ok..i was pretty excited for the h'ween update but after going to the nether i realized that theres only three materials there...lightstone, w/e the red **** is and gravel....besides annoying landscape and repeditive patterns on the lava below, whats the point besides using the three blocks in the real world...? please respond cause im curious.
If you need someone to tell you, then you lack imagination.
Besides the new block types and their many uses, the challenging terrain, and the ability to jump huge swaths of land via portals, its just a fun creepy place. If you cant enjoy it, your too needy.
The primary purpose is fast travel. It's been a bit buggy to start, but theoretically, there is a 1-to-8 distance ratio between the two realms - so a pair of portals ten blocks apart in the Nether would correspond to protals eighty blocks apart in the "Real World."
Sorry if this double posts (Last post didn't show up for me). Try building a fort on hard setting with ghasts shooting at you. Go ahead, try. Extra points if you do it on an island suspended above the lava.
All of the above. Not to mention you can make some pretty sweet aesthetic designs with the new blocks. And the gold block is (most likely) going to be used in the creation of lanterns. So yeah, just have fun with it!
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2. Massive quantities of mushrooms
3. Fast Travel
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Portals are also a pretty easy source for obsidian duplication given all the current bugs with teleportation. Even just removing unnecessary portals has kept my obsidian supply constant despite all the portals I've built, and I still have a load of duped portals hovering around my world that I'm too lazy to remove.
The Nether is a huge resource and labor saver as well. Instead of digging a 1600 meter tunnel between two bases and burning through 600 iron ingots to make rail, as well as dozens of boosters along the tracks, I can now build rail lines in the Nether with 75 iron ingots to cover the same distance. Mining the nethercobble is much faster than mining cobblestone, so it's easier to dig through, as well. So, after a fashion, the Nether just saved me the equivalent of at least 525 iron.
The Nether is a huge resource and labor saver as well. Instead of digging a 1600 meter tunnel between two bases and burning through 600 iron ingots to make rail, as well as dozens of boosters along the tracks, I can now build rail lines in the Nether with 75 iron ingots to cover the same distance. Mining the nethercobble is much faster than mining cobblestone, so it's easier to dig through, as well. So, after a fashion, the Nether just saved me the equivalent of at least 525 iron.
Exactly
I just laid down 5 stacks of rail in the Nether connecting my main portals. Now a 20 second rail ride gets me to the other side of my map which used to take 10 times as long and 10 times as much rail.
The glowing stuff is most likely going to be needed to craft lanterns, and by crafting together 9 powders you get a block of the stuff and can use it as underwater lightning, as a "disco floor" or as ceiling lights.
Edit: Oh yeah there's that mud/tar/whatever block, too, that slows down anything walking through it.
It slows down monsters and could be used as a part of your defense systems.
There's one problem with the first statement and it's that how will you be able to make a portal without lava and water? I'd feel less confident going into the earth with temporary light just to make a few permanent ones. Just saying.
Second, mud doesn't spawn on new maps any more, and I'm pretty sure this includes new chunks.
If not, I'm ****ed.
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The ever burning nether stone would be more valuable if wood didn't already burn for (almost) forever. It may burn out, but I've had a fire place going with wood now for a month real time, however long that is in game time, and a couple trees I set on fire the first time I made a fire starter are still burning, and that's a couple weeks longer. I would presume that would be fixed sometime in the future, but until then, the ever burning aspect of the stuff from the nether isn't so useful. Does make a nice decorative stone though.
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ok..i was pretty excited for the h'ween update but after going to the nether i realized that theres only three materials there...lightstone, w/e the red **** is and gravel....besides annoying landscape and repeditive patterns on the lava below, whats the point besides using the three blocks in the real world...? please respond cause im curious.
There's actually alot of uses for it. I've spent alot of time in there, so lets see if I can sum this all up efficiently here:
1. Fast travel. That's what the Nether was implemented for in the first place. If you're willing to brave the dangers of the place, it is the fastest way to get anywhere in the overworld, period. I dunno how I ever travelled without it.
2. Mushrooms! Mushrooms make pretty much the best healing item in the game (the golden apple not counting because it's bloody impossible to get), yet in the overworld they can be really blasted hard to find much of the time. The Nether, though, has alot of both types of mushrooms.
3. Hellstone. Useful material. The red block that makes up the majority of the place. The stuff tends to stand out in the overworld, breaks very easily to one swipe of a pickaxe, and burns infinitely when set on fire. Iv'e been using it as beacons or as other stuff. I use it alot also when I'm spelunking; it is great if I need to mark certain spots, or temporarily block off a passage due to monsters (since I can then very quickly remove it when I want to).
4. Lava. Crap, but there's alot of lava here....
5. Screaming mud. You know, the block that slows you down, looks like it's got alot of little faces on it.... did you know that boats not only cant crash on it, but will also stick to it and NOT ZOOM AWAY STUPIDLY WHEN YOU TRY TO GET OFF? Makes SUPERB docks. I really wish I'd known this sooner.
6. Lightstone. Right now, this doesnt really DO anything specific.... though my theory is that it'll be necessary to make lanterns later.... but it can at least be used for interesting decorative purposes. Good luck getting it though. One of the hardest block types to mine in the game, due to it's position and the fact that ghasts are so aggressive.
7. Pigmen are funny. Watch them wander into flames.
So yeah... I've found alot of uses for it myself. Take some time and experiment, and come up with your own uses for it. But dont forget; it was put in as a method of fast travel. It's not meant to be a place that you dig through for rare ores or anything like that; it's meant to help you GET TO places where you can do that.
Besides the new block types and their many uses, the challenging terrain, and the ability to jump huge swaths of land via portals, its just a fun creepy place. If you cant enjoy it, your too needy.
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2. Massive quantities of mushrooms
3. Fast Travel
4. Insane quantities of lava
Portals are also a pretty easy source for obsidian duplication given all the current bugs with teleportation. Even just removing unnecessary portals has kept my obsidian supply constant despite all the portals I've built, and I still have a load of duped portals hovering around my world that I'm too lazy to remove.
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Exactly
I just laid down 5 stacks of rail in the Nether connecting my main portals. Now a 20 second rail ride gets me to the other side of my map which used to take 10 times as long and 10 times as much rail.
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There's one problem with the first statement and it's that how will you be able to make a portal without lava and water? I'd feel less confident going into the earth with temporary light just to make a few permanent ones. Just saying.
Second, mud doesn't spawn on new maps any more, and I'm pretty sure this includes new chunks.
If not, I'm ****ed.
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There's actually alot of uses for it. I've spent alot of time in there, so lets see if I can sum this all up efficiently here:
1. Fast travel. That's what the Nether was implemented for in the first place. If you're willing to brave the dangers of the place, it is the fastest way to get anywhere in the overworld, period. I dunno how I ever travelled without it.
2. Mushrooms! Mushrooms make pretty much the best healing item in the game (the golden apple not counting because it's bloody impossible to get), yet in the overworld they can be really blasted hard to find much of the time. The Nether, though, has alot of both types of mushrooms.
3. Hellstone. Useful material. The red block that makes up the majority of the place. The stuff tends to stand out in the overworld, breaks very easily to one swipe of a pickaxe, and burns infinitely when set on fire. Iv'e been using it as beacons or as other stuff. I use it alot also when I'm spelunking; it is great if I need to mark certain spots, or temporarily block off a passage due to monsters (since I can then very quickly remove it when I want to).
4. Lava. Crap, but there's alot of lava here....
5. Screaming mud. You know, the block that slows you down, looks like it's got alot of little faces on it.... did you know that boats not only cant crash on it, but will also stick to it and NOT ZOOM AWAY STUPIDLY WHEN YOU TRY TO GET OFF? Makes SUPERB docks. I really wish I'd known this sooner.
6. Lightstone. Right now, this doesnt really DO anything specific.... though my theory is that it'll be necessary to make lanterns later.... but it can at least be used for interesting decorative purposes. Good luck getting it though. One of the hardest block types to mine in the game, due to it's position and the fact that ghasts are so aggressive.
7. Pigmen are funny. Watch them wander into flames.
So yeah... I've found alot of uses for it myself. Take some time and experiment, and come up with your own uses for it. But dont forget; it was put in as a method of fast travel. It's not meant to be a place that you dig through for rare ores or anything like that; it's meant to help you GET TO places where you can do that.