Maybe the guy doesn't want you to know the server he is using for counting how many users are currently using it? There are too many valid reasons to list here for why that information would need to remain hidden. Although not a flawless, it makes it just a little more difficult for people to find that information out.
if there's hidden data that's obviously not meant to be open to eyes, then it's probably hidden so people don't find out about it. that makes it a bit suspicious
Exactly, as I already said. If it's hidden, it's hidden because the developer chose to hide it. At that point, it doesn't really matter in the least what it is-- the mere fact that it's hidden is sufficient cause to not trust it and not use it.
Hidden data = distrust? So I take it none of you ever play any commercial games ever? Or do you all magically some how acquire the source and encryption files for the various amounts of hidden data that may be in a game?
Do you check every single line of code from every program you download ever?
I find it hilariously retarded how much people do to secure their computers, when simple human intelligence makes all malware moot. I found simple virus scanners obsolete 10 years ago. And have not had any problems since. As in, no problems, not "no problems as far as I can see"
My rule of thumb is if any external app asks for a user/pw it get's promptly removed, doesn't matter who wrote it or what it does.
Then you are stupid and paranoid.
I sandbox any new applications that I will install. I get to monitor connections going out & in, and I can choose whether or not to let the connection through. This is simple.
Deleting software and possibly losing out is insanity. If you don't trust something, confirm your suspicions before taking action.
Yes, I absolutely am paranoid when it comes to personal user details. That makes me stupid?
Once you get off that throne of yours go **** yourself.
Any reason why my AV is flagging this as a java trojan? Also, I don't get false positives on keygens, so don't tell me that this is a FP.
Actually it's perfectly fine to suggest it's a false positive, given that no one else has mentioned an AV warning. Just because you don't get one with keygens doesn't mean you'll never get one. That's like saying I've never been hit by a car, but that doesn't mean it won't happen if I leap out into the road.
I get false positives on some trainers but not on others, all made by the same person with the same template. There's no rule on getting a false positive or not.
Also, to others, let's try to keep it civil in here if we're going to carry on this topic. Otherwise move on and find something else to complain about.
Maybe I missed something, but I've read, nor seen anything in this thread which suggests that this piece of code was "hidden" inside the application. Even if it does seem to be in some form, then just because it's not where you'd put it doesn't make it hidden. Everyone has their own unique way of writing code. I could write a program to do exactly the same things as this one, even have it look the same, but the code will look and feel drastically different, including having the same functions in different locations.
There's a lot of jumping to conclusions and assumptions in here, but not a lot of facts...
I'm quite sure that hacks are frowned apon in this community!
And anyway, this goes in the "maps and modding" section!
That's right!
I wasn't aware that it went in the maps section though, I wasn't even aware there was such a section. I was posting here because this plugin hack thing is only for Alpha. If the thread gets moved that's fine, but if it gets closed that will be quite irksome
From the rules:
NEVER:
Post Illegal Activity:
- Anything referring to Minecraft hacks;
I see that this is referring to Minecraft hacks, obviously, but there has to be some exception to this being that I'm not promoting it or encouraging others to use it. I'm discussing how this hack could be potentially dangerous and steal passwords, and being that people fall for dangerous stuff I thought it would be helpful to the community to mention a word of warning, ya know? (talking about how terrorism is bad doesn't make me a terrorist)
My rule of thumb is if any external app asks for a user/pw it get's promptly removed, doesn't matter who wrote it or what it does.
Then you are stupid and paranoid.
I sandbox any new applications that I will install. I get to monitor connections going out & in, and I can choose whether or not to let the connection through. This is simple.
Deleting software and possibly losing out is insanity. If you don't trust something, confirm your suspicions before taking action.
Not stupid, just paranoid. I think your conclusion was exaggerated and partially uncalled for. I'm extremely paranoid but smart enough to open up the source code to look if there was a possibility of harm, being paranoid was the reason I even thought to check it at all.
Though seorsum has their own way of dealing with external apps, I'm taking action to find out if this one is harmful or not. Being that it has a hidden file which I've yet to find out how to decode (the gif) I'm going to declare the program's security as unknown to myself and not use it because of that until further info is discovered.
Deserializing data from an image file is a fundamentally weird thing to be doing... Is that all of the code that directly references I.gif?
yes it is. i contacted the developer through youtube and he said it was part of a feature of the obfuscator he used, he said it was String encryption that's very easy to reverse
I have no idea. It just as easily could be malicious as it could not be. So why bother with the chances? Delete it now, as it auto updates. If it is malicious, you're screwed when he replicates it.
Common side effects include temporary blindness, vomiting, rashes, and a small penis. Uncommon side effects include death and paralyzation. Please ask your forum mod if MCCheat is right for you.
yes it is. i contacted the developer through youtube and he said it was part of a feature of the obfuscator he used, he said it was String encryption that's very easy to reverse
That seems plausible. The program is definitely building a string (presumably a URL) using the contents of I.gif.
There doesn't seem to be enough room in there to hide anything complicated, though. Open the file in a hex editor, if you want to see for yourself.
Deleting software and possibly losing out is insanity. If you don't trust something, confirm your suspicions before taking action.
You've got it exactly backwards.
no wars, pl0x? :biggrin.gif:
probably good if we stay on topic
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Common side effects include temporary blindness, vomiting, rashes, and a small penis. Uncommon side effects include death and paralyzation. Please ask your forum mod if MCCheat is right for you.
Hidden data = distrust? So I take it none of you ever play any commercial games ever? Or do you all magically some how acquire the source and encryption files for the various amounts of hidden data that may be in a game?
Do you check every single line of code from every program you download ever?
I find it hilariously retarded how much people do to secure their computers, when simple human intelligence makes all malware moot. I found simple virus scanners obsolete 10 years ago. And have not had any problems since. As in, no problems, not "no problems as far as I can see"
As you typed that your PC was part of the zombie farm that was DDOSing minecraft.net, gratz.
Rofl, so many computer security ignorant folk here. probably the same type of people whom leave your wireless network unprotected because its 'easier' to connect to. (thanks neighbors!)
I see nothing suspicious about that.
Exactly, as I already said. If it's hidden, it's hidden because the developer chose to hide it. At that point, it doesn't really matter in the least what it is-- the mere fact that it's hidden is sufficient cause to not trust it and not use it.
Do you check every single line of code from every program you download ever?
I find it hilariously retarded how much people do to secure their computers, when simple human intelligence makes all malware moot. I found simple virus scanners obsolete 10 years ago. And have not had any problems since. As in, no problems, not "no problems as far as I can see"
Yes, I absolutely am paranoid when it comes to personal user details. That makes me stupid?
Once you get off that throne of yours go **** yourself.
Actually it's perfectly fine to suggest it's a false positive, given that no one else has mentioned an AV warning. Just because you don't get one with keygens doesn't mean you'll never get one. That's like saying I've never been hit by a car, but that doesn't mean it won't happen if I leap out into the road.
I get false positives on some trainers but not on others, all made by the same person with the same template. There's no rule on getting a false positive or not.
Also, to others, let's try to keep it civil in here if we're going to carry on this topic. Otherwise move on and find something else to complain about.
Maybe I missed something, but I've read, nor seen anything in this thread which suggests that this piece of code was "hidden" inside the application. Even if it does seem to be in some form, then just because it's not where you'd put it doesn't make it hidden. Everyone has their own unique way of writing code. I could write a program to do exactly the same things as this one, even have it look the same, but the code will look and feel drastically different, including having the same functions in different locations.
There's a lot of jumping to conclusions and assumptions in here, but not a lot of facts...
WIP: Babylon 5 (On hold)
And anyway, this goes in the "maps and modding" section!
http://tinyurl.com/9l6km29
That's right!
I wasn't aware that it went in the maps section though, I wasn't even aware there was such a section. I was posting here because this plugin hack thing is only for Alpha. If the thread gets moved that's fine, but if it gets closed that will be quite irksome
From the rules:
I see that this is referring to Minecraft hacks, obviously, but there has to be some exception to this being that I'm not promoting it or encouraging others to use it. I'm discussing how this hack could be potentially dangerous and steal passwords, and being that people fall for dangerous stuff I thought it would be helpful to the community to mention a word of warning, ya know? (talking about how terrorism is bad doesn't make me a terrorist)
Not stupid, just paranoid. I think your conclusion was exaggerated and partially uncalled for. I'm extremely paranoid but smart enough to open up the source code to look if there was a possibility of harm, being paranoid was the reason I even thought to check it at all.
Though seorsum has their own way of dealing with external apps, I'm taking action to find out if this one is harmful or not. Being that it has a hidden file which I've yet to find out how to decode (the gif) I'm going to declare the program's security as unknown to myself and not use it because of that until further info is discovered.
yes it is. i contacted the developer through youtube and he said it was part of a feature of the obfuscator he used, he said it was String encryption that's very easy to reverse
Maps and MODDING
http://tinyurl.com/9l6km29
You've got it exactly backwards.
That seems plausible. The program is definitely building a string (presumably a URL) using the contents of I.gif.
There doesn't seem to be enough room in there to hide anything complicated, though. Open the file in a hex editor, if you want to see for yourself.
no
probably good if we stay on topic
i lol'd
As you typed that your PC was part of the zombie farm that was DDOSing minecraft.net, gratz.