I've been playing for close to a year and a half and running a server for a hair over a year. I'ts not him, it IS the game.
My previous postings have been defending against the nay-sayers, with my stating "this is Beta, expect bugs until final release! THis is still more stable than any other Beta I've seen!"
Well, Beta is over; we have peaceful mobs that don't act as they were intended (no regrowing wool, glitching through fencing), NPC's that do nothing except trample their own crops and escape their own villages to wonder infinately, and many others but I'm trying to keep this short. I can live with the sudden armor unbalance that some claim ruin the game as ALL games struggle with balance after release (I think Diablo II is STILL adjusting balance 10 years later :smile.gif: )
A professional never leaves a job unfinished, walking away to start up another project. This game was released "Final" when it's not in a "final" state. I'm even fine with that to a point, but you finsh the project before moving all your people but one over to new ones! WHATEVER it takes, you finish your project.
The OP wasn't asking for new bells and whistles, if he were, on that I would agree with you, he just wants the original content to be finished as is the purpose of a Beta phase.
Respect...
Well I'm sorry you feel that way, but my long long years in life leave me observant, and I'm pretty sure there was only a small section on the finishing of the game, which I might add is an unfortunate thing, but can be worked around without too much problem. The rest of it was a what have you done for me lately, or as I said, that is the way I saw it. I too, have played this game for a long time, just don't see fit to mention it to justify what I say.
I will say this though, I'm sorry that you have mistaken my words, or I have misunderstood the OP, I was merely trying to point out, that if you do a search you will find an exorbitant amount of complaints about minecraft. The world goes round because people have opinions, ain't it grand.
Respect ? What respect ? I am playing this game for 2 years. I played since it exists and i never say "oh i am oldcore player have respect"
By the way the guy is correct. You are nutshell. You complain like a lil kid expecting big changes. Go the hell somewhere else and play other games. Your server hosting and your oldcore playing dont make you whole. You are simply wasting your time and our times.
Also i didnt read your post because its same as other.
And it shows, I wasn't saying respect me, I don't give a **** what you think of me, I was saying that I respected what YOU were saying.
Spoke to damn soon there. Go ahead and flame some more though and show who the "little kid" is.
Okay then.
What happens to mojang when everyone (or near everyone) looses interest in minecraft?
They now also have scrolls and cobalt (cobalt they help with) so now they can produce games that maybe arn't as epic as minecraft, but are still really good.
This what there doing:
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----MOJANG IS NOW DEAD----
Also, look at the community, they have there own updates really.
What would be a sensible course of action for jeb to take?
Jeb's doing a hell of a job. I've got no problem with Jeb, and unlike some of the die hard "Notch does no wrong" people I believe Notch was batting 1000 before he left the game unfinished.
Take the extra month to finish the project as any other company would do to keep from disenchanting players for a valid argument "why buy Mjangs future games when they can't finish the previous one." Thats the reputatin I don't want them to get because this is one of the greatest games and groups of people ever put together!
I am going to have to stop you right there.
Initially I believed that Mojang just ditched Minecraft for solid development, but you have to remember, Mojang only just released Cobalt and haven't taken their new staff onboard. This is why Jens hasn't been working on Minecraft as much as he wanted to. (He even stated this on his twitter account.) With Cobalt out of the way and many new crew members arriving, we will be getting these 'radical' changes you have been waiting for in the next 3-4 weeks. If you really want new content, why don't you install some mods? IMO I think its a bit wasteful to complain about this on MC forums when you could just send an e-mail directly to Jens to get his attention? Jeez.
You don't need to stop me right there... I'm not saying I want new content, I like what we have, please dont add anymore! I just don't understand why its unreasonable to want the game finished when the "finished" release is made and expect people to take the time (screw the impatient people) to complete the project.
I would have prefered them changing the release date to a big New Years celebration to get it all rolled up, but I know that would have been difficult after all the MineCon bookings.
Thats all I want, that and world peace. :smile.gif:
I normally wouldn't respond, but there seems to be a new thread like this everyday. In a nutshell, it is not the game, it is you.
Every game has a honeymoon, well the honeymoon is over, the cat is out of the bag so to speak. There is not going to be a hundred updates coming on the horizon, there never was gonna be. If you ask me I can't believe Notch made it this far, I mean this is a long time to be playing around with a game, that really doesn't have an end.
The man was able to come up with this very unique and interesting game, now it is time for him to move on and leave this in capable hands, so he can go make another unique and interesting game.
If you need over stimulation, then maybe minecraft is not the game for you. Even if you play creative mode, you still have to be imaginative, and that is where your excitement has to come from, you, not the game. I have been playing this game since Alpha, it is amazing how much it really has changed, but it is also amazing at how much it hasn't changed. Here are the basics, you build, you kill, you mine, and now you can make potions, or enchant. They are all the same basic thing, nothing has truly changed, so I love to play this game, because I find new ways to do all those things, I invent clever things to make life in the game easier, I go off on adventures once in a while to keep spice in the marriage. That is it, the game is going to be what it is, just like every other game out there.
When I was a kid, and you had to go to the arcade to play games you picked a couple of favorites, and you stuck to them and got good at them. Only then would you move on to something different. Seems like nowadays everyone has to have a new game every week, I mean, you don't even really get to learn game dynamics that way, maybe you don't even see what the game really is that way. Think of it(for those of you who have played rpgs)like this, if you played Phantasy Star, or Final Fantasy say 7, what could you possibly accomplish in a month? I have accomplished some things I want to do in this game, but I just come up with new challenges so I always have something to accomplish. If I happen to not want to play it, I will play one of the other games I happen to play.
Well, this could go on and on, but I just wanted to say a few words, food for thought lets just say.
That was easily the most intelligent thing I've ever read on these forums.
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I broke up with my ex girl. Here's her numbah........
SIKE! DAS DA WRONG NUMBAH!
As you can see by my number of posts, I usually don't respond either, even though I've been playing for close to a year and a half and running a server for a hair over a year. I'ts not him, it IS the game.
My previous postings have been defending against the nay-sayers, with my stating "this is Beta, expect bugs until final release! THis is still more stable than any other Beta I've seen!"
Well, Beta is over; we have peaceful mobs that don't act as they were intended (no regrowing wool, glitching through fencing), NPC's that do nothing except trample their own crops and escape their own villages to wonder infinately, and many others but I'm trying to keep this short. I can live with the sudden armor unbalance that some claim ruin the game as ALL games struggle with balance after release (I think Diablo II is STILL adjusting balance 10 years later :smile.gif: )
A professional never leaves a job unfinished, walking away to start up another project. This game was released "Final" when it's not in a "final" state. I'm even fine with that to a point, but you finsh the project before moving all your people but one over to new ones! WHATEVER it takes, you finish your project.
The OP wasn't asking for new bells and whistles, if he were, on that I would agree with you, he just wants the original content to be finished as is the purpose of a Beta phase.
Respect...
You, sir, sound as if you think nothing is going to be finished. It has been announced that there will the AI specialist, so the NPCs trampling their crops hopefully won't be in there, and if you kept up with the news at all, you'd know that in the latest snapshot, sheep regrow their wool. If Minecraft were a game made by a professional company, then your complaints would be warranted, but seeing as it still well under development, the criticizing of confirmed features not being here at THIS moment is a bit ridiculous.
I appreciate that very much, it comes with being old, gray, and experienced, lol.
When I saw you say "Go to the Arcade", I realized that your as old as me. Ahh the days when you had to go to a place, not your home, to play video games.
We walked up hill, in the snow....BOTH WAYS!
And we liked it!
I've dealt with a lot of the new generation of gamers. If they play a game for a month it's a smash hit. They say things like "You remember when we were playing ____" and it was last week.
Thing is, I'm willing to bet I did it too, or would have. I remember having dozens of Atari games and still being bored with them all.
Here is the deal with Minecraft peoples. At least how I see it. It got a lot bigger, faster than it's creator thought it would. One guy is trying to make 4 million of us happy. It's not an attainable goal. Now the guy is rich, and has a multimillion dollar company on his hands. He went from you and me, to super star in a few years time, with more money than we'll ever see in our lives. O ya, and in between planning new games, steering his company, and publishing other independent titles. He is expected to update minecraft on a weekly basis and make it work flawless right?
Most games have dozens of people working on them. I was just reading the wiki for Asheron's Call (Yes I'm that old). At release their were over a dozen programmers, and artists; along with over 2 million lines of code. How many people are listed in the credits for most games now a days? We have one, perhaps two that work on this game. I'm surprised it's as functional as it is.
Now the new guy is taking over. What your not hearing is that he is squashing bugs. To me the sheep are not new content, it's a bug fix. Should have been their a long time ago.
Well, they rushed many things in preparation for Minecon, so it makes sense they're focussing on fixing bugs right now. A new AI coder is joining the staff soon, right? So the villagers should be more useful in time.
The biggest problem is that Notch wrote the release date was just a milestone, that not much will change after release. Or words to that effect, it's been a while. If you already knew about this, it's a disappointment when combined with what's going on now. (Notch stepped down, leaving Jeb on his own until the new coder joins, and I think Jeb was also pulled to work on Cobalt or something, correct? We have somewhat-weekly snapshots to tide us over until 1.1, which someone said comes out in March...) Now, if you didn't know that the release date was just an arbitrary date, you'd be disappointed with how buggy and lacking a 'finished' game Minecraft is (not to mention with what's going on now).
I'm still having fun just building random things, but there's no shortage of new games to tide you over until the next update.
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'Technology has left us hopelessly spoiled,' Charlie Brooker wrote. 'We whine like disappointed emperors the moment it does anything other than pander to our every whim.'
I kind of agree. It seems Minecraft is getting shafted a little bit.
Take the newest update for example. All it really is is sheep regenerating their wool, and a few bug fixes. They used to make tiny updates like this in a month at most! Now it's taking like two-three?
Minecraft has been "Officially released", but I don't feel as if it's a priority anymore.
I normally wouldn't respond, but there seems to be a new thread like this everyday. In a nutshell, it is not the game, it is you.
Yes, of course, it's not the game, it's the people who post threads "like this everyday". I feel that you are on to something big here. I need some time to fully meditate on your point. Incredible... Just... Magical.
An informed consumer would never touch another Mojang project knowing now how horrible at development they are. An imbocile consumer will lap up whatever scraps notch throws them.
An informed consumer would never touch another Mojang project knowing now how horrible at development they are. An imbocile consumer will lap up whatever scraps notch throws them.
Yes, I must admit that I might even consider buying another Mojang game if it looked good, but everything they have lined up appears to be **** upon ****, and there's no chance in hell I'm going to "fund" anymore "alphas".
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BETA
"When we release a pure bugfix update, people get VERY upset ("NOTHING CHANGED!").. Adding features gives us much happier users. But I do realize that it's only happier users in the short term." - Notch
Yes, of course, it's not the game, it's the people who post threads "like this everyday". I feel that you are on to something big here. I need some time to fully meditate on your point. Incredible... Just... Magical.
Yes, I must admit that I might even consider buying another Mojang game if it looked good, but everything they have lined up appears to be **** upon ****, and there's no chance in hell I'm going to "fund" anymore "alphas".
I'm going to assume those comments for me were sarcasim? I'm getting the feeling you are disgruntled with the way things have gone with minecraft, not sure, just kinda sounds that way.
The way I see it, I paid $13.00 for this game, again, in my day most all games were no less than $50.00 period. I understand that some are still that much, and many more are less expensive nowadays. What I'm saying is have you had a ton of fun with this game over the last year or two, however long you have played? Do you really feel that whatever the money that you spent on it, probably less than I did, was not worth the amount of fun you had with the game. I will not disagree the fundemental truth that the game really isn't finished, it really is a shame too, but is it really that bad? My point up there was why do we have to have a post every day about it, we already know the deal, it's now time to wait and see what Mojang actaully does about it.
The only thing that would suck, is people buying the game now, I have no arguement there, I would feel a little bothered by the problems in the game to say the least.
My point up there was why do we have to have a post every day about it, we already know the deal, it's now time to wait and see what Mojang actaully does about it.
Well, if your "point" is correct, then there's nothing Mojang can or will do about it, because the fault is the OP's, not the game's. However, there is something Mojang can or will do about it, therefore your point is not correct. See, I didn't even have to write an essay.
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"When we release a pure bugfix update, people get VERY upset ("NOTHING CHANGED!").. Adding features gives us much happier users. But I do realize that it's only happier users in the short term." - Notch
What's been going on since then? An update that adds localization and sheep regrowing their wool that hasn't even been released yet. The homepage is following Notch who doesn't even post about Minecraft anymore and any news regarding Minecraft needs to be searched for. I'm sorry, but I don't care about Cobalt, Scrolls or whatever else Notch/Jeb has decided to work on. I respect Notch for having created this great game, but it still needs work and constant attention by someone. I couldn't wait to see what NPC's would do in the game and how everything would change. Instead, it's a lot of thrown-in features with the same combat (charging the bow a great change) with brain-dead NPC's who even trample their own farms.
I got really interested in this game because it was constantly being updated, tweaked and because I could live with annoying bugs/glitches knowing they would most likely be addressed soon. It seems like Minecraft has been become a side project for Mojang. The reason why it's so disappointing is that Minecraft is what made Mojang. I really hope changes are made soon as the novelty will wear off soon.
The most recent post on the Minecraft forum news stated, "One must wonder what features will follow, but one thing is definitely clear - Minecraft is showing no signs of slowing down." Of course one must wonder, there's nothing else to go by. If sheep regrowing their wool and a couple bugfixes are signs of Minecraft not slowing down after having such a gigantic outing then I must be expecting way too much. Sorry to focus on all of these things but I can't remember how excited I've been about a game as I have been for this. Shortly after it gets out of beta, Notch publicly announces he's pretty much distancing himself from everything Minecraft in his usually cryptic way.
On the bright side there are many other excited games out there and I guess I'll just have to come back to this in a few months hoping progress has been made. This community, by the way, is amazing. I've been checking out the mods/creations for quite a while and you guys are what has really made things take off. Creative Mode is simply fantastic and is what I was originally wanting when I bought the latest version of Minecraft. I didn't mean to bash the game or anyone in any way, so please don't take it that way, I just am wondering if anyone else feels the same as I do.
Every game has a honeymoon, well the honeymoon is over, the cat is out of the bag so to speak. There is not going to be a hundred updates coming on the horizon, there never was gonna be. If you ask me I can't believe Notch made it this far, I mean this is a long time to be playing around with a game, that really doesn't have an end.
The man was able to come up with this very unique and interesting game, now it is time for him to move on and leave this in capable hands, so he can go make another unique and interesting game.
If you need over stimulation, then maybe minecraft is not the game for you. Even if you play creative mode, you still have to be imaginative, and that is where your excitement has to come from, you, not the game. I have been playing this game since Alpha, it is amazing how much it really has changed, but it is also amazing at how much it hasn't changed. Here are the basics, you build, you kill, you mine, and now you can make potions, or enchant. They are all the same basic thing, nothing has truly changed, so I love to play this game, because I find new ways to do all those things, I invent clever things to make life in the game easier, I go off on adventures once in a while to keep spice in the marriage. That is it, the game is going to be what it is, just like every other game out there.
When I was a kid, and you had to go to the arcade to play games you picked a couple of favorites, and you stuck to them and got good at them. Only then would you move on to something different. Seems like nowadays everyone has to have a new game every week, I mean, you don't even really get to learn game dynamics that way, maybe you don't even see what the game really is that way. Think of it(for those of you who have played rpgs)like this, if you played Phantasy Star, or Final Fantasy say 7, what could you possibly accomplish in a month? I have accomplished some things I want to do in this game, but I just come up with new challenges so I always have something to accomplish. If I happen to not want to play it, I will play one of the other games I happen to play.
Well, this could go on and on, but I just wanted to say a few words, food for thought lets just say.
As you can see by my number of posts, I usually don't respond either, even though I've been playing for close to a year and a half and running a server for a hair over a year. I'ts not him, it IS the game.
My previous postings have been defending against the nay-sayers, with my stating "this is Beta, expect bugs until final release! THis is still more stable than any other Beta I've seen!"
Well, Beta is over; we have peaceful mobs that don't act as they were intended (no regrowing wool, glitching through fencing), NPC's that do nothing except trample their own crops and escape their own villages to wonder infinately, and many others but I'm trying to keep this short. I can live with the sudden armor unbalance that some claim ruin the game as ALL games struggle with balance after release (I think Diablo II is STILL adjusting balance 10 years later :smile.gif: )
A professional never leaves a job unfinished, walking away to start up another project. This game was released "Final" when it's not in a "final" state. I'm even fine with that to a point, but you finsh the project before moving all your people but one over to new ones! WHATEVER it takes, you finish your project.
The OP wasn't asking for new bells and whistles, if he were, on that I would agree with you, he just wants the original content to be finished as is the purpose of a Beta phase.
Respect...
Well I'm sorry you feel that way, but my long long years in life leave me observant, and I'm pretty sure there was only a small section on the finishing of the game, which I might add is an unfortunate thing, but can be worked around without too much problem. The rest of it was a what have you done for me lately, or as I said, that is the way I saw it. I too, have played this game for a long time, just don't see fit to mention it to justify what I say.
I will say this though, I'm sorry that you have mistaken my words, or I have misunderstood the OP, I was merely trying to point out, that if you do a search you will find an exorbitant amount of complaints about minecraft. The world goes round because people have opinions, ain't it grand.
And it shows, I wasn't saying respect me, I don't give a **** what you think of me, I was saying that I respected what YOU were saying.
Spoke to damn soon there. Go ahead and flame some more though and show who the "little kid" is.
Perfectly spoken. I've tried to tell others this but they don't understand how businesses work.
Jeb's doing a hell of a job. I've got no problem with Jeb, and unlike some of the die hard "Notch does no wrong" people I believe Notch was batting 1000 before he left the game unfinished.
Take the extra month to finish the project as any other company would do to keep from disenchanting players for a valid argument "why buy Mjangs future games when they can't finish the previous one." Thats the reputatin I don't want them to get because this is one of the greatest games and groups of people ever put together!
You don't need to stop me right there... I'm not saying I want new content, I like what we have, please dont add anymore! I just don't understand why its unreasonable to want the game finished when the "finished" release is made and expect people to take the time (screw the impatient people) to complete the project.
I would have prefered them changing the release date to a big New Years celebration to get it all rolled up, but I know that would have been difficult after all the MineCon bookings.
Thats all I want, that and world peace. :smile.gif:
That was easily the most intelligent thing I've ever read on these forums.
SIKE! DAS DA WRONG NUMBAH!
You, sir, sound as if you think nothing is going to be finished. It has been announced that there will the AI specialist, so the NPCs trampling their crops hopefully won't be in there, and if you kept up with the news at all, you'd know that in the latest snapshot, sheep regrow their wool. If Minecraft were a game made by a professional company, then your complaints would be warranted, but seeing as it still well under development, the criticizing of confirmed features not being here at THIS moment is a bit ridiculous.
I appreciate that very much, it comes with being old, gray, and experienced, lol.
The game was released as "final" with the promise of fixing the bugs and finishing the half-baked offerings already in place.
SMP mob hitboxes, NPC's and villages and a host of buggy "features" all serve to make a great game seem almost there.
I hope I don't see a single piece of new content before fixing what's already on our plate.
Problem is- that won't happen. Adding new code is much easier than fixing a bug.
When I saw you say "Go to the Arcade", I realized that your as old as me. Ahh the days when you had to go to a place, not your home, to play video games.
We walked up hill, in the snow....BOTH WAYS!
And we liked it!
I've dealt with a lot of the new generation of gamers. If they play a game for a month it's a smash hit. They say things like "You remember when we were playing ____" and it was last week.
Thing is, I'm willing to bet I did it too, or would have. I remember having dozens of Atari games and still being bored with them all.
Here is the deal with Minecraft peoples. At least how I see it. It got a lot bigger, faster than it's creator thought it would. One guy is trying to make 4 million of us happy. It's not an attainable goal. Now the guy is rich, and has a multimillion dollar company on his hands. He went from you and me, to super star in a few years time, with more money than we'll ever see in our lives. O ya, and in between planning new games, steering his company, and publishing other independent titles. He is expected to update minecraft on a weekly basis and make it work flawless right?
Most games have dozens of people working on them. I was just reading the wiki for Asheron's Call (Yes I'm that old). At release their were over a dozen programmers, and artists; along with over 2 million lines of code. How many people are listed in the credits for most games now a days? We have one, perhaps two that work on this game. I'm surprised it's as functional as it is.
Now the new guy is taking over. What your not hearing is that he is squashing bugs. To me the sheep are not new content, it's a bug fix. Should have been their a long time ago.
The biggest problem is that Notch wrote the release date was just a milestone, that not much will change after release. Or words to that effect, it's been a while. If you already knew about this, it's a disappointment when combined with what's going on now. (Notch stepped down, leaving Jeb on his own until the new coder joins, and I think Jeb was also pulled to work on Cobalt or something, correct? We have somewhat-weekly snapshots to tide us over until 1.1, which someone said comes out in March...) Now, if you didn't know that the release date was just an arbitrary date, you'd be disappointed with how buggy and lacking a 'finished' game Minecraft is (not to mention with what's going on now).
I'm still having fun just building random things, but there's no shortage of new games to tide you over until the next update.
'Technology has left us hopelessly spoiled,' Charlie Brooker wrote. 'We whine like disappointed emperors the moment it does anything other than pander to our every whim.'
Take the newest update for example. All it really is is sheep regenerating their wool, and a few bug fixes. They used to make tiny updates like this in a month at most! Now it's taking like two-three?
Minecraft has been "Officially released", but I don't feel as if it's a priority anymore.
Yes, of course, it's not the game, it's the people who post threads "like this everyday". I feel that you are on to something big here. I need some time to fully meditate on your point. Incredible... Just... Magical.
Yes, I must admit that I might even consider buying another Mojang game if it looked good, but everything they have lined up appears to be **** upon ****, and there's no chance in hell I'm going to "fund" anymore "alphas".
"When we release a pure bugfix update, people get VERY upset ("NOTHING CHANGED!").. Adding features gives us much happier users. But I do realize that it's only happier users in the short term." - Notch
I'm going to assume those comments for me were sarcasim? I'm getting the feeling you are disgruntled with the way things have gone with minecraft, not sure, just kinda sounds that way.
The way I see it, I paid $13.00 for this game, again, in my day most all games were no less than $50.00 period. I understand that some are still that much, and many more are less expensive nowadays. What I'm saying is have you had a ton of fun with this game over the last year or two, however long you have played? Do you really feel that whatever the money that you spent on it, probably less than I did, was not worth the amount of fun you had with the game. I will not disagree the fundemental truth that the game really isn't finished, it really is a shame too, but is it really that bad? My point up there was why do we have to have a post every day about it, we already know the deal, it's now time to wait and see what Mojang actaully does about it.
The only thing that would suck, is people buying the game now, I have no arguement there, I would feel a little bothered by the problems in the game to say the least.
Well, if your "point" is correct, then there's nothing Mojang can or will do about it, because the fault is the OP's, not the game's. However, there is something Mojang can or will do about it, therefore your point is not correct. See, I didn't even have to write an essay.
"When we release a pure bugfix update, people get VERY upset ("NOTHING CHANGED!").. Adding features gives us much happier users. But I do realize that it's only happier users in the short term." - Notch