As soon as you start, punch down 3 trees. take all the seeds, craft a crafting table, then make ONE wooden pickaxe, then break the crafting table with the pickaxe and take it with you.
Run to the nearest mountain and mine 3 stone. Bring out the crafting table again, and make a stone pickaxe. Break the crafting table again with the wooden pickaxe, then press q to throw it away. Go to the mountain if you left, then look for coal/iron and mine it. Gather as much as you can. After that build a shelter, or if it becomes dark while your mining, make a hole in the mountain and cover it with dirt or a door. Then continue to mine.
You should then have all the resources you need after the first night to look for a new location and build a fort there.
To make a pickaxe out of stone, (or anything) use this.
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You can replace the cobblestone with iron ingots, gold ingots, and diamonds.
To make ingots, craft a furnace.
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You can toss in to make :Iron:, to make :GoldBar:, to make :stone:, to make :Glass:, and to make :Bacon:.
You do not need to smelt to make :Diamond:.
To start the furnace, toss in :log:, :wood:, or :Coal:.
I would suggest crafting a wooden pickaxe ASAP and then mining the nearest stone you can get your hands on. Once you get stone, craft a stone pickaxe and mine more stone. Then craft a stone sword, which should help you deal with the mobs. Finally, once you've gotten a decent amount of stone, craft yourself a furnace and place it in your hut. If you aren't able to find any coal before nightfall, burn whatever wood you can in the furnace so that at least you have a little light (and imagined warmth, if you're on a winter map ;P).
In the day, do some exploring to find surface coal so that you can craft torches. When you have time, craft axes to chop trees for wood, while making sure to plant saplings in a tree farm so that you'll be ensured with a never-ending supply of wood.
With all that set, you can then start doing some spelunking to find iron and other goodies.
I would advise to make a permanent settlement quickly, as you will run out of inventory space rather quickly, so you would need to stash your stuff in a chest, which can pretty much only be in a permanent settlement if you want to be re-able to get the stuff later.....
I can get plenty of some things really quickly:
-Dirt
-Sand
-Wood
-Ham
-Wool
etc.
But I do NOT have immediate access to any kind of metals. I can make a wooden sword... but that doesn't help very much. I can't make a bow without killing a spider... which is hard with a wooden sword.
I don't want a giant walkthrough, just a few tips.
I tried making some pitfalls to trap spiders, but they seem to avoid it.
I also try hiding inside a wooden hut during the night, but spiders and creepers seem to wander around during the day if I do that. They are tough without a bow or a better sword.
This is what you do when you start a new game:
Step 1:
- Punch down a single tree that has a trunk( ) that is 2 or 3 blocks high.
- Note that punching down more than 1 tree is a waste of time.
- You might collect Saplings, it doesn't really matter.
Step 2:
- Open up your inventory and turn all the Logs( ) into Planks( )
== Steps 1 & 2 will consume approximately 1 entire minute ==
Step 3:
- Craft 1 Workbench( ) using 4 Planks( )
- Remember to place the Workbench in your ACTIVE INVENTORY (the bottom row of selectable blocks)!
- Craft 4 Sticks( ) using 2 Planks( )
== Step 3 is approximately a 20 second action ==
Step 4:
- Place the Workbench( ) in front of you (anywhere)
- Immediately build ONE wooden pickaxe.
- Punch (with fists) the Workbench( ) and collect it.
== Step 4 is approximately a 15 second action ==
Step 5:
- Find a mountain-like location or a location containing a wall of visible Stone( ) (A cave is fine, too.)
- Try to move towards the mountain/cave (I recommend mountain) and look for a location where visible, reachable Coal( ) is.
== Step 5 depends on map generation and spawn point. Wish on the stars that you find something close. ==
Step 6:
- Mine at least 6 Stone( )(you will receive Cobblestone( )) and mine any nearby Coal( )
- Make any Torches( ) with the wood you receive, but DO NOT USE YOUR ENTIRE SUPPLY OF WOOD!!!
- When you have mined your share of Coal( ) and some Stone( ), place your Workbench( ) and make at least ONE Stone Pickaxe and ONE Stone Axe (remember to make Sticks( ))
== Step 6 can take a few minutes, generally 2 to 5 minutes ==
With a Stone Pickaxe and a Stone Axe, you have a quick accessibility to more Wood and Iron! :biggrin.gif:
You can also make a Stone Sword, if you wish. After that, my suggestion is to seek Iron( ) and make better gear (especially a Sword if you are playing any mode besides Peaceful)!
You can use wood to make a temporary hut, but I advise not to re-collect the wood( ) used. Just find more trees( ).
There you have it. A easy walkthrough for your first 10 minutes of gameplay, even if you didn't ask for it. :tongue.gif:
Unless you use hacks to alter your player location, you won't need to worry about hitting the horizontal edge. It's about 8 size the times of the earth, so unless you spend several days walking in a straight line, you'll probably never reach the end.
1) No, infdev does not wrap. That's what makes it infinite.
2) Creative mode has bedrock at the bottom, not lava.
3) Lol you fell down.
When finding resources, caves are the way to go. Ypu get far higher iron, coal, diamond and gold siteings than just by mining (it's a lot more dangerous though).
If you can't find any coal at the start, strip-mine down from the surface at daytime. You can do this in a 5x5 or even less area with stone picks.
Was the infinite fall just a glitch for me, or is there really nothing down there?
Also... wouldn't it take a bit more than "several days" to walk around the earth? If this thing is 8x the size of Earth, it should take several years just to reach the edge, in theory. If it really is 8x, that is.
Yes, they hit it - but they used hacks to change their position.
The other posters outlined the first few steps well, which is racing to get a wood pickaxe, and then stone. I usually then look for tall cliffs... If I wander around tall cliffs, they'll have stone exposed so I can easily spot coal from a distance, often, right on the cliffs.
Once I've got torches, I head into the first cave I see. Iron is pretty easy to find in caves, now, if you have enough torches to look around a bit. I often build sand walls to keep the unexplored holes covered so I can collect the iron I find in peace. Once I have iron I usually return to where I started and build a base. (Having your base far away from your spawn point can be troublesome)
Everything in Minecraft is measured by metres, because Notch is a Swede. But yeah, it is impossible to walk across all of an infinite* Minecraft map in your lifetime without hacks.
Everything in Minecraft is measured by metres, because Notch is a Swede. But yeah, it is impossible to walk across all of a minecraft map in your lifetime without hacks.
How is it even possible to hack your way to the end. Is (0,0) or (0,0,0) on the grid located at the corner instead of the center? Even typing the ridiculous grid point out would take a day or two on its own.
And if it's graphical it'd take a year and a half to scroll to the edge.
I'm perplexed.
You use NBTedit to change your position to some really high power of two minus a few (the exact number is buried in Notch's blog) and you are there. He stopped it there because it messed up past there. Personally, I would have left it in because you have to be using hacks to get there, so it is a hacker's risk.
Was the infinite fall just a glitch for me, or is there really nothing down there?
Also... wouldn't it take a bit more than "several days" to walk around the earth? If this thing is 8x the size of Earth, it should take several years just to reach the edge, in theory. If it really is 8x, that is.
Yes, they hit it - but they used hacks to change their position.
By "days" I meant IRL days. :\
That's got me curious.
Is infdev 8x bigger TO SCALE, or 8x bigger literally, using the player character as a basis? What I mean is... the player character compared to the human being.
If the player character is 6 feet tall, that means that one block is approximately 3 cubic feet, right? Is infdev 8x bigger than our world, to scale, on a foot-per-foot basis? I'm using feet, of course, because I'm american. In meters, the player character would be 1.8288 meters. That would mean one block is 0.9144 meters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth
According to Wikipedia, Earth has a surface area of 510,072,000 km. That's 510,072,000,000,000 meters.
With one block being fairly close to 1 meter, does that mean that the surface area of infdev is 510,072,000,000,000 blocks?
Then on the speed factor, what is the walking speed factor of the player character? I'd say it's close to around 1 block per second, or 1 meter per second. At 1 meter per second, it would take quite a long while to circumnavigate the earth, even with no stopping. More than just a few days. Certainly at least a few years if you take hills and mountains into account. If it's just a straight shot though, that's 510,072,000,000,000 seconds to travel around the earth. That's 16,174,277.02 YEARS. 8x that is just an unreasonable number. Going at 2 meters per second is half that, which is still ridiculous.
So in Infdev, walking in a straight line, you're saying I couldn't possibly hit the end in my lifetime.
Well, actually, you start in the center, so it'd actually take half that time. Plus I think I read somewhere that you actually travel at roughly five blocks per second. It'd still probably take a ridiculous amount of time to traverse, though.
Also, I could be wrong, but I could've sworn I read somewhere that Notch originally planned to make the max map size 8x the surface area of the Earth, but that even then it got really buggy if you traveled very far, so he shrunk it to just about 1.8x the surface area of the Earth. (And it's even a little buggy on the edge of that too, particle effects tend to be in completely wrong locations and such.)
Even then, though, it'd still probably take at least a year or two of walking to reach the end, taking mountains and oceans and the fact that if you're not playing on peaceful you'll have to deal with monsters at night into consideration.
Also, you would need a pretty damn good computer to even come close.
When he said 8x the size of earth, that was the PHYSICAL GAME LIMIT. We have something like 3 million^2 m at hand, which is a fraction of the size of earth. The number is somewhere in notch's blog. He set the limit there beacause although the game works past it, it gets really weird.
Secondly, you don't start at the centre as such. you start at a point of origin, where all the grid references are calculated. When I go all the way north, and hit the game limit, you can't go anymore north, and I assume, NO MORE SOUTH, EAST OR WEST EITHER. This is because the game calculates not how far in one direction you went, but how many chunks were created.
Also, you must remember there is a 300 block rough radius around you where chunks will load as you walk. This means you are generating far more m^2 tan you ever will walk on.
It won't take 16 million years: only about 16. I can't be bothered doing calculations without a fixed number (in the blog) or working out the loading chunks around you + movement and generation of new chunks.
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That's nuts.
Why does it need to be 8x then?
Actually this is the wrong thread entirely. I'll stop asking now.
oops. I'm sorry...
EDIT: Atomizer, that is a really cool avatar. Just to let you know.
Make an axe to get wood faster.
Make a shovel to clear out dirt/sand/gravel faster to get to the stone.
Use stone to make better tools.
Use stone tools to find ores.
Use ores to make even better tools.
Run to the nearest mountain and mine 3 stone. Bring out the crafting table again, and make a stone pickaxe. Break the crafting table again with the wooden pickaxe, then press q to throw it away. Go to the mountain if you left, then look for coal/iron and mine it. Gather as much as you can. After that build a shelter, or if it becomes dark while your mining, make a hole in the mountain and cover it with dirt or a door. Then continue to mine.
You should then have all the resources you need after the first night to look for a new location and build a fort there.
To make a pickaxe out of stone, (or anything) use this.
[] []
[] []
You can replace the cobblestone with iron ingots, gold ingots, and diamonds.
To make ingots, craft a furnace.
[]
You can toss in to make :Iron:, to make :GoldBar:, to make :stone:, to make :Glass:, and to make :Bacon:.
You do not need to smelt to make :Diamond:.
To start the furnace, toss in :log:, :wood:, or :Coal:.
Pretty much all the info you need to get going.
Yes: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting
Refer to it often; it is your friend. :3
I would suggest crafting a wooden pickaxe ASAP and then mining the nearest stone you can get your hands on. Once you get stone, craft a stone pickaxe and mine more stone. Then craft a stone sword, which should help you deal with the mobs. Finally, once you've gotten a decent amount of stone, craft yourself a furnace and place it in your hut. If you aren't able to find any coal before nightfall, burn whatever wood you can in the furnace so that at least you have a little light (and imagined warmth, if you're on a winter map ;P).
In the day, do some exploring to find surface coal so that you can craft torches. When you have time, craft axes to chop trees for wood, while making sure to plant saplings in a tree farm so that you'll be ensured with a never-ending supply of wood.
With all that set, you can then start doing some spelunking to find iron and other goodies.
Good luck!
NINJAS!!!
This is what you do when you start a new game:
Step 1:
- Punch down a single tree that has a trunk( ) that is 2 or 3 blocks high.
- Note that punching down more than 1 tree is a waste of time.
- You might collect Saplings, it doesn't really matter.
Step 2:
- Open up your inventory and turn all the Logs( ) into Planks( )
== Steps 1 & 2 will consume approximately 1 entire minute ==
Step 3:
- Craft 1 Workbench( ) using 4 Planks( )
- Remember to place the Workbench in your ACTIVE INVENTORY (the bottom row of selectable blocks)!
- Craft 4 Sticks( ) using 2 Planks( )
== Step 3 is approximately a 20 second action ==
Step 4:
- Place the Workbench( ) in front of you (anywhere)
- Immediately build ONE wooden pickaxe.
- Punch (with fists) the Workbench( ) and collect it.
== Step 4 is approximately a 15 second action ==
Step 5:
- Find a mountain-like location or a location containing a wall of visible Stone( ) (A cave is fine, too.)
- Try to move towards the mountain/cave (I recommend mountain) and look for a location where visible, reachable Coal( ) is.
== Step 5 depends on map generation and spawn point. Wish on the stars that you find something close. ==
Step 6:
- Mine at least 6 Stone( )(you will receive Cobblestone( )) and mine any nearby Coal( )
- Make any Torches( ) with the wood you receive, but DO NOT USE YOUR ENTIRE SUPPLY OF WOOD!!!
- When you have mined your share of Coal( ) and some Stone( ), place your Workbench( ) and make at least ONE Stone Pickaxe and ONE Stone Axe (remember to make Sticks( ))
== Step 6 can take a few minutes, generally 2 to 5 minutes ==
With a Stone Pickaxe and a Stone Axe, you have a quick accessibility to more Wood and Iron! :biggrin.gif:
You can also make a Stone Sword, if you wish. After that, my suggestion is to seek Iron( ) and make better gear (especially a Sword if you are playing any mode besides Peaceful)!
You can use wood to make a temporary hut, but I advise not to re-collect the wood( ) used. Just find more trees( ).
There you have it. A easy walkthrough for your first 10 minutes of gameplay, even if you didn't ask for it. :tongue.gif:
(that's why I recommended it)
2) Creative mode has bedrock at the bottom, not lava.
3) Lol you fell down.
When finding resources, caves are the way to go. Ypu get far higher iron, coal, diamond and gold siteings than just by mining (it's a lot more dangerous though).
If you can't find any coal at the start, strip-mine down from the surface at daytime. You can do this in a 5x5 or even less area with stone picks.
A simple suggestion on geology here.
~~~
Slaves of the Coal Mine
An interesting Novel to pass the time.
Yes, they hit it - but they used hacks to change their position.
By "days" I meant IRL days. :\
Once I've got torches, I head into the first cave I see. Iron is pretty easy to find in caves, now, if you have enough torches to look around a bit. I often build sand walls to keep the unexplored holes covered so I can collect the iron I find in peace. Once I have iron I usually return to where I started and build a base. (Having your base far away from your spawn point can be troublesome)
You can, but why? Alpha has everything that infdev has plus more
You use NBTedit to change your position to some really high power of two minus a few (the exact number is buried in Notch's blog) and you are there. He stopped it there because it messed up past there. Personally, I would have left it in because you have to be using hacks to get there, so it is a hacker's risk.
Well, actually, you start in the center, so it'd actually take half that time. Plus I think I read somewhere that you actually travel at roughly five blocks per second. It'd still probably take a ridiculous amount of time to traverse, though.
Also, I could be wrong, but I could've sworn I read somewhere that Notch originally planned to make the max map size 8x the surface area of the Earth, but that even then it got really buggy if you traveled very far, so he shrunk it to just about 1.8x the surface area of the Earth. (And it's even a little buggy on the edge of that too, particle effects tend to be in completely wrong locations and such.)
Even then, though, it'd still probably take at least a year or two of walking to reach the end, taking mountains and oceans and the fact that if you're not playing on peaceful you'll have to deal with monsters at night into consideration.
Also, you would need a pretty damn good computer to even come close.
I think these infinite maps can now loop. O_o
What in that video gave you that idea? That flyby is all unique terrain, its not looping around to the start point again
J/K! :biggrin.gif:
Seems like I was replying off of rough memory. Hahaha. Oh well.
When he said 8x the size of earth, that was the PHYSICAL GAME LIMIT. We have something like 3 million^2 m at hand, which is a fraction of the size of earth. The number is somewhere in notch's blog. He set the limit there beacause although the game works past it, it gets really weird.
Secondly, you don't start at the centre as such. you start at a point of origin, where all the grid references are calculated. When I go all the way north, and hit the game limit, you can't go anymore north, and I assume, NO MORE SOUTH, EAST OR WEST EITHER. This is because the game calculates not how far in one direction you went, but how many chunks were created.
Also, you must remember there is a 300 block rough radius around you where chunks will load as you walk. This means you are generating far more m^2 tan you ever will walk on.
It won't take 16 million years: only about 16. I can't be bothered doing calculations without a fixed number (in the blog) or working out the loading chunks around you + movement and generation of new chunks.
oops. I'm sorry...
EDIT: Atomizer, that is a really cool avatar. Just to let you know.
A simple suggestion on geology here.
~~~
Slaves of the Coal Mine
An interesting Novel to pass the time.