I have 3 pigmen hiding in my house screeching because a ghast is right above it. They slowly trusted me. They used to run when I approached, but now they follow me. I slowly lured them by putting up all weapons and threw an egg at them. They approched the egg and those three became my pets.
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Wow. This is very interesting. They copy the actions and behaviours of the player? most interesting.
I would gladly research on this. if he actually made a smart A.I that....
well, i have 2 big questions though.
1. If the pigmen copy our behaviour and actions, would they begin attacking the ghasts when they had the chance, build buildings, carve out caves for shelter etc etc?
and 2: If we lured them through the portal and into the normal world, how would they react or settle down?
seems like i have alot to do. :tongue.gif:
ALOT of creds to the guy who actually discovered this! It might be a intentional act by notch that he didn`t want to share, for us to discover. :biggrin.gif:
this is big. :smile.gif:
Can pigmen even get through the portal? I've heard rumors and such, but I need to see it to believe it.
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These are zombie pigmen, not pigmen. Normal pigmen are completely different things, not yet added to the game(I would know, both were my idea).
Seriously, can you stop with this? What is a cardinal? what is a blue jay? what is a mocking bird? All of them are birds! Zombie pigmen ARE pigmen, just a zombified VERSION of pigmen. I would say pigmen is a species and zombie pigmen is a variation. Stop getting so anal about the exact name.
I've really seen Pigmen to be the police of The Nether... And I'm the newbie there... I've not seen Ghasts attacking Pigmen (Only by accident as I dodge {Which I usually don't anymore, I just shoot the ghast fireball with an arrow to send it back at the ghasts [oh yea, you can do that btw]}) I have noticed that if I attack a ghast, the pigmen attack me... but maybe it's just an arrow that missed and hit another pigman or something...
I did notice that if you use unconventional methods of killing (Fire traps, Land Mines, Cannons) the pigmen don't attack you (Presumably because the game doesn't register that as a direct attack from you)
I did notice that Ghasts are dumb... They fly into my traps all the time... even one after another... it's quite funny to watch sometimes... I've lost most fear of them (Cept for that god-aweful death screech) because they are fun to toy with when you build until you are technologically advanced!
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They kill you like tiny nocturnal spaceship piranhas.
Laser Bats, like tiny nocturnal spaceship piranhas.
This is because the Pig Zombies are going to have a new Mob on Land that are Pig men (It is in the minecraft.jar already) and notch said before that he was going to make the First Monster Villages Pig Men.
This all sounds purely ingenius. I've been reading this topic with a huge grin on my face thinking of creating a village for pigmen. Then I'd give them offerings as well. "My pig brothers, I bring offerings of a magical artifact used to forge whatever you wish, known as a workbench; and a box used to store immense amounts of materials, known as a Storage Chest. My only condition is you open trade and work for me!"
This is gonna be fun..
Also, has anyone tried firing snowballs at Ghasts yet? XD
When a Ghast attacked me, I started to dig a hole to hide myself and then escaped "the nether". When I was back, i noticed they where doing that too (they can change from sword to hand o.0)
I really can't believe that without any video/picture proof.
Just remembered I had another thing to say..
I KNEW those pigmen were smart! Just look at the Pigmasked men in Earthbound! I'll bet you someone will make a pigmask skin for the pigmen btw.
This all sounds purely ingenius. I've been reading this topic with a huge grin on my face thinking of creating a village for pigmen. Then I'd give them offerings as well. "My pig brothers, I bring offerings of a magical artifact used to forge whatever you wish, known as a workbench; and a box used to store immense amounts of materials, known as a Storage Chest. My only condition is you open trade and work for me!"
This is gonna be fun..
Also, has anyone tried firing snowballs at Ghasts yet? XD
I tried but they don't do damage BUT they reflect there fireballs back at them >=]
Im working out the plans for this, I'd want blueprints to overlay a map where you place them. Im also working on building ideas. I want to launch the thread with 10.
How about launching it now, getting some support, updating it, bumping it, and getting more support?
I'll add some material of my own, but someone else should create the thread itself. I'm not too good when it comes to keeping things updated and looking pretty.
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I think they have basic knowledge of how to get around,i have a staircase to the roof of my base,i use it to USE THE FISHING ROD TO CATCH GHASTS AND BEAT THEM TO DEATH WITH A FISH,but that's another story,anyway one went UP the stairs,as i saw from a distance,could not take picture due to being chased by 3 ghasts,as i got closer he went DOWN the stairs as the ghasts approached,sadly they tried to get into my house,but were killed by the ghasts.
pics
note to avoid being killed by the ghasts i only got 2 pics,the first one shows him on my roof,the second one shows him heading for the stairs,I SWEAR HE USED THE STAIRS TO GO UP AND DOWN!
These are zombie pigmen, not pigmen. Normal pigmen are completely different things, not yet added to the game(I would know, both were my idea).
Seriously, can you stop with this? What is a cardinal? what is a blue jay? what is a mocking bird? All of them are birds! Zombie pigmen ARE pigmen, just a zombified VERSION of pigmen. I would say pigmen is a species and zombie pigmen is a variation. Stop getting so anal about the exact name.
I actually agree with miclee here.
If/when ordinary pigmen are implemented, suddenly every previous bit of research about (zombie) pigmen will become confusing and inaccurate. somebody coming on and reading this thread might wonder why the hell his (ordinary) pigmen aren't in the nether.
If you are trying to produce some kind of scientific research, you are meant to be as clear as possible as to what it is that you are actually researching, so that the data remains valid in such a case.
Using your analagy, if were to go out and research a particular species of birds, I wouldn't refer to them in my reasearch paper as "birds" because that would be a huge generalization and massively inaccurate.
Experiment 1: Observed Pigmen when ghast was close by.(no cover)
Conclusion: 50% - 70% of pigmen ran away 10% - 15% stood in the same spot and the rest charged the ghast.
Experiment 2: Built structures out of Each 10X10 and each 25 meters apart
Conclusion: Pigmen hovered around & and a few around
Experiment 3: Observed pigmen while around caves when ghasts were present.
Conclusion: 80% of Pigmen went in the cave the rest hopped around the entrance
Overall Conclusion (Theroy): Pigmen learn and have a type of AI.
Can pigmen even get through the portal? I've heard rumors and such, but I need to see it to believe it.
Check out classic ZTZ's freebuild!
Seriously, can you stop with this? What is a cardinal? what is a blue jay? what is a mocking bird? All of them are birds! Zombie pigmen ARE pigmen, just a zombified VERSION of pigmen. I would say pigmen is a species and zombie pigmen is a variation. Stop getting so anal about the exact name.
I did notice that if you use unconventional methods of killing (Fire traps, Land Mines, Cannons) the pigmen don't attack you (Presumably because the game doesn't register that as a direct attack from you)
I did notice that Ghasts are dumb... They fly into my traps all the time... even one after another... it's quite funny to watch sometimes... I've lost most fear of them (Cept for that god-aweful death screech) because they are fun to toy with when you build until you are technologically advanced!
Laser Bats, like tiny nocturnal spaceship piranhas.
Yeah, I know. That skin was actually made by me. :tongue.gif:
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I'm doing a study right now...
So they probably have a simply adaptive AI.
This is also why the tend to form into groups.
This is gonna be fun..
Also, has anyone tried firing snowballs at Ghasts yet? XD
I really can't believe that without any video/picture proof.
I KNEW those pigmen were smart! Just look at the Pigmasked men in Earthbound! I'll bet you someone will make a pigmask skin for the pigmen btw.
I tried but they don't do damage BUT they reflect there fireballs back at them >=]
I'll add some material of my own, but someone else should create the thread itself. I'm not too good when it comes to keeping things updated and looking pretty.
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note to avoid being killed by the ghasts i only got 2 pics,the first one shows him on my roof,the second one shows him heading for the stairs,I SWEAR HE USED THE STAIRS TO GO UP AND DOWN!
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I actually agree with miclee here.
If/when ordinary pigmen are implemented, suddenly every previous bit of research about (zombie) pigmen will become confusing and inaccurate. somebody coming on and reading this thread might wonder why the hell his (ordinary) pigmen aren't in the nether.
If you are trying to produce some kind of scientific research, you are meant to be as clear as possible as to what it is that you are actually researching, so that the data remains valid in such a case.
Using your analagy, if were to go out and research a particular species of birds, I wouldn't refer to them in my reasearch paper as "birds" because that would be a huge generalization and massively inaccurate.
You dig?
Experiment 1: Observed Pigmen when ghast was close by.(no cover)
Conclusion: 50% - 70% of pigmen ran away 10% - 15% stood in the same spot and the rest charged the ghast.
Experiment 2: Built structures out of Each 10X10 and each 25 meters apart
Conclusion: Pigmen hovered around & and a few around
Experiment 3: Observed pigmen while around caves when ghasts were present.
Conclusion: 80% of Pigmen went in the cave the rest hopped around the entrance
Overall Conclusion (Theroy): Pigmen learn and have a type of AI.