The OP has now been updated to include Nebudchadnezzar's & Baezon's locking double doors, as well as my own new design for a much simpler lockable automatic single door. The thread name has also been changed to reflect the variety of design tutorials now available.
If you have a design you feel is significantly different and wish to contribute, please leave it here and I will add it to the OP!
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Just a quick question, can a set of double doors be made to open simultaneously, and I mean at exactly the same time. I have made sets before and since one door will always be open and one closed (originally) the amount of set torches must always be unequel and therefore have a time lapse, correct?
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Just a quick question, can a set of double doors be made to open simultaneously, and I mean at exactly the same time. I have made sets before and since one door will always be open and one closed (originally) the amount of set torches must always be unequel and therefore have a time lapse, correct?
Unfortunately you are correct. Because the doors are in opposite states at any given time, one side must have an odd number of torches while the other has an even number in order to synchronize the two.
My simple door design uses only 1 torch, so it will have both the minimum delay between one door opening and then the other, and also the minimum delay between user input and the door's reaction.
Also thank you for the praise Zombies Ate Me, I would have quoted you but I am posting from a phone so multiple quotes are difficult.
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This is a request while I try to figure this out on my own [prob will fail horribly] BUT, here is my idea:
A set of double doors on one side of a wall with another set mirror imaged on the other. viewed from above they would look like this when open:
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air is air, half-tile is open door, stone is any wall type, flint n steel is trigger. Would this be possible with only 1 space in the middle (1 tile thick wall or does it need to be 2 thick). Can all 4 doors be opened from both sides with either of the triggers from 1 side: ie you step on on of the pressure plates and all 4 doors open?
This is a request while I try to figure this out on my own [prob will fail horribly] BUT, here is my idea:
A set of double doors on one side of a wall with another set mirror imaged on the other. viewed from above they would look like this when open:
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air is air, half-tile is open door, stone is any wall type, flint n steel is trigger. Would this be possible with only 1 space in the middle (1 tile thick wall or does it need to be 2 thick). Can all 4 doors be opened from both sides with either of the triggers from 1 side: ie you step on on of the pressure plates and all 4 doors open?
The general idea is possible and probably quite easy (very similar to my Simple Double Doors design), however there are a few problems with the layout you proposed.
Mainly, having the pressure plates directly adjacent (no space) to the doors as you showed would cause the plates to control the doors directly, which does not work with double doors since one door is "closed" when powered. This problem is solved in all of the other designs by placing the plates at least 1 block away from the doors, allowing current to be transferred through redstone wires rather than through adjacent blocks.
Also, having two sets of doors means that the wall must be atleast 2 blocks thick in order to hide the wiring that attaches to the doors. Alternatively, the power could be transferred from below using redstone torches, but this would introduce unnecessary size and delay in opening/closing.
Finally, I'm not entirely sure if it is possible to get the doors to open in opposite directions as I think you intended, though it probably is with clever placement orientation. If you would like me to give this a try, let me know; I am fairly certain I can build a system that fits your general purpose, albeit with some of the above compromises.
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Oh yeah, the space between the door and pressure plate wasn't part of my concern (that was just they way I have my single doors set up for ease of not needing to manually open them). My main question was the thickness of the wall 1 vs 2 blocks deep which you answered (thank you!) This all stemmed from an interesting idea I had for doors between room layouts which was (viewed from side):
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frame = door but oriented so that both doors appear to be touching middle block [still double doors so 4 doors]
The lava and half-block would go around the top edge of all my rooms which imo would look cool. Since you said there would need to be 2 block deep wall I'd have to change it a bit. If you want to take this as a cool challenge, I'd greatly appreciate if you could make an explanation of how you end up accomplishing it... OH also I DO want the doors to open out in opposite directions.
Oh yeah, the space between the door and pressure plate wasn't part of my concern (that was just they way I have my single doors set up for ease of not needing to manually open them). My main question was the thickness of the wall 1 vs 2 blocks deep which you answered (thank you!) This all stemmed from an interesting idea I had for doors between room layouts which was (viewed from side):
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frame = door but oriented so that both doors appear to be touching middle block [still double doors so 4 doors]
The lava and half-block would go around the top edge of all my rooms which imo would look cool. Since you said there would need to be 2 block deep wall I'd have to change it a bit. If you want to take this as a cool challenge, I'd greatly appreciate if you could make an explanation of how you end up accomplishing it... OH also I DO want the doors to open out in opposite directions.
I thought about it before going out earlier, and it is definitely much simpler with a 2-block thick wall. HOWEVER, I am also fairly certain I can make 1-block thick wall work if I use torches to transfer power. As I said before, this will introduce a slight bit of lag to the system, somewhere between 1/16 to 1/5 of a second depending on framerate. If you are okay with that little delay, I will probably be able to design the whole thing for you tomorrow night.
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This was a very useful tutorial for me so thanks a lot for writing it up. I did the first setup with the simple double doors. One thing noteworthy for me was that I did not want to have the door on the inside edge of the block so somebody on the outside can attack me through them, so I had to mirror the wiring to make it work with the doors at the other side. Also if you're a redstone newbie like me and you're wondering why the other door won't open, make sure the redstone torch is attached to the side of the extra block (and not at the bottom) like it says on the guide, instead of just trying to do it based on the pictures (who reads the manual anyways!?). :smile.gif:
This was a very useful tutorial for me so thanks a lot for writing it up. I did the first setup with the simple double doors. One thing noteworthy for me was that I did not want to have the door on the inside edge of the block so somebody on the outside can attack me through them, so I had to mirror the wiring to make it work with the doors at the other side. Also if you're a redstone newbie like me and you're wondering why the other door won't open, make sure the redstone torch is attached to the side of the extra block (and not at the bottom) like it says on the guide, instead of just trying to do it based on the pictures (who reads the manual anyways!?). :smile.gif:
edit: Added some () to make my intent more clear.
Thanks for the reply, glad it helped. I definitely tried to emphasize those common errors, perhaps ill put a FAQ/Troubleshooting guide at the end when I get some free time. Also thats a good point about flipping the orientation of the doors; I rarely have monsters at my door and another player could just press the button if they wanted to hit me so I didn't give that much thought. Glad to see you found the solution though!
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Great tutorial! Now i dont have a bunch of ugly wires running through my base just for a couple doors =D
Thanks, again if you or anyone else has any other layout ideas I'm open to requests. Still working on 50miler's design, my social life really picked up the last few days
Edit: UPDATE: Got 50miler's design working with a 1block thick wall and absolutely no interruption to the floor, including under the wall. The only downside is that it goes 3 blocks deep, so its pretty much only usable on the ground floor. In theory it could be simpler, but I can't seem to make it connect right any other way. Instructions/pics tomorrow hopefully.
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What do I have to do to the double door system to make it work with levers both from inside and from outside my house?
I've got it working - sort of. I can leave my house, but I can't go back in.
Im a complete redstone newbie (Seriously, took me about 3-4 in-game days to even get the pressure plate version working, and I had blueprints for that one *facepalm*) so trying to figure this out is giving me quite the headache.
How deep would my working space need to be? layout? How the hell do I get the outside switch to work?
I tried fiddling with inverters on both sides (basically made the layout of the wiring symetrical on both sides) but my doors didn't like that at all and started to spasm out until the wiring broke..
If someone could paint the scene for me or show me in the right direction to where I can find blueprints for this I'd very much appreciate it.
(...asking for help in my first post, im ashamed.)
Are you putting the levers on the ground or on the walls? If on the wall, you should be able to put a lever in place of the button on the outside, and a lever on a block on the other side of the doors on the inside. If you want them on the floor, you will have to strategically add a little wiring below the floor on the outside, but the main circuit should be the same.
Don't feel bad asking for help, redstone circuitry is difficult to pick up for anyone who doesn't have a strong science/engineering background in the real world. Let me know exactly what you're trying to do and I should be able to give you more specific instructions.
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ok so I made the simple door with lock but my torch keeps burning out. I've tried altering the design but everytime i step on the pressure plate the door opens and the torch burns out. any sudjestions???
Hey all,
not sure if anyone is reading this, but I found this out by accident and found it rather interesting.
When making the double automatic door, do everything as per above but when you go to set the doors, stand on the pressure plate. This causes the doors to automatically stay open unless you stand on the pressure plates. A bit easier than routing another torch in if you have limited space.
Trying to think of uses for it but thinking someone might have a good idea and run off with it.
--keep monsters out of hallways
--stopping a minecart that hits a pressure plate?
--keeping people locked in a room and tempting them with an open door :biggrin.gif:...all i could think of
ok so I made the simple door with lock but my torch keeps burning out. I've tried altering the design but everytime i step on the pressure plate the door opens and the torch burns out. any sudjestions???
If by burning out you mean that the torch turns off when you step on the plates, that is intended. The door should be placed by the player so that it is closed when powered, and open when unpowered. This is to prevent the lock from being "picked" by simply adding another power source adjacent to the door.
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I put them on the walls, lower walls ofcourse. (Also, I did the wiring both above and underground in my testings)
I could ALMOST get it to work, I could open both doors from the outside and the inside. BUT, if I opened from the outside, I also had to close from the outside, and vice versa. I couldn't for example enter from the outside using the lever there, and then close the doors from the inside using the interior lever.
Is it possible to wire it so that I can open from the inside/outside and then close from the outside/inside using levers on both sides? (hope that makes sense)
I hate buttons, they especially suck when you're being chased by something that wants to harm you badly. You press the button, door opens, you try to enter and they immediatly close in your face and whatever chased you goes to town on you. (Pressure plates suck too so I don't want those either)
I could just use a wooden door and forget about it all together, but the iron door looks with with my wooden 'door outline' of my house, so I kinda want to make it work somehow...
I have an idea that should work just fine, let me try it out and get back to you.
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Umm, for some reason on the simple double door, both prressure plates are only triggering one door. And the triggering is only closing the door.
Odd, have you tried removing the doors and replacing them again exactly the way the tutorial says? And if only one door is triggering, make sure your torch is properly attached to the block in the circuit, since it sounds like your circuit is being broken somewhere and that is a common mistake.
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Here are some pictures of 50miler's requested mirrored double doors setup. I will be writing a full tutorial of it soon, but for now hopefully you can figure it out from the pictures.
The center four torches transfer power to the doors, the outer two torches are inverters. The pressure plates sit centered in front of/behind the doors on the outside circuit, but NOT in the corner where the wire extends out.
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thanks for the help!
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Unfortunately you are correct. Because the doors are in opposite states at any given time, one side must have an odd number of torches while the other has an even number in order to synchronize the two.
My simple door design uses only 1 torch, so it will have both the minimum delay between one door opening and then the other, and also the minimum delay between user input and the door's reaction.
Also thank you for the praise Zombies Ate Me, I would have quoted you but I am posting from a phone so multiple quotes are difficult.
You just made my day.
The video was made by Nebuchadnezzar I believe, so you would have to ask him. It looks like he is using one of the Brown texture packs though.
A set of double doors on one side of a wall with another set mirror imaged on the other. viewed from above they would look like this when open:
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[] [] [] []
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air is air, half-tile is open door, stone is any wall type, flint n steel is trigger. Would this be possible with only 1 space in the middle (1 tile thick wall or does it need to be 2 thick). Can all 4 doors be opened from both sides with either of the triggers from 1 side: ie you step on on of the pressure plates and all 4 doors open?
The general idea is possible and probably quite easy (very similar to my Simple Double Doors design), however there are a few problems with the layout you proposed.
Mainly, having the pressure plates directly adjacent (no space) to the doors as you showed would cause the plates to control the doors directly, which does not work with double doors since one door is "closed" when powered. This problem is solved in all of the other designs by placing the plates at least 1 block away from the doors, allowing current to be transferred through redstone wires rather than through adjacent blocks.
Also, having two sets of doors means that the wall must be atleast 2 blocks thick in order to hide the wiring that attaches to the doors. Alternatively, the power could be transferred from below using redstone torches, but this would introduce unnecessary size and delay in opening/closing.
Finally, I'm not entirely sure if it is possible to get the doors to open in opposite directions as I think you intended, though it probably is with clever placement orientation. If you would like me to give this a try, let me know; I am fairly certain I can build a system that fits your general purpose, albeit with some of the above compromises.
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frame = door but oriented so that both doors appear to be touching middle block [still double doors so 4 doors]
The lava and half-block would go around the top edge of all my rooms which imo would look cool. Since you said there would need to be 2 block deep wall I'd have to change it a bit. If you want to take this as a cool challenge, I'd greatly appreciate if you could make an explanation of how you end up accomplishing it... OH also I DO want the doors to open out in opposite directions.
I thought about it before going out earlier, and it is definitely much simpler with a 2-block thick wall. HOWEVER, I am also fairly certain I can make 1-block thick wall work if I use torches to transfer power. As I said before, this will introduce a slight bit of lag to the system, somewhere between 1/16 to 1/5 of a second depending on framerate. If you are okay with that little delay, I will probably be able to design the whole thing for you tomorrow night.
edit: Added some () to make my intent more clear.
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Thanks for the reply, glad it helped. I definitely tried to emphasize those common errors, perhaps ill put a FAQ/Troubleshooting guide at the end when I get some free time. Also thats a good point about flipping the orientation of the doors; I rarely have monsters at my door and another player could just press the button if they wanted to hit me so I didn't give that much thought. Glad to see you found the solution though!
Thanks, again if you or anyone else has any other layout ideas I'm open to requests. Still working on 50miler's design, my social life really picked up the last few days
Edit: UPDATE: Got 50miler's design working with a 1block thick wall and absolutely no interruption to the floor, including under the wall. The only downside is that it goes 3 blocks deep, so its pretty much only usable on the ground floor. In theory it could be simpler, but I can't seem to make it connect right any other way. Instructions/pics tomorrow hopefully.
Are you putting the levers on the ground or on the walls? If on the wall, you should be able to put a lever in place of the button on the outside, and a lever on a block on the other side of the doors on the inside. If you want them on the floor, you will have to strategically add a little wiring below the floor on the outside, but the main circuit should be the same.
Don't feel bad asking for help, redstone circuitry is difficult to pick up for anyone who doesn't have a strong science/engineering background in the real world. Let me know exactly what you're trying to do and I should be able to give you more specific instructions.
not sure if anyone is reading this, but I found this out by accident and found it rather interesting.
When making the double automatic door, do everything as per above but when you go to set the doors, stand on the pressure plate. This causes the doors to automatically stay open unless you stand on the pressure plates. A bit easier than routing another torch in if you have limited space.
Trying to think of uses for it but thinking someone might have a good idea and run off with it.
--keep monsters out of hallways
--stopping a minecart that hits a pressure plate?
--keeping people locked in a room and tempting them with an open door :biggrin.gif:...all i could think of
cheers
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If by burning out you mean that the torch turns off when you step on the plates, that is intended. The door should be placed by the player so that it is closed when powered, and open when unpowered. This is to prevent the lock from being "picked" by simply adding another power source adjacent to the door.
I have an idea that should work just fine, let me try it out and get back to you.
Odd, have you tried removing the doors and replacing them again exactly the way the tutorial says? And if only one door is triggering, make sure your torch is properly attached to the block in the circuit, since it sounds like your circuit is being broken somewhere and that is a common mistake.
The center four torches transfer power to the doors, the outer two torches are inverters. The pressure plates sit centered in front of/behind the doors on the outside circuit, but NOT in the corner where the wire extends out.