I read on the wiki about this http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Quarry
and it says you can get "150 stacks of coal, 50 stacks of iron ore, 20 stacks of gold ore, 5 stacks of obsidian, and a maximum of 1 stack of diamond gems"
Is this accurate? It says may vary on size so i think this one is bigger than 20x20, does anyone know what i can expect from a 20x20 quarry besides like 50 million stacks of cobblestone?
Lol there's 400 blocks in a 20x20 square, and 150 stacks of coal is 9600 coal. Even if it was 150 COAl, not stacks of coal, it would be 226 ores our of 400 blocks, which will not happen.
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Lol there's 400 blocks in a 20x20 square, and 150 stacks of coal is 9600 coal. Even if it was 150 COAl, not stacks of coal, it would be 226 ores our of 400 blocks, which will not happen.
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Use volume, not area (20x20xNN where NN is the depth). If it's 20x20x60, there are 24k blocks
Lol there's 400 blocks in a 20x20 square, and 150 stacks of coal is 9600 coal. Even if it was 150 COAl, not stacks of coal, it would be 226 ores our of 400 blocks, which will not happen.
Math FTW
Use volume, not area (20x20xNN where NN is the depth).
Lol there's 400 blocks in a 20x20 square, and 150 stacks of coal is 9600 coal. Even if it was 150 COAl, not stacks of coal, it would be 226 ores our of 400 blocks, which will not happen.
Math FTW
Use volume, not area (20x20xNN where NN is the depth).
Lol there's 400 blocks in a 20x20 square, and 150 stacks of coal is 9600 coal. Even if it was 150 COAl, not stacks of coal, it would be 226 ores our of 400 blocks, which will not happen.
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You forgot depth. If it was at sea level and went down to bedrock, that is 20x20x64, which is 25600. 150 stacks of coal is 9600. 50 stacks of iron is 3200. 20 stacks of gold is 1280. 5 stacks of obsidian is 320. One stack of diamond is obviously 64. Add this all together, and it equals 14464. That is less than 25600. The remaining 11136 is stone, water, lava, air, or dirt. Assuming it is stone, that is 174 stacks of stone. So now the PERCENTAGES.
Total stacks of material: 400
Coal: 150=%37.5
Iron: 50=%12.5
Gold: 20=%5
Obsidian/lava: 5=%1.25
Diamond: 1=%0.25
Stone: 174=%43.5
Now that we all see these, I would say those numbers seem fairly plausible.
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Lol there's 400 blocks in a 20x20 square, and 150 stacks of coal is 9600 coal. Even if it was 150 COAl, not stacks of coal, it would be 226 ores our of 400 blocks, which will not happen.
its not all of those ores on the top layer its for the whole thing so its really 20x20x60-70 which will yield ~28,000 blocks or a little over 400 stacks total. the claim still seems pretty far fetched but not nearly as bad as you made it seem.
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Yeah I agree, those numbers are so wrong its laughable. I actually dug out a 25x25x8 area from the top most bedrock up, so basicly almost the entire area that diamond can appear, and I had a total of 3 viens of diamonds. And that was above average even. Came to about 20 diamonds. The odds of getting half a stack of diamonds is no doubt impossible nevermind an entire stack in a 20x20 area. On average you will probably only get about 5 diamond since in most cases you will get zero diamonds or just a single vien.
"Most quarries yield an average of 150 stacks of coal, 50 stacks of iron ore, 20 stacks of gold ore, 5 stacks of obsidian, and a maximum of 1 stack of diamond gems, though these results vary with the width, depth and location of your quarry [citation needed]"
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Yeah I agree, those numbers are so wrong its laughable. I actually dug out a 25x25x8 area from the top most bedrock up, so basicly almost the entire area that diamond can appear, and I had a total of 3 veins of diamonds. And that was above average even. Came to about 20 diamonds. The odds of getting half a stack of diamonds is no doubt impossible nevermind an entire stack in a 20x20 area. On average you will probably only get about 5 diamond since in most cases you will get zero diamonds or just a single vien.
Since there is exactly one diamond vein per chunk, you should have expected to get 2.44 veins on average digging out any given area the same size as the one you dug. So 3 is actually pretty close to average.
And the maximum possible you can get from a 25x25 area is 9 veins of diamond, which could well yield half a stack.
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I dug a 15x15 quarry and I dont think I got 10 stacks of coal, maybe 1 1/2 stacks of iron, some redstone, and 4 diamonds. That info is extremely inaccurate.
Only really dig a quarry if you want to have a giant open space or you want a ton of cobblestone.
That was a terrible, terrible wiki page. One of the worst I have seen anywhere. Pretty much everything on it is incorrect. Other examples:
1) The torches in the photo are almost all useless. You don't need to light up the walls. That has no effect on mobs. At the same time, the center of the quarry is dark enough at night in that photo to cause things to spawn and kill you...
2) Deserts and plains are not necessarily flat in minecraft.
3) How are airlocks "stealthy?"
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Przerwap, upon looking at some code I had just written: "...Gav... That's not how programming works."
I saw a thread some time ago about a quarry. This guy did something like 20x20 all the way down. I thought to myself; "I'll be epic and make it 64x64" which I then got bored with about 15 blocks down. (thats 64x64x15) so I abandoned it.
Later I discovered how to make effective mob gathering/grinding machines and I made a dirt level for animals and a few levels lower made a dark area for monsters.
Eventually I did try a 20x20 all the way down and it wasn't as profitable as I thought. I don't have the numbers but what I can tell you is that the following has proven very profitable for me.
I mined a stairway to bedrock.
I went up 11 and 14 blocks from the bedrock and made corridors about 64 long.
I then started mining every 3rd block down in a column like this: [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []
Inside those smaller corridors I went about 20 blocks deep or until my pick ran out/hit lava :ohmy.gif:
I've only done one side of one corridor and I've found approximately 1.5 stacks of silver, 3 stacks of coal, 15 gold, 2 stacks of redstone, and 4 diamond. These numbers are approximate.
Much of the information that led to me doing this method is from reading on these forums.
side view of the stairs /corridors(kinda like it anyhow):
[] [] []
[] [] []
[] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []
And the maximum possible you can get from a 25x25 area is 9 veins of diamond, which could well yield half a stack.
Where are you getting the 9 from? And I said in a 20x20 area that half a stack would be no doubt impossible, not a 25x25 area. And when I say no doubt impossible I mean the odds of it happening are so unlikly that its practicly impossible. And the amount being refered to in the wiki is suppose to be on average so to get half a stack on average is most deffinitly impossible, nevermind a full stack, since I imagine getting it even once in a lifetime is probably also impossible.
Where are you getting the 9 from? And I said in a 20x20 area that half a stack would be no doubt impossible, not a 25x25 area.
If you center the 25x25 (or 20x20) hole over a single chunk, you will be digging into nine chunks. With one diamond vein in each chunk, there is a chance you will get up to nine veins.
Vishna explained it, but just to add: it doesn't matter 20x20 versus 25x25. Both numbers are wider than one chunk and narrower than two chunks, so the maximum veins of diamonds is 9 in either case (although different likelihoods of finding such a thing)
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Przerwap, upon looking at some code I had just written: "...Gav... That's not how programming works."
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tutorials/Quarry
and it says you can get "150 stacks of coal, 50 stacks of iron ore, 20 stacks of gold ore, 5 stacks of obsidian, and a maximum of 1 stack of diamond gems"
Is this accurate? It says may vary on size so i think this one is bigger than 20x20, does anyone know what i can expect from a 20x20 quarry besides like 50 million stacks of cobblestone?
Math FTW
Use volume, not area (20x20xNN where NN is the depth). If it's 20x20x60, there are 24k blocks
Depth is about 60.
Ninja'd that in.
You forgot depth. If it was at sea level and went down to bedrock, that is 20x20x64, which is 25600. 150 stacks of coal is 9600. 50 stacks of iron is 3200. 20 stacks of gold is 1280. 5 stacks of obsidian is 320. One stack of diamond is obviously 64. Add this all together, and it equals 14464. That is less than 25600. The remaining 11136 is stone, water, lava, air, or dirt. Assuming it is stone, that is 174 stacks of stone. So now the PERCENTAGES.
Total stacks of material: 400
Coal: 150=%37.5
Iron: 50=%12.5
Gold: 20=%5
Obsidian/lava: 5=%1.25
Diamond: 1=%0.25
Stone: 174=%43.5
Now that we all see these, I would say those numbers seem fairly plausible.
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its not all of those ores on the top layer its for the whole thing so its really 20x20x60-70 which will yield ~28,000 blocks or a little over 400 stacks total. the claim still seems pretty far fetched but not nearly as bad as you made it seem.
Math FTW...
Since there is exactly one diamond vein per chunk, you should have expected to get 2.44 veins on average digging out any given area the same size as the one you dug. So 3 is actually pretty close to average.
And the maximum possible you can get from a 25x25 area is 9 veins of diamond, which could well yield half a stack.
Only really dig a quarry if you want to have a giant open space or you want a ton of cobblestone.
1) The torches in the photo are almost all useless. You don't need to light up the walls. That has no effect on mobs. At the same time, the center of the quarry is dark enough at night in that photo to cause things to spawn and kill you...
2) Deserts and plains are not necessarily flat in minecraft.
3) How are airlocks "stealthy?"
Later I discovered how to make effective mob gathering/grinding machines and I made a dirt level for animals and a few levels lower made a dark area for monsters.
Eventually I did try a 20x20 all the way down and it wasn't as profitable as I thought. I don't have the numbers but what I can tell you is that the following has proven very profitable for me.
I mined a stairway to bedrock.
I went up 11 and 14 blocks from the bedrock and made corridors about 64 long.
I then started mining every 3rd block down in a column like this:
Inside those smaller corridors I went about 20 blocks deep or until my pick ran out/hit lava :ohmy.gif:
I've only done one side of one corridor and I've found approximately 1.5 stacks of silver, 3 stacks of coal, 15 gold, 2 stacks of redstone, and 4 diamond. These numbers are approximate.
Much of the information that led to me doing this method is from reading on these forums.
side view of the stairs /corridors(kinda like it anyhow):
[] [] []
[] [] []
[] [] []
Where are you getting the 9 from? And I said in a 20x20 area that half a stack would be no doubt impossible, not a 25x25 area. And when I say no doubt impossible I mean the odds of it happening are so unlikly that its practicly impossible. And the amount being refered to in the wiki is suppose to be on average so to get half a stack on average is most deffinitly impossible, nevermind a full stack, since I imagine getting it even once in a lifetime is probably also impossible.
If you center the 25x25 (or 20x20) hole over a single chunk, you will be digging into nine chunks. With one diamond vein in each chunk, there is a chance you will get up to nine veins.
But yes, the wiki numbers are ridiculous