A friendly reminder from someone who has some common sense.
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Why is eveyone calling the OP stupid? It sounds like he is slightly OCD over his statistics. May this be a problem for him in the future? Possibly. Being OCD does not make you stupid. He has stated numerous times that he cannot ignore them, so those of you continually telling them to do that, pull your heads out of your asses and read the whole damn thread before replying. I personally do not have a problem with stats, but I'm sure more people then just him do, so it cannot be THAT difficult to add a button that disables them. Seriously, stop telling him to ignore it, as he cannot. If he could, do you think he would say he can't? Why the hell would anyone do that?
Alright, let me make this simple because many of you seem too ignorant to truly read and infer what I am saying. I do not like stats, and I am wondering how others feel about them. Do you like them, or hate them like I do. This is my opinion, not me whining, which I am entitled to. I feel stats give the game a purpose or something to distract me from doing exactly what I want, which is why I fell in love with the game. Every other game has stats or goals that never end and they bother me. It is like a car with a ding in it, yes, one can ignore it, but why would one want to do that when they can try to fix it. I want an option added in to remove or disable stats if a player does not want them. If you tell me to ignore them you are not only being ignorant in that you have disregarded the OP, but close-minded in that it is not something that can just be ignored so easily by everyone. Now, maybe you like keeping track of your stats and that is fine, but some of us don't and I want to hear what others think and why. Now, I can bear, with a bad taste in my mouth, having stats kept track of for my own use. I do not want them to be posted online for others to view, which is what Notch has made clear he intends to do. I loved MineCraft before this update but now it is just another game to me. I have lost a lot of the passion I had for it and it seems needless when coding in said option seems very simple. I am a java coder myself actually, though I am no expert by any means, and I know that adding options to disable other options is very easy.
REMEMBER: This thread is for your opinions on stats, not about my problem with them. My opinion on them is not going to change, nor can you fix it in any way so don't try. Post YOUR OPINION and maybe more details or ideas you have about stats, that is all that needs be said. I repeat, DO NOT try to argue with my opinion, it is silly and makes you look like an imbecile.
Here is a list of responses/questions I am sick of answering, if you ask any of these questions you will receive the cold shoulder for your own stupidity.
Q1. Why can't you just ignore them?
A1. This is a flagrant disregard for the OP. They bother me, which would be why I posted this thread. If I could ignore them we would not be here right now, would we? This question is just about the dumbest thing I have ever heard, and why it was posted so many times is beyond me.
Q2. Do you have mental problems?
A2. That is very rude to ask, but no I do not. People can have opinions different from yours and still be fine, in fact, I consider people this close minded to be the ones with mental problems.
Q3. Why don't you just code it yourself?
A3. This needs to be elaborated upon. Firstly, I would need the source files, because I cannot code into the compiled class files. Secondly, I would have to search through all of the MineCraft codes until I found where the stats are placed and what all they affect and alter ALL of that, which would take me a lot of time.
Q4. Any question or response regarding achievements in any manner.
A4. No where in the OP do I even mention achievements save here, so why is this even being mentioned? I like the achievements, I dislike the stats. Get it straight.
Q5. I just ignore them.
A5. While this is not off topic or idiotic as the rest are, I will not respond to it. I understand this is a sentiment felt by many, but unless you can elaborate further upon it, it is just a repeat of what has been said by many. I am NOT here for post count, therefore any short posts along these lines will be ignored.
Q6. Your car reference isn't good.
A6. I am aware of my own logical fallacy; however, I have used this weak analogy to show, in a very simplistic manner that can be easily related to, my feelings on this matter.
i don't know, stats are kay, but i thought the point of minecraft was to set your own achievements based upon how you want to play. that's why we have mods and stuff.
Why leave minecraft you can just either not update it or you can ignore. Achievements keep people who are bored do stuff and if it wasn't for achievements some people would leave and if you hate them just IGNORE them.
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They're ok. The fact that they remind me of Xbox pisses me off. I hate Xbox because the fanbase consists of FPS minded bigots that are shooting down (no pun intended) the gaming community. Although, I do think even for a first release, they could have had a much larger amount of achievements. Things are looking down on my favorite game, and what's with all this portal 2 hype? I don't know what it is so please don't explain it to me. It'll probably absorb my being and cause me to make a complete change on my life's outlook, just don't tell me. Also for the person above me, lol nobody's gonna leave minecraft because there are no achievements, they weren't gonna leave because of no achievements to begin with because nobody knew achievements were coming. These achievements give everybody more reason to say that they'd rather do something else while originally minecraft was fun and basic. These new updates seem to be ruining the original excited feel I got back when I played in alpha.
I disagree with your point. Achievements aren't some huge endgame goal that constrains the user and tells them what to do like you make them out to be, they just point new players in the right direction, and provide something to do if the player wants to. You aren't forced to complete the achievements, there's no reward for completing the achievements, it's just motivation and fun,
I can see why some people mistakenly dislike achievements, but stats? How do stats provide you with a goal? They just tell you what you've done so you don't have to write it down yourself.
Well, I can see what you are saying, but the reality is that we all know stats mean nothing. People have accomplished many things before stats were a part of the game and the states cannot reflect that. Really I don't care if someone breaks more blocks than me because I know its isn't a perfect reflection of what we have actually done. it doesn't really matter. As for the achievements at least they are silly and unnecessary, I can ignore them or do them as I please. In the end I don't really care that much one way or another and it is easier to look at my local data than check how many blocks it took me to build something on xstats. I'm sure someone will make a mod to eliminate all of it if you want anyway. So while I'm still fine I hope you are able to overcome your aversion to this and not miss out on all the other fun updates. :biggrin.gif:
I sorta like them, but I think MineCraft was better when there was no general goal, so I guess yes mostly on achievements.
Bout stats though, I personally like them because it records all of the stuff I've done, so I can like say things like "hay, look at all the diamonds I've gotten, totally awesome, right dude?" things like that, you get the Idea.
Why do you care? They don't affect the gameplay in any way besides a little popup that happens when you do something, and a menu you can look at to see what you've done. It's just ridiculous to me that people would be so strongly against this. It doesn't hurt anyone and it's not like they're keeping you from enjoying the game.
This is a case of someone caring too hard. Just stop caring so hard.
If you can't, try not to come on here and complain that you don't like competing with people, even when you don't have to compete with anyone at all. This is the reason your entire experience is ruined? You'll never play the newer versions again because of this? Of all things? It just sounds ridiculous to a lot of people and it's easy to see why.
The game doesn't have a point or goal anymore than it used to. It's the same Minecraft with some suggested challenges to complete if you want, and a way to keep track of what you've done in a couple of out-of-the-way menus. There's no YOU WIN screen after finishing them, there's no LOOK HE'S MINECRAFTING BETTER THAN YOU. It's still just Minecraft. You decide what you want to do and if you care about competition.
I disagree. First and foremost, stats are simply a tool, for keeping track of what you do. If someone so choose to turn that into a form of digital e-peen and attempt to flaunt it to the interwebs, let them? I don't understand why that would bother you?
You also slightly contradict yourself in your dialogue. You say stats can't be beaten, after already saying that stats turn the game into into a competition. But your idea is half-on, stats can't be beaten because they are not a competition, so don't turn them into one. I then revert to my statement above.
But seriously, why would stats present more of a competition than achievements? Stats are monotonous, and will come with time. Achievements, however, as they get harder, will garner much more bragging rights.
Your intentions are good, but slightly miss-placed. Achievements are not required to play minecraft, nor are stats. They will not make your game any better, any worse, go any faster, easier, harder. Simply put, they are there for enjoyment. What you sound like your afraid of is leader boards, which would turn stats and achievements into e-peen.Or maybe achievements that unlock something that makes the game easier?
I actually know how to turn the achievements and stats off, because I'm ridiculously good at hacking. Here are the steps.
Open minecraft, load your game.
1. Press the esc key.
2. Don't click on the achievements button OR the stats button.
3. ????.
4. Prosper.
Stats do not equal competition.
Achievements do not equal goals.
There are 2 things you should think about.
1. IGNORE IT, Everyone has been saying that!
2. Think of it like a tutorial to newcomers, Notch finally put somewhat of a tutorial!
Another thing, in a twitter post from Notch, he said the Achievements wouldn't be like "chores" like "Cut 10,000 trees down", but challenges like "Fly a Pig off a Cliff". Plus, it did not wreck the game, the game did not have a whole new attitude at all. It is almost the same except with things you can do. Plus, like I said in number 1, you don't have to do them. You can live a whole Minecraft Year and still not do that 1st achievement. It's not like Minecraft turned into a full-pledged story.
Main Idea: Minecraft is still a survival game, and Achievements aren't exactly chores.
Statistics just tell you the stats you have, so why delete them?
I disagree, I love having Achievements, however I would like the ability to disable Stats. I would rather have walk 10,000 meters achievement than stats. Mostly because you can NEVER finish stats. I want to be able to sit back and relax knowing I've got all the achievements and I can just screw around.
For example, I liked Halo 3 MUCH more than Reach, because I could get all the armor and achievements, where as Reach has Arena mode which Resets every month or so.
However as I'm sure MANY people disagree with me, I'll have to live with it.
Ranks in MC could be cool.
EDIT: Simply put, I want to be able to "Win" MineCraft. And I don't mean COMPLETE it. I mean WIN. If you have a chest full of diamond you win, Then you start over. Achievments? You can complete those. Stats? They NEVER END!!!! AND IT MAKES ME WANT TO RIP MY EYES OUT WITH FRUSTRATION!!!!
/endrant
Okay then, I suppose I am alone. But please understand if a game has a goal, I must achieve it, it is who I am. Now this game has an unobtainable goal, to have the best stats. I do not mind the achievements, those are actually cool to me now. Stats still are under my skin. I loved the game because it did not have stats, now that is no more. Stop getting so argumentative over it. I just hate the stats update.
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EDIT: Simply put, I want to be able to "Win" MineCraft. And I don't mean COMPLETE it. I mean WIN. If you have a chest full of diamond you win, Then you start over. Achievments? You can complete those. Stats? They NEVER END!!!! AND IT MAKES ME WANT TO RIP MY EYES OUT WITH FRUSTRATION!!!!
/endrant
I agree completely with him. I am not alone, nice to know.
I agree with most people just ignore them thats what i did to me they serve no purpose and ill play normally although for teh part with a weather update IT HAS NOT CHANGED AT ALL ITS ALWAYS SUNNY WHERES MY DAMN SNOW AND RAIN XD
just ignore them completely if you don't like them, like i do, i just check them out occasionally to see how im doing at managing my resources and what i can do to improve it.
Alright, let me make this simple because many of you seem too ignorant to truly read and infer what I am saying. I do not like stats, and I am wondering how others feel about them. Do you like them, or hate them like I do. This is my opinion, not me whining, which I am entitled to. I feel stats give the game a purpose or something to distract me from doing exactly what I want, which is why I fell in love with the game. Every other game has stats or goals that never end and they bother me. It is like a car with a ding in it, yes, one can ignore it, but why would one want to do that when they can try to fix it. I want an option added in to remove or disable stats if a player does not want them. If you tell me to ignore them you are not only being ignorant in that you have disregarded the OP, but close-minded in that it is not something that can just be ignored so easily by everyone. Now, maybe you like keeping track of your stats and that is fine, but some of us don't and I want to hear what others think and why. Now, I can bear, with a bad taste in my mouth, having stats kept track of for my own use. I do not want them to be posted online for others to view, which is what Notch has made clear he intends to do. I loved MineCraft before this update but now it is just another game to me. I have lost a lot of the passion I had for it and it seems needless when coding in said option seems very simple. I am a java coder myself actually, though I am no expert by any means, and I know that adding options to disable other options is very easy.
REMEMBER: This thread is for your opinions on stats, not about my problem with them. My opinion on them is not going to change, nor can you fix it in any way so don't try. Post YOUR OPINION and maybe more details or ideas you have about stats, that is all that needs be said. I repeat, DO NOT try to argue with my opinion, it is silly and makes you look like an imbecile.
Here is a list of responses/questions I am sick of answering, if you ask any of these questions you will receive the cold shoulder for your own stupidity.
Q1. Why can't you just ignore them?
A1. This is a flagrant disregard for the OP. They bother me, which would be why I posted this thread. If I could ignore them we would not be here right now, would we? This question is just about the dumbest thing I have ever heard, and why it was posted so many times is beyond me.
Q2. Do you have mental problems?
A2. That is very rude to ask, but no I do not. People can have opinions different from yours and still be fine, in fact, I consider people this close minded to be the ones with mental problems.
Q3. Why don't you just code it yourself?
A3. This needs to be elaborated upon. Firstly, I would need the source files, because I cannot code into the compiled class files. Secondly, I would have to search through all of the MineCraft codes until I found where the stats are placed and what all they affect and alter ALL of that, which would take me a lot of time.
Q4. Any question or response regarding achievements in any manner.
A4. No where in the OP do I even mention achievements save here, so why is this even being mentioned? I like the achievements, I dislike the stats. Get it straight.
Q5. I just ignore them.
A5. While this is not off topic or idiotic as the rest are, I will not respond to it. I understand this is a sentiment felt by many, but unless you can elaborate further upon it, it is just a repeat of what has been said by many. I am NOT here for post count, therefore any short posts along these lines will be ignored.
Q6. Your car reference isn't good.
A6. I am aware of my own logical fallacy; however, I have used this weak analogy to show, in a very simplistic manner that can be easily related to, my feelings on this matter.
theres the problem right there!
what is this? i don't even...
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I can see why some people mistakenly dislike achievements, but stats? How do stats provide you with a goal? They just tell you what you've done so you don't have to write it down yourself.
Bout stats though, I personally like them because it records all of the stuff I've done, so I can like say things like "hay, look at all the diamonds I've gotten, totally awesome, right dude?" things like that, you get the Idea.
This is a case of someone caring too hard. Just stop caring so hard.
If you can't, try not to come on here and complain that you don't like competing with people, even when you don't have to compete with anyone at all. This is the reason your entire experience is ruined? You'll never play the newer versions again because of this? Of all things? It just sounds ridiculous to a lot of people and it's easy to see why.
The game doesn't have a point or goal anymore than it used to. It's the same Minecraft with some suggested challenges to complete if you want, and a way to keep track of what you've done in a couple of out-of-the-way menus. There's no YOU WIN screen after finishing them, there's no LOOK HE'S MINECRAFTING BETTER THAN YOU. It's still just Minecraft. You decide what you want to do and if you care about competition.
You also slightly contradict yourself in your dialogue. You say stats can't be beaten, after already saying that stats turn the game into into a competition. But your idea is half-on, stats can't be beaten because they are not a competition, so don't turn them into one. I then revert to my statement above.
But seriously, why would stats present more of a competition than achievements? Stats are monotonous, and will come with time. Achievements, however, as they get harder, will garner much more bragging rights.
Your intentions are good, but slightly miss-placed. Achievements are not required to play minecraft, nor are stats. They will not make your game any better, any worse, go any faster, easier, harder. Simply put, they are there for enjoyment. What you sound like your afraid of is leader boards, which would turn stats and achievements into e-peen.Or maybe achievements that unlock something that makes the game easier?
I actually know how to turn the achievements and stats off, because I'm ridiculously good at hacking. Here are the steps.
Open minecraft, load your game.
1. Press the esc key.
2. Don't click on the achievements button OR the stats button.
3. ????.
4. Prosper.
Stats do not equal competition.
Achievements do not equal goals.
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1. IGNORE IT, Everyone has been saying that!
2. Think of it like a tutorial to newcomers, Notch finally put somewhat of a tutorial!
Another thing, in a twitter post from Notch, he said the Achievements wouldn't be like "chores" like "Cut 10,000 trees down", but challenges like "Fly a Pig off a Cliff". Plus, it did not wreck the game, the game did not have a whole new attitude at all. It is almost the same except with things you can do. Plus, like I said in number 1, you don't have to do them. You can live a whole Minecraft Year and still not do that 1st achievement. It's not like Minecraft turned into a full-pledged story.
Main Idea: Minecraft is still a survival game, and Achievements aren't exactly chores.
Statistics just tell you the stats you have, so why delete them?
If you like waffles, then you must like turtles.
For example, I liked Halo 3 MUCH more than Reach, because I could get all the armor and achievements, where as Reach has Arena mode which Resets every month or so.
However as I'm sure MANY people disagree with me, I'll have to live with it.
Ranks in MC could be cool.
EDIT: Simply put, I want to be able to "Win" MineCraft. And I don't mean COMPLETE it. I mean WIN. If you have a chest full of diamond you win, Then you start over. Achievments? You can complete those. Stats? They NEVER END!!!! AND IT MAKES ME WANT TO RIP MY EYES OUT WITH FRUSTRATION!!!!
/endrant
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I agree completely with him. I am not alone, nice to know.
just ignore them completely if you don't like them, like i do, i just check them out occasionally to see how im doing at managing my resources and what i can do to improve it.