Okay, I'm going to try this the diplomatic way first.
Now, I'm going to ask all voxel-boxees or people affiliated with them, including those sent to this thread for a specified reason, to refrain from posting. We get it. You think it's creepy that jok3r09 is doing these things. But there are legit posts in here, and these farce notions are only going to stir up trouble and block out the legitimate conversations.
Please keep these things on your own property. I haven't called the moderators yet and I have no intention to until things get out of hand, but that still doesn't mean I'm not going to.
Now, if this heresy continues any further, I'm not going to try it the diplomatic way. In fact, I'm going to use some rather strong techniques to get you out.
I hope you respect our request.
- Styx Management (mainly Turtleey. actually, yeah, just Turtleey.)
Lol? Wait what plugin have we stolen? Haha? We have a legit programmer, its przewrap that has stolen plugins. The only thing I can give legit credit to is VoxelTronix.
So, is it because VoxelTronix is not public and you couldn't steal the code yet that you give credit to it?
He isn't the one who posted a private conversation on the thread. In fact, you guys were. Everything was just peachy up until that point - jok3r isn't responsible for this, not to say I agree with his original actions involving the private chat.
Now, please, end this discussion and bring it elsewhere - and don't loop it around.
if by 'peachy' you mean until one of your server staff made veiled threats of violence against someone's wife, then yeah, nothing but peaches and dandelions. but the second that line was crossed, it really is a matter of public concern.
however you choose to spin what's happened, however you'd like to focus attention away from it, the fact is that j0k3r09 said this:
Quote from Ridgedog »
Hey! i did apply, unfortunately, this is the response i got from Jok3r....
Dragon1989 = Jok3r
Ridgedog = Me!
08/07 23:33:54 Dragon1989: How I know, your name?
08/07 23:33:58 Dragon1989: How I know your number?
08/07 23:34:05 Dragon1989: How I know mostly everything about you?
08/07 23:34:13 Ridgedog: eh? i don't hide anything
08/07 23:36:38 Ridgedog: yeah man, i don't hide it, any of my members can know
08/07 23:36:50 Dragon1989: Of course they doo..
08/07 23:36:56 Dragon1989: I seen your wifes blog spot...
08/07 23:37:05 Dragon1989: All the things she writes about..
08/07 23:37:07 Dragon1989: Interesting things
08/07 23:37:18 Ridgedog: that's because she's an interesting person!
08/07 23:37:24 Dragon1989: Haha
08/07 23:37:25 Ridgedog: why do you think i married her?
08/07 23:37:50 Dragon1989: Well the picture you guys first met, or dated, what ever the case, that must have been a beautiful moment.
08/07 23:37:52 Dragon1989: I know it was for me
08/07 23:37:58 Dragon1989: For me and my wife
08/07 23:38:50 Ridgedog: didn't know you cared so much :biggrin.gif: i'll tell chelsea she has a fan
08/07 23:38:56 Dragon1989: Yup
08/07 23:39:05 Dragon1989: Im interested in learning more about the way you live :tongue.gif:
08/07 23:40:21 Dragon1989: Haha wanna know whats even more funny? Finding your information, that was pretty funny.
08/07 23:40:33 Dragon1989: And sharing it with my admins, mods, members.
08/07 23:40:35 Dragon1989: I was dieing
08/07 23:40:38 Dragon1989: I was happy.
08/07 23:40:45 Dragon1989: We had many plans with it
08/07 23:40:54 Dragon1989: Like for one, i was gonna send you a letter,
08/07 23:40:56 Ridgedog: there's charm in not caring that people on the web know about you
08/07 23:41:05 Ridgedog: it's freeing
08/07 23:41:23 Ridgedog: additionally- I am happy in my life, i'll explain this so you can understand.
08/07 23:41:32 Ridgedog: when you're happy, it doesn't matter what other people think!
08/07 23:41:54 Ridgedog: so- if you had a good laugh, that's good
08/07 23:42:44 Dragon1989: Haha, these are my last words to you pal, "Happiness doesn't last forever, someone or something, may, one day ruin part of it. Making your life be partially empty."
and that's something the minecraft community should be made aware of, even if you'd like it otherwise.
if by 'peachy' you mean until one of your server staff made veiled threats of violence against someone's wife, then yeah, nothing but peaches and dandelions. but the second that line was crossed, it really is a matter of public concern.
however you choose to spin what's happened, however you'd like to focus attention away from it, the fact is that j0k3r09 said this:
-snip-
and that's something the minecraft community should be made aware of, even if you'd like it otherwise.
I'm going to walk you through this.
1: I'm aware that jok3r09 did these things and I do not represent his actions or decisions. I didn't know about this at all until ridgedog decided to go ahead and share a private conversation with the world, although I am rather concerned about what jok3r said.
2: Jok3r09 is no longer a part of our staff. You want to spread it around the minecraft community? Okay. I'm not against you. Freedom of the press, right? But he's no longer affiliated with Styx. If you want to make it well-known, don't post it on this thread, and don't mention Styx. Nobody but jok3r had any part of this, and he's not even going to be with us by tomorrow. And I am going to call some people if you decide to spread farce and heresy, despite my polite and justified request. And if you have no idea what the hell those words mean, I don't care. I'm being formal, unlike you all, copy-pasting the same discussion over and over - we get it. You think it's creepy.
3: Why should the "minecraft community" be made aware of this? Not that I'm for covering this up completely and forgetting it ever happened, but without Styx, he has no connections and no significance (sorry jok3r, somebody had to say it ) in the community. In fact, it seems like the only reason one would try to make this well-known is to either stop jok3r from hosting for future servers, or to simply "trash" Styx Reborn's reputation. And knowing Voxel Box and affiliates, I'm putting more likeness on one than the other. One thing, however, stated above, is that jok3r is no longer a part of our staff, nobody but him had any part of this, and he has no connection or significance to Styx after today. If you want to find some dramatic hubbub about one of Styx's staff, do it on somebody that's actually managing Styx. and i guess now you'll be stalking me for something embarrassing I do.
4: By "peachy", I clearly meant the amount of dramatic crap on the Styx thread - not peachy in all of the member's secret lives or on the server itself. In fact, shortly before the post was made, our server was "visited" by a lot of voxel box members and staff. In fact, for a few months, I'd thought that voxelbox had forgotten about us completely. It was tensing being with them in the first place, especially due to only recent events involving a plugin. Later, lots of griefing and client-hacking attempts were made - not that I'm pointing any fingers. Just providing examples of what went terrible yesterday. Things were NOT completely peachy up until "that" point, and you guys haven't changed that. Things have been difficult, especially to somebody in a managerial position. - jok3r09 leaving, deciding on a new host, debating about what to do for 1.8, and etc. This stint is just another thing to pull out hair about, and that's why, on top of all of the **** that's already happening, I want this to get out of my thread. Not nessecarily out of these forums, but just keep it away from Styx. I've said that several times now and I don't think I'm going to regret it, and I'm rather positive at least one person has the will to agree with me.
5: I certainly have not "spun" this around, and I am not the one you should be fighting against. Simply one post earlier, instead of respecting the server's wishes and giving this it's own thread, one just remarks that jok3r is my "slave" and continues posting. That's what I define as "spinning", what do you define it as, because I would certainly love to know. Another thing - I'm not trying to focus attention away from this at all. I would if jok3r was still the host and simply having him here while this discussion was going on would plummit the server. But he's not. Jok3r09 is no longer a part of the staff, and I'm not afraid of this getting popular. I just want this shitty drama bowl to get it's own thread - one that doesn't mention Styx, please, as forementioned, jok3r is no longer with us. So, please, feel free to show this to everyone you want to. I'm not against it. This doesn't make me "scared" at all, despite your possible attempts. Although, jok3r is my friend, and I would hate to see him in such a pickle, do what you must. Simply keep it away from this server and this thread. That is all I request. Perhaps, if you are willing, to "live and let live" with Styx and refrain from "visiting" us again, I would request that also.
And if anyone dare says "tl;dr", well, let's just say I have my hand on the phone.
WTF? Now two people making "not so veiled threats", and your is posted on a public forum. Your wall of text just discounts your buddy threat, while you levy your own?. I am the one who is notifying the admins, I am the one who is contacting Curse. Evidently you people might learn something about laws and liability. If the Admins of these forums don't ban you and your Jok3r, I will be boycotting curse and everything they are involved in, and I wont be silent about it. You and your buddy want to operate as public sociopaths, than you better get used to taking responsibility.
WTF? Now two people making "not so veiled threats", and your is posted on a public forum. Your wall of text just discounts your buddy threat, while you levy your own?. I am the one who is notifying the admins, I am the one who is contacting Curse. Evidently you people might learn something about laws and liability. If the Admins of these forums don't ban you and your Jok3r, I will be boycotting curse and everything they are involved in, and I wont be silent about it. You and your buddy want to operate as public sociopaths, than you better get used to taking responsibility.
What?
I'm rather confused. Can you point out, what point in my "wall of text" did I make an actual ban-worthy threat against you? Please show me.
Also, jok3r09's Minecraft Forum account has nothing to do with this whole thing at all. In fact, it was ridgedog who started this, not to point fingers on who deserves a ban. Jok3r09 had no choice but to reply, and none of his posts (or mine) have broken any Minecraft Forum rules. So you can begin your raid against the admins now, if you please.
And I am going to call some people if you decide to spread farce and heresy, despite my polite and justified request. And if you have no idea what the hell those words mean, I don't care. I'm being formal, unlike you all, copy-pasting the same discussion over and over - we get it. You think it's creepy.
And if anyone dare says "tl;dr", well, let's just say I have my hand on the phone.
Your buddies threat stands on its own. Hopefully someone makes him accountable, if I were you, I would wire my **** up and move on.
Your buddies threat stands on its own. Hopefully someone makes him accountable, if I were you, I would wire my **** up and move on.
Okay, now you're seriously overreacting.
By "hand on the phone" and "call some people", I meant the moderators. I think they'll agree that this thread isn't the place for discussing crap, especially if the owner has politely asked you to leave several times. Do you honestly think that if somebody said tl;dr I would call a gang of thugs to beat them up? Yeah. Okay.
The owner of what? the forums? you think you own this ad thread since you posted here? I will say no more, but the behavior and poor judgement you and your buddy have committed too regarding this issue has spoken volumes too your fiber. Your bed, you lay in it.
By "hand on the phone" and "call some people", I meant the moderators. I think they'll agree that this thread isn't the place for discussing crap, especially if the owner has politely asked you to leave several times. Do you honestly think that if somebody said tl;dr I would call a gang of thugs to beat them up? Yeah. Okay.
The owner of what? the forums? you think you own this ad thread since you posted here? I will say no more, but the behavior and judgement you and your buddy have committed too regarding this issue has spoken volumes too your fiber.
Out.
Now you're using some hostile words, pal.
The owner of the server, and thereby the legal owner of the server thread as well. That's right. I'm the founder and owner of Styx, not some random dandy member who's defending ever-so-godly jok3r. I hired jok3r back in March to host the server, not the other way around.
And clearly, of course - I'm having terrible behavior and judgment because some random members from another server brought their drama festival into my thread, and then I politely ask them to leave. That's very mean of me, and I apologize.
I've called the moderators to help "herd" some people out of here and into a thread made for the issue about jok3r09 - I'm fairly certain that they will agree that politely asking somebody to leave a thread should be respected. I've known them for over a year. Once the move happens, I'm going to politely ask you one last time - please leave this thread and bring this issue elsewhere. That is all I ask of you, and I hope it isn't too much to comprehend. I'm going to stay calm and casual, and not stray into hostile verbs. Okay?
EDIT:
I find it very interesting that everyone who has disagreed with me and spread this story so far is a voxel box member. And when I've linked some Steam users to this thread who aren't a part of any server, they seem to agree.
That's curious, isn't it, surathani?
Already called them kid, you don't need to lift a finger. Hostile words heh? "Your bed, you lay in it", than I got some more cheese for your whine. You show me the legal wordage that states you own this thread because you host a mc server?.... Wait, in fact don't; doesn't exist. They may to try and push liability on you if you approach "stupid" as you have been today, but the last thing you own, is this thread. Like I said, I am out.
You see, you have already posted and probably removed the post that states "you wont be contacting admins" no matter, the admins will see that; you then added "hand on the phone" and "call some people" So you say you meant admins? well that all a matter of interpretation, your intention means nothing. We will see how they feel about the intimidation you people have shown today. Regardless, I will remove this post if you and your "f**cked in the head" friend chill the f-out.
Your call.
Recruit away, move on, and grow up in the process.
Jok3r09 created the thread because I was on vacation at the time. The server itself was created in October, and I started the first thread and certified myself as the owner. I can link to it, if you doubt me.
I believe I have the authority, as the owner of the server, to ask you to "shoo" on any property the server (and thereby I) own.
However, I can see that this discussion is going in circles, so I will leave the next part to the authorities that we have apparently both called. I will await their decision.
Also, about the "i won't call the admins", I'm fairly certain that I typed afterwards "unless things get out of hand". Things have gotten out of hand. And I'm free to change my mind either way.
Now, I shall be patient and see what the moderators think about moving all of this drama to it's own thread.
Wow....I had forgotten how awful this was. I came to look at the thread and to see if dvar had made anything cool recently, and found myself in the middle of a full-on Turtley flame war. Good times....well, not really.
Wow....I had forgotten how awful this was. I came to look at the thread and to see if dvar had made anything cool recently, and found myself in the middle of a full-on Turtley flame war. Good times....well, not really.
Your new host has been chosen and the IP will be sent to all of the old Styx members via PM. This is to prevent others from logging onto the server and causing trouble. I thank you all for a wonderful time. I'll see you all soon!
Now, I'm going to ask all voxel-boxees or people affiliated with them, including those sent to this thread for a specified reason, to refrain from posting. We get it. You think it's creepy that jok3r09 is doing these things. But there are legit posts in here, and these farce notions are only going to stir up trouble and block out the legitimate conversations.
Please keep these things on your own property. I haven't called the moderators yet and I have no intention to until things get out of hand, but that still doesn't mean I'm not going to.
Now, if this heresy continues any further, I'm not going to try it the diplomatic way. In fact, I'm going to use some rather strong techniques to get you out.
I hope you respect our request.
- Styx Management (mainly Turtleey. actually, yeah, just Turtleey.)
So, is it because VoxelTronix is not public and you couldn't steal the code yet that you give credit to it?
I'm going to ask another time.
Please move this discussion elsewhere - this thread is for application and chatting about the server, not for dramatic hoosegow.
Tell that to your stalking minion, j0k3r
He isn't the one who posted a private conversation on the thread. In fact, you guys were. Everything was just peachy up until that point - jok3r isn't responsible for this, not to say I agree with his original actions involving the private chat.
Now, please, end this discussion and bring it elsewhere - and don't loop it around.
if by 'peachy' you mean until one of your server staff made veiled threats of violence against someone's wife, then yeah, nothing but peaches and dandelions. but the second that line was crossed, it really is a matter of public concern.
however you choose to spin what's happened, however you'd like to focus attention away from it, the fact is that j0k3r09 said this:
and that's something the minecraft community should be made aware of, even if you'd like it otherwise.
I'm going to walk you through this.
1: I'm aware that jok3r09 did these things and I do not represent his actions or decisions. I didn't know about this at all until ridgedog decided to go ahead and share a private conversation with the world, although I am rather concerned about what jok3r said.
2: Jok3r09 is no longer a part of our staff. You want to spread it around the minecraft community? Okay. I'm not against you. Freedom of the press, right? But he's no longer affiliated with Styx. If you want to make it well-known, don't post it on this thread, and don't mention Styx. Nobody but jok3r had any part of this, and he's not even going to be with us by tomorrow. And I am going to call some people if you decide to spread farce and heresy, despite my polite and justified request. And if you have no idea what the hell those words mean, I don't care. I'm being formal, unlike you all, copy-pasting the same discussion over and over - we get it. You think it's creepy.
3: Why should the "minecraft community" be made aware of this? Not that I'm for covering this up completely and forgetting it ever happened, but without Styx, he has no connections and no significance (sorry jok3r, somebody had to say it ) in the community. In fact, it seems like the only reason one would try to make this well-known is to either stop jok3r from hosting for future servers, or to simply "trash" Styx Reborn's reputation. And knowing Voxel Box and affiliates, I'm putting more likeness on one than the other. One thing, however, stated above, is that jok3r is no longer a part of our staff, nobody but him had any part of this, and he has no connection or significance to Styx after today. If you want to find some dramatic hubbub about one of Styx's staff, do it on somebody that's actually managing Styx. and i guess now you'll be stalking me for something embarrassing I do.
4: By "peachy", I clearly meant the amount of dramatic crap on the Styx thread - not peachy in all of the member's secret lives or on the server itself. In fact, shortly before the post was made, our server was "visited" by a lot of voxel box members and staff. In fact, for a few months, I'd thought that voxelbox had forgotten about us completely. It was tensing being with them in the first place, especially due to only recent events involving a plugin. Later, lots of griefing and client-hacking attempts were made - not that I'm pointing any fingers. Just providing examples of what went terrible yesterday. Things were NOT completely peachy up until "that" point, and you guys haven't changed that. Things have been difficult, especially to somebody in a managerial position. - jok3r09 leaving, deciding on a new host, debating about what to do for 1.8, and etc. This stint is just another thing to pull out hair about, and that's why, on top of all of the **** that's already happening, I want this to get out of my thread. Not nessecarily out of these forums, but just keep it away from Styx. I've said that several times now and I don't think I'm going to regret it, and I'm rather positive at least one person has the will to agree with me.
5: I certainly have not "spun" this around, and I am not the one you should be fighting against. Simply one post earlier, instead of respecting the server's wishes and giving this it's own thread, one just remarks that jok3r is my "slave" and continues posting. That's what I define as "spinning", what do you define it as, because I would certainly love to know. Another thing - I'm not trying to focus attention away from this at all. I would if jok3r was still the host and simply having him here while this discussion was going on would plummit the server. But he's not. Jok3r09 is no longer a part of the staff, and I'm not afraid of this getting popular. I just want this shitty drama bowl to get it's own thread - one that doesn't mention Styx, please, as forementioned, jok3r is no longer with us. So, please, feel free to show this to everyone you want to. I'm not against it. This doesn't make me "scared" at all, despite your possible attempts. Although, jok3r is my friend, and I would hate to see him in such a pickle, do what you must. Simply keep it away from this server and this thread. That is all I request. Perhaps, if you are willing, to "live and let live" with Styx and refrain from "visiting" us again, I would request that also.
And if anyone dare says "tl;dr", well, let's just say I have my hand on the phone.
What?
I'm rather confused. Can you point out, what point in my "wall of text" did I make an actual ban-worthy threat against you? Please show me.
Also, jok3r09's Minecraft Forum account has nothing to do with this whole thing at all. In fact, it was ridgedog who started this, not to point fingers on who deserves a ban. Jok3r09 had no choice but to reply, and none of his posts (or mine) have broken any Minecraft Forum rules. So you can begin your raid against the admins now, if you please.
Your buddies threat stands on its own. Hopefully someone makes him accountable, if I were you, I would wire my **** up and move on.
Okay, now you're seriously overreacting.
By "hand on the phone" and "call some people", I meant the moderators. I think they'll agree that this thread isn't the place for discussing crap, especially if the owner has politely asked you to leave several times. Do you honestly think that if somebody said tl;dr I would call a gang of thugs to beat them up? Yeah. Okay.
Out.
Now you're using some hostile words, pal.
The owner of the server, and thereby the legal owner of the server thread as well. That's right. I'm the founder and owner of Styx, not some random dandy member who's defending ever-so-godly jok3r. I hired jok3r back in March to host the server, not the other way around.
And clearly, of course - I'm having terrible behavior and judgment because some random members from another server brought their drama festival into my thread, and then I politely ask them to leave. That's very mean of me, and I apologize.
I've called the moderators to help "herd" some people out of here and into a thread made for the issue about jok3r09 - I'm fairly certain that they will agree that politely asking somebody to leave a thread should be respected. I've known them for over a year. Once the move happens, I'm going to politely ask you one last time - please leave this thread and bring this issue elsewhere. That is all I ask of you, and I hope it isn't too much to comprehend. I'm going to stay calm and casual, and not stray into hostile verbs. Okay?
EDIT:
I find it very interesting that everyone who has disagreed with me and spread this story so far is a voxel box member. And when I've linked some Steam users to this thread who aren't a part of any server, they seem to agree.
That's curious, isn't it, surathani?
Jok3r09 created the thread because I was on vacation at the time. The server itself was created in October, and I started the first thread and certified myself as the owner. I can link to it, if you doubt me.
I believe I have the authority, as the owner of the server, to ask you to "shoo" on any property the server (and thereby I) own.
However, I can see that this discussion is going in circles, so I will leave the next part to the authorities that we have apparently both called. I will await their decision.
Also, about the "i won't call the admins", I'm fairly certain that I typed afterwards "unless things get out of hand". Things have gotten out of hand. And I'm free to change my mind either way.
Now, I shall be patient and see what the moderators think about moving all of this drama to it's own thread.
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