Miclee,
Notch took a small amount of work from you and while worthy of some praise (a single line in the credits) you've allowed it all to go to your head. You developed a skin and you know someone who made a skin that is in use in the game. I understand you have a borderline fetish for pigmen and have developed a tl;dr mythos for them. But as this game simplifies everything, probably none of your ideas will be used in the game. You have ruined many threads demanding the forums glorify and praise you for your accomplishment. You have even asked for donations for your "work" which is inappropriate even if anything of yours had made it to the game yet. Notch developed everything that allows pigmen to run at all did the grunt programming for them and took a proffered and well done piece of pixel art for the skin. The idea that you deserve credit is completely ludicrous. I hope Notch has the good sense to use another skin possibly made by his new in house artist before pigmen come out so that your claims don't have to be dealt with.
Mod edit: Please stay on topic. This forum is not the place to post your personal gripes about another user, unless this is the "Hey guys what do you think of my recent behavior?" thread. which it's not.
A place to discuss (zombie)pigmen and their complete awesomeness!
HOW is this thread official? Read below.
If you didn't know, I'm the one who originally came up with the idea of pigmen and zombie pigmen. The base pigman skin(found in the mobs folder) was made by me, and the original zombie version was made by my friend X__x(aka XaPhoba).
Zombie pigmen are now ingame, and hopefully regular pigmen will be added soon(with accompanying villages).
So, discuss.
I can't speak for everyone, but I personally don't care that you came up with the idea for pigmen. Minecraft is basically a modding community, so the game is built around the community contributing to the game as a whole. We come up with ideas, Notch executes, Minecraft gets better. Pigmen was a good idea, but there's no need to unnecessarily brag about it IMO. (Which is how you are coming off)
Though maybe you should get a title in forums, "Chief Pigman", so no one else can claim credit for your idea, and you can stop gloating.
A place to discuss (zombie)pigmen and their complete awesomeness!
HOW is this thread official? Read below.
If you didn't know, I'm the one who originally came up with the idea of pigmen and zombie pigmen. The base pigman skin(found in the mobs folder) was made by me, and the original zombie version was made by my friend X__x(aka XaPhoba).
Zombie pigmen are now ingame, and hopefully regular pigmen will be added soon(with accompanying villages).
So, discuss.
I can't speak for everyone, but I personally don't care that you came up with the idea for pigmen. Minecraft is basically a modding community, so the game is built around the community contributing to the game as a whole. We come up with ideas, Notch executes, Minecraft gets better. Pigmen was a good idea, but there's no need to unnecessarily brag about it IMO. (Which is how you are coming off)
Though maybe you should get a title in forums, "Chief Pigman", so no one else can claim credit for your idea, and you can stop gloating.
Not to flame you or anything, but:
1. This isn't an official thread. And official thread would be a thread made by a moderator or administrator of the forums. Besides, this thread serves no purpose whatsoever. There are already threads that are discussing Pigmen.
2. We really dont care that you made the idea for pigmen. The whole thing isn't implemented yet (Your idea is villages or pigmen, only zombie pigmen have been added. Notch may have said that he would include villages of them in the future, but we all know how often Notch changes his mind. And im pretty sure he only put them in because he liked the skin...)
3. Dont expect donations, dont even put a donation link in your sig just because you thought of an idea. Thats like me putting "If you liked my post, you can donate to me at..." into my signature. No one is going to donate, and it makes me look like an idiot.
4. You dont deserve any special titles or privilages for making an idea that Notch used. No one does, Notch has probably gotten ideas from alot of people. Someone probably suggested something similar to the Ghast, and Notch changed it a bit to fit with the game, who knows? Getting part of your idea in the game doesn't make you special.
You've lost all respect from me, and probably a few other forum members. Good day.
One of the difficulties with zombie pig men (zpm) is if you die and drop all your stuff upon returning you have to fight through hoards of enraged zpm and your inventory quickly fills with bacon Although you constantly eat the bacon by the time you get to your stuff your inventory is mostly bacon There are still uncooked undead trying to kill you and bacon everywhere So you cant pickup your stuff and some of it bacon
i still don't Understand your post even without the bacon everywhere
And obviously, none of you have read the thread itself. It's for discussing pigmen/zombie pigmen. The part in the OP was to clarify on how this was 'official'. If you'd read the thread(and not just troll, which breaks forum rules), you would know I made this thread to stop the constant flow of new threads about pigmen/make the 'Halloween update' forum more organized.
The donation link in my signature will go toward getting a dedicated box for hosting a server for viewtopic.php?f=1016&t=71196
Thanks to those who actually read the thread and are trying to stay on-topic.
OH MY GOD
If you hate against miclee, you hate against minecraft!!!
Minecraft is all about community and fun.
HE, being part of the MINECRAFT COMMUNITY, tried to improve minecraft.
AND GUESS WHAT, HIS IDEA WAS GOOD, SO NOTCH PUT IT IN!.
Are you gona try to say that all of the plugin developers are also showoffs?
What about hey0? huh? What if someone took a piece of his work, and gave it the wrong name...then went on to say "well its freedom of speech, so we can name it what we want". I think he might be a tiny bit annoyed.
EVERYONE HERE WHO IS SAYING "FAGMICLEE" AND BEING IMMATURE: GO TO A DIFFERENT THREAD
period.
AND BTW
He already gave his reason for donations...If you could actually appreciate someone trying to improve something FOR ALL OF YOU...then you would have a reason to donate maybe. But if you dont, just save us the reading, and save yourselves the embarrassment of saying that his donations are pathetic...because its you jealousy fueled, rotten minecrafters that are pathetic...
Mod edit: I know your intentions are good, but it's still off-topic. Better to report and let the mods (eventually) deal with these people, it makes it easier to avoid further argument that way anyway.
(Back to the OFFICIAL subject)
I hate the nether only because of the ficken sounds those damn zombie pigmen make T-T...
my 1st play in the nether was on the night of the release and i had a nightmare because of it!
(okay, maybe im kind of a wimp when it comes to scary stuff...but hey.....its fricken scary)
and i had no idea that they wouldnt attack me at first....so i died a lot....
(SNIP). . . I hope Notch has the good sense to use another skin possibly made by his new in house artist before pigmen come out so that your claims don't have to be dealt with.
I think it, and you said it. I'm sure most/all of the pixel art in the game will get some degree of an overhaul, pigmen included. I can't wait to see how they look. . .maybe I can donate some money to junkboy. . .do you think he has a paypal link in his forum sig?
Mod edit: User was warned for this post. That last line is a cheap shot and you know it.
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And I want a monkey butler. Just because you want something doesn't mean you get it.
I hate the nether only because of the ficken sounds those damn zombie pigmen make T-T...
my 1st play in the nether was on the night of the release and i had a nightmare because of it!
(okay, maybe im kind of a wimp when it comes to scary stuff...but hey.....its fricken scary)
and i had no idea that they wouldnt attack me at first....so i died a lot....
If you want them to stop attacking you, simply go on peaceful, then back to easy/medium/hard.
OH MY GOD
If you hate against miclee, you hate against minecraft!!!
Minecraft is all about community and fun.
HE, being part of the MINECRAFT COMMUNITY, tried to improve minecraft.
AND GUESS WHAT, HIS IDEA WAS GOOD, SO NOTCH PUT IT IN!.
Are you gona try to say that all of the plugin developers are also showoffs?
What about hey0? huh? What if someone took a piece of his work, and gave it the wrong name...then went on to say "well its freedom of speech, so we can name it what we want". I think he might be a tiny bit annoyed.
EVERYONE HERE WHO IS SAYING "FAGMICLEE" AND BEING IMMATURE: GO TO A DIFFERENT THREAD
period.
AND BTW
He already gave his reason for donations...If you could actually appreciate someone trying to improve something FOR ALL OF YOU...then you would have a reason to donate maybe. But if you dont, just save us the reading, and save yourselves the embarrassment of saying that his donations are pathetic...because its you jealousy fueled, rotten minecrafters that are pathetic...
(Back to the OFFICIAL subject)
I hate the nether only because of the ficken sounds those damn zombie pigmen make T-T...
my 1st play in the nether was on the night of the release and i had a nightmare because of it!
(okay, maybe im kind of a wimp when it comes to scary stuff...but hey.....its fricken scary)
and i had no idea that they wouldnt attack me at first....so i died a lot....
I can see why you side with him so viciously.
Your post has "poumpous ****" written all over it.
Which is why we don't have respect for him.
Yes, it's nice that he did what he did, but it's the fact that he expects everyone to treat him like a god after the fact.
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In short, I respect the action, not the man.
Like Hitler, but in reverse.
Sroag has five posts. Three ar in a suggestion I couldn't be bothered to read, but smelled of pig men. The other two defended Miclee.
Aka, Sroag is an alternate account of Miclee's, amde to defend him in this losing argument.
Oh, and pm me if you want to send me a donation for pointing this out.
Wait, what? Reported for trolling/making accusations.
Yes, I accused you of making a second account to help your argument. That isn't against the rules as far as I know, but it is stupid.
And how am I trolling? Is any post you don't like trolling?
And so I can't be accused of never being on topic:
I wonder if pigmen would likely have material preferences? Like, if they could make a house out of either dirt or obsidian, would they choose the stronger material?
And how would the react to every exit of their village having pressure pads wired to a crudload of TNT lying directly benath their homes?
Mod edit: You can still be accused of being sometimes off-topic, which I'd prefer you to not be. Please remain on topic the whole time.
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"Madness and knowledge are twin sisters, and sometimes we have to think wild thoughs before we can truly understand."
Yes, I accused you of making a second account to help your argument. That isn't against the rules as far as I know, but it is stupid.
And how am I trolling? Is any post you don't like trolling?
The trolling part was 'Oh, and pm me if you want to send me a donation for pointing this out.'
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And so I can't be accused of never being on topic:
I wonder if pigmen would likely have material preferences? Like, if they could make a house out of either dirt or obsidian, would they choose the stronger material?
And how would the react to every exit of their village having pressure pads wired to a crudload of TNT lying directly benath their homes?
I know. This is a thread to actually discuss pigmen, and not research them.
What they pass for legit research is laughable though lol.
True, but it's alright for people to exaggerate a bit(though some of it makes no sense at all).
Exaggerate yes, it happens and I understand it. However when you do any research it's important that you study more than one group, and use a control group no matter how small the experiment is.
Bunch of pigmen gather around tnt? *gasp* they must like it.
If they used a control group they'd realize they gather around any player placed block, because they spawn around the players location.
I rather enjoy the challenge they present, as you said, it fits quite well. Though I did prefer the old skin(with blood), green doesn't fit well in the Nether.
I happen to think green fits in incredibly well.. and I'll tell you why.
As most of us know, Creepers, those hugable green exploding phallic things, came about because of a failed Pig model. Creepers seem mindless in their endeavours to blow you up while Pigs generally stay to themselves and only follow you out of curiosity (or perhaps shelter during nighttime).
I have a theory that when Pigs die, they go to the Nether where they start to slowly transform into Creepers. They start out their woeful new lives by arriving in the Nether as Pigmen. Alone and afraid, they seek out others of their kind to stay alive. They are at a constant battle with the other denizen of the Nether.. the Ghasts. the Ghasts hunt the Pigmen for food, and the Pigmen have to do everything in their power to win. They create crude weapons out of the surrounding resources in order to fight for their lives.
Because the Nether is so dangerous, most Pigmen get open wounds and burns, leaving them vulnerable to diseases. Upon slaying a Ghast, many pigmen are sprayed with a mixture of Gunpowder and flammable fluids that erupt from the defeated Ghast. which begins the horrible cycle of turning these unfortunates into Zombie Pigmen. Zombie Pigmen slowly begin to lose their minds as their bodies begin to rot and twist into the disturbing shape of a Creeper.
When the transformation is complete, the Creepers blink out of the Nether and populate our own to continue the mindset of a Creeper; explode things.
I rather enjoy the challenge they present, as you said, it fits quite well. Though I did prefer the old skin(with blood), green doesn't fit well in the Nether.
I happen to think green fits in incredibly well.. and I'll tell you why.
As most of us know, Creepers, those hugable green exploding phallic things, came about because of a failed Pig model. Creepers seem mindless in their endeavours to blow you up while Pigs generally stay to themselves and only follow you out of curiosity (or perhaps shelter during nighttime).
I have a theory that when Pigs die, they go to the Nether where they start to slowly transform into Creepers. They start out their woeful new lives by arriving in the Nether as Pigmen. Alone and afraid, they seek out others of their kind to stay alive. They are at a constant battle with the other denizen of the Nether.. the Ghasts. the Ghasts hunt the Pigmen for food, and the Pigmen have to do everything in their power to win. They create crude weapons out of the surrounding resources in order to fight for their lives.
Because the Nether is so dangerous, most Pigmen get open wounds and burns, leaving them vulnerable to diseases. Upon slaying a Ghast, many pigmen are sprayed with a mixture of Gunpowder and flammable fluids that erupt from the defeated Ghast. which begins the horrible cycle of turning these unfortunates into Zombie Pigmen. Zombie Pigmen slowly begin to lose their minds as their bodies begin to rot and twist into the disturbing shape of a Creeper.
When the transformation is complete, the Creepers blink out of the Nether and populate our own to continue the mindset of a Creeper; explode things.
That's actually a really awesome little story. :tongue.gif:
Notch took a small amount of work from you and while worthy of some praise (a single line in the credits) you've allowed it all to go to your head. You developed a skin and you know someone who made a skin that is in use in the game. I understand you have a borderline fetish for pigmen and have developed a tl;dr mythos for them. But as this game simplifies everything, probably none of your ideas will be used in the game. You have ruined many threads demanding the forums glorify and praise you for your accomplishment. You have even asked for donations for your "work" which is inappropriate even if anything of yours had made it to the game yet. Notch developed everything that allows pigmen to run at all did the grunt programming for them and took a proffered and well done piece of pixel art for the skin. The idea that you deserve credit is completely ludicrous. I hope Notch has the good sense to use another skin possibly made by his new in house artist before pigmen come out so that your claims don't have to be dealt with.
Mod edit: Please stay on topic. This forum is not the place to post your personal gripes about another user, unless this is the "Hey guys what do you think of my recent behavior?" thread. which it's not.
I can't speak for everyone, but I personally don't care that you came up with the idea for pigmen. Minecraft is basically a modding community, so the game is built around the community contributing to the game as a whole. We come up with ideas, Notch executes, Minecraft gets better. Pigmen was a good idea, but there's no need to unnecessarily brag about it IMO. (Which is how you are coming off)
Though maybe you should get a title in forums, "Chief Pigman", so no one else can claim credit for your idea, and you can stop gloating.
Mod edit: Please stay on topic.
Do you own Minecraft?
You're speaking for about 80% of it. ;_;
Mod edit: You too. On-topic posting only please.
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Not to flame you or anything, but:
1. This isn't an official thread. And official thread would be a thread made by a moderator or administrator of the forums. Besides, this thread serves no purpose whatsoever. There are already threads that are discussing Pigmen.
2. We really dont care that you made the idea for pigmen. The whole thing isn't implemented yet (Your idea is villages or pigmen, only zombie pigmen have been added. Notch may have said that he would include villages of them in the future, but we all know how often Notch changes his mind. And im pretty sure he only put them in because he liked the skin...)
3. Dont expect donations, dont even put a donation link in your sig just because you thought of an idea. Thats like me putting "If you liked my post, you can donate to me at..." into my signature. No one is going to donate, and it makes me look like an idiot.
4. You dont deserve any special titles or privilages for making an idea that Notch used. No one does, Notch has probably gotten ideas from alot of people. Someone probably suggested something similar to the Ghast, and Notch changed it a bit to fit with the game, who knows? Getting part of your idea in the game doesn't make you special.
You've lost all respect from me, and probably a few other forum members. Good day.
Mod edit: On topic, please.
i still don't Understand your post even without the bacon everywhere
The donation link in my signature will go toward getting a dedicated box for hosting a server for viewtopic.php?f=1016&t=71196
Thanks to those who actually read the thread and are trying to stay on-topic.
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If you hate against miclee, you hate against minecraft!!!
Minecraft is all about community and fun.
HE, being part of the MINECRAFT COMMUNITY, tried to improve minecraft.
AND GUESS WHAT, HIS IDEA WAS GOOD, SO NOTCH PUT IT IN!.
Are you gona try to say that all of the plugin developers are also showoffs?
What about hey0? huh? What if someone took a piece of his work, and gave it the wrong name...then went on to say "well its freedom of speech, so we can name it what we want". I think he might be a tiny bit annoyed.
EVERYONE HERE WHO IS SAYING "FAGMICLEE" AND BEING IMMATURE: GO TO A DIFFERENT THREAD
period.
AND BTW
He already gave his reason for donations...If you could actually appreciate someone trying to improve something FOR ALL OF YOU...then you would have a reason to donate maybe. But if you dont, just save us the reading, and save yourselves the embarrassment of saying that his donations are pathetic...because its you jealousy fueled, rotten minecrafters that are pathetic...
Mod edit: I know your intentions are good, but it's still off-topic. Better to report and let the mods (eventually) deal with these people, it makes it easier to avoid further argument that way anyway.
(Back to the OFFICIAL subject)
I hate the nether only because of the ficken sounds those damn zombie pigmen make T-T...
my 1st play in the nether was on the night of the release and i had a nightmare because of it!
(okay, maybe im kind of a wimp when it comes to scary stuff...but hey.....its fricken scary)
and i had no idea that they wouldnt attack me at first....so i died a lot....
I think it, and you said it. I'm sure most/all of the pixel art in the game will get some degree of an overhaul, pigmen included. I can't wait to see how they look. . .maybe I can donate some money to junkboy. . .do you think he has a paypal link in his forum sig?
Mod edit: User was warned for this post. That last line is a cheap shot and you know it.
If you want them to stop attacking you, simply go on peaceful, then back to easy/medium/hard.
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the zombie pigmen have pants.
Sroag has five posts. Three ar in a suggestion I couldn't be bothered to read, but smelled of pig men. The other two defended Miclee.
Aka, Sroag is an alternate account of Miclee's, amde to defend him in this losing argument.
Oh, and pm me if you want to send me a donation for pointing this out.
Mod edit: User was warned for flaming. Also, I disagree with your accusation, but that has nothing to do with the warning.
Wait, what? Reported for trolling/making accusations.
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I can see why you side with him so viciously.
Your post has "poumpous ****" written all over it.
Which is why we don't have respect for him.
Yes, it's nice that he did what he did, but it's the fact that he expects everyone to treat him like a god after the fact.
--------------------
In short, I respect the action, not the man.
Like Hitler, but in reverse.
Mod edit: Warned for flaming.
Yes, I accused you of making a second account to help your argument. That isn't against the rules as far as I know, but it is stupid.
And how am I trolling? Is any post you don't like trolling?
And so I can't be accused of never being on topic:
I wonder if pigmen would likely have material preferences? Like, if they could make a house out of either dirt or obsidian, would they choose the stronger material?
And how would the react to every exit of their village having pressure pads wired to a crudload of TNT lying directly benath their homes?
Mod edit: You can still be accused of being sometimes off-topic, which I'd prefer you to not be. Please remain on topic the whole time.
The trolling part was 'Oh, and pm me if you want to send me a donation for pointing this out.'
Check out the research thread.
viewtopic.php?f=1016&t=71196
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What they pass for legit research is laughable though lol.
True, but it's alright for people to exaggerate a bit(though some of it makes no sense at all).
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Exaggerate yes, it happens and I understand it. However when you do any research it's important that you study more than one group, and use a control group no matter how small the experiment is.
Bunch of pigmen gather around tnt? *gasp* they must like it.
If they used a control group they'd realize they gather around any player placed block, because they spawn around the players location.
I happen to think green fits in incredibly well.. and I'll tell you why.
As most of us know, Creepers, those hugable green exploding phallic things, came about because of a failed Pig model. Creepers seem mindless in their endeavours to blow you up while Pigs generally stay to themselves and only follow you out of curiosity (or perhaps shelter during nighttime).
I have a theory that when Pigs die, they go to the Nether where they start to slowly transform into Creepers. They start out their woeful new lives by arriving in the Nether as Pigmen. Alone and afraid, they seek out others of their kind to stay alive. They are at a constant battle with the other denizen of the Nether.. the Ghasts. the Ghasts hunt the Pigmen for food, and the Pigmen have to do everything in their power to win. They create crude weapons out of the surrounding resources in order to fight for their lives.
Because the Nether is so dangerous, most Pigmen get open wounds and burns, leaving them vulnerable to diseases. Upon slaying a Ghast, many pigmen are sprayed with a mixture of Gunpowder and flammable fluids that erupt from the defeated Ghast. which begins the horrible cycle of turning these unfortunates into Zombie Pigmen. Zombie Pigmen slowly begin to lose their minds as their bodies begin to rot and twist into the disturbing shape of a Creeper.
When the transformation is complete, the Creepers blink out of the Nether and populate our own to continue the mindset of a Creeper; explode things.
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That's actually a really awesome little story. :tongue.gif:
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