OK, after eliminating (tropical) rain forest, temperate rain forest, seasonal forest, and taiga... what kind of just-plain-forest is left? Assuming that "seasonal forest" means temperate deciduous, that seems to me to cover the possibilities.
Also, what exactly is a grass desert, and how does it differ from a savanna and/or a shrubland?
He says they mostly look the same... I assume that is intended to change with further coding.
Also... No swamps. :sad.gif:
EDIT: Ice deserts are going to be quite uncomfortable to live in. We're talking South Pole type stuff. I'd almost have to assume that cold damage is in, if that biome is.
I've been wondering how floating islands are supposed to work myself. I suppose you just put them over the ocean (not much room, though), or else make them yet another plane of existence.
Floating islands already work, albeit by accident. I've had tons of floating islands randomly generated. All you'd have to do was isolate what exactly causes them and make it more often in places.
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Deserts
-desert,
-grass desert,
-ice desert, (also known as an ice sheet. This is what makes up the antartic)
-tundra
Tundra is an ice desert between becoming an ice sheet and a desert. To make a tundra, the area must have a layer of perma frost, thus restricting to only grass or shrubs being able to grow in it. A tundra however does not need plants to grow in it for it to a tundra (see pictures).
I am sad that we have no swamps and a lot of forests. Plus grass desert seems redundent with a savanna.
A grass deset really does seem redendent more that I think about it. For there to be enough grass to be a desert, with out being the extream of a normal desert (extream heat causes nothing to grow) or the extream of the tundra (extream cold causes all but grass to grow), there must be enough water for the plants to grow.
I guess a grass desert is basicly the plains that people wanted.
I am sad that we have no swamps and a lot of forests. Plus grass desert seems redundent with a savanna.
Temperate v. Tropic. Savannah Tropic, Great Plains of US is Temperate grass desert. Of course we don't know what Notch means by grass desert so we'll see.
Well, I am sad that he said that they mostly look the same, as that sorta' defeats the purpose. He said he will change that in the future.
To make biomes meaningful, I think he would have to vary the tree concetrations (like making rainforests really choked), the tree height, the tree growth patterns and shapes (conical vs bulb, or scraggly), the color and texture of foilage and grass, increase the number of plants and their variety, add many more stone textures to differentiate land types (sandstone vs slate vs limestone), add variety to water features, maybe add lighting filters to different biomes (giving deserts a warmer filter). I am sure if the changes take this diection, rather than forest vs rainforest just meaning more or less trees, biomes will feel more significant and rewarding.
Also, for those who think a tundra is a grassland; when we divide all the biomes into six catagories (thus combinining biome including the water biomes), we get Freshwater, marien, forest, desert, grassland, tundra. Or well that is the most common when we divide the biomes into catagories.
Tundra is then divided into two catagorpies, artic and alpine. alpine tundras have plant life. Artic does not. However both are not counted as grasslands due to noe being able to support as much life as a normal grassland.
Plus tundras are famous for thier COLD and DRY range of temperature. THat is why, even thought tundras have more life then a normal desert, people call tundras cold deserts.
Awesome that biomes will be implemented, though I'm slightly disappointed that there doesn't seem to be huge variation in them. I think that with the capabilities of Minecraft, some really cool biomes could be made, such as huge stone canyons, the floating islands idea, huge plateaus with sprawling cave systems from one side to the other, ancient ruins, etc. I'm sure that more will be implemented in the future, though.
Arctic can and does: mosses, lichens and heath plants for example.
arctic tundra is divided into two parts. Anarctic and the arctic. both lack large fauna and is largely considiered plantless other then the Antarctic Peninsula, which has the most growth of plant life in the arctic tundra.
Just since tundras can grow very low plant-life, such as moss and liches, doesn't mean people consider them grasslands or able to support plantlife. Same with the desert, sure it can grow a bush and maybe cactuses, but people still largely consider it generally plantless. Heck, cactus and bushes are a lot larger fauna then moss and liches.
Ps. ^ that picture looks AWESOME!
Is that a mountain made out of sand in the backround?
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archipelago is not a biome, its a geographical formation.
each island in real life is almost a unique biome.
also, if an ocean biomes happens, i really hope for island chains as well :smile.gif:
http://notch.tumblr.com/post/123343045/my-vision-for-survival (follow this link if you need proof)
the planet, maybe?
i think they sort of mean that as a sky biome of sorts.
http://notch.tumblr.com/post/123343045/my-vision-for-survival (follow this link if you need proof)
Also, what exactly is a grass desert, and how does it differ from a savanna and/or a shrubland?
He says they mostly look the same... I assume that is intended to change with further coding.
Also... No swamps. :sad.gif:
EDIT: Ice deserts are going to be quite uncomfortable to live in. We're talking South Pole type stuff. I'd almost have to assume that cold damage is in, if that biome is.
Crap... you're right. ;-;
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-rainforest,
-temperate rainforest,
-seasonal forest,
-forest,
-taiga,
Grasslands
-savanna,
-shrubland,
Deserts
-desert,
-grass desert,
-ice desert, (also known as an ice sheet. This is what makes up the antartic)
-tundra
Tundra is an ice desert between becoming an ice sheet and a desert. To make a tundra, the area must have a layer of perma frost, thus restricting to only grass or shrubs being able to grow in it. A tundra however does not need plants to grow in it for it to a tundra (see pictures).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... uBatty.JPG
http://danforthbiomeproject.pbworks.com ... draPic.jpg
sorces: http://www.worldbiomes.com/biomes_tundra.htm
I am sad that we have no swamps and a lot of forests. Plus grass desert seems redundent with a savanna.
A grass deset really does seem redendent more that I think about it. For there to be enough grass to be a desert, with out being the extream of a normal desert (extream heat causes nothing to grow) or the extream of the tundra (extream cold causes all but grass to grow), there must be enough water for the plants to grow.
I guess a grass desert is basicly the plains that people wanted.
Temperate v. Tropic. Savannah Tropic, Great Plains of US is Temperate grass desert. Of course we don't know what Notch means by grass desert so we'll see.
To make biomes meaningful, I think he would have to vary the tree concetrations (like making rainforests really choked), the tree height, the tree growth patterns and shapes (conical vs bulb, or scraggly), the color and texture of foilage and grass, increase the number of plants and their variety, add many more stone textures to differentiate land types (sandstone vs slate vs limestone), add variety to water features, maybe add lighting filters to different biomes (giving deserts a warmer filter). I am sure if the changes take this diection, rather than forest vs rainforest just meaning more or less trees, biomes will feel more significant and rewarding.
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Tundra is then divided into two catagorpies, artic and alpine. alpine tundras have plant life. Artic does not. However both are not counted as grasslands due to noe being able to support as much life as a normal grassland.
Plus tundras are famous for thier COLD and DRY range of temperature. THat is why, even thought tundras have more life then a normal desert, people call tundras cold deserts.
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arctic tundra is divided into two parts. Anarctic and the arctic. both lack large fauna and is largely considiered plantless other then the Antarctic Peninsula, which has the most growth of plant life in the arctic tundra.
Just since tundras can grow very low plant-life, such as moss and liches, doesn't mean people consider them grasslands or able to support plantlife. Same with the desert, sure it can grow a bush and maybe cactuses, but people still largely consider it generally plantless. Heck, cactus and bushes are a lot larger fauna then moss and liches.
Ps. ^ that picture looks AWESOME!
Is that a mountain made out of sand in the backround?