This is so awesome. I wish I could remember my dreams.
I don't get many faces in my dreams (maybe because I'm Autistic), but when I saw the picture I had the slightest feeling that I had seen him before. And I would remember if I had seen him in real life, but I haven't. I don't know, maybe I had a dream about him a while ago.
I don't remember my dreams very well, in fact, now that I think back, I don't think I can remember ANY faces from any of my dreams, even the ones I can remember.
"Hey, here's a drug that will cure your headaches!"
"Oh really, cool!"
-takes drug-
"Hey, my headaches do feel better!"
"Really? Because we gave you a sugar pill."
"Oh ._."
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"...But don’t worry, you’re not alone, there are many men like you left in the world, and some of them even used to be your friends. After all, this is America, and we only kill our friends." - Immortal Technique
"Hey, here's a drug that will cure your headaches!"
"Oh really, cool!"
-takes drug-
"Hey, my headaches do feel better!"
"Really? Because we gave you a sugar pill."
"Oh ._."
But they're not like.
"Hey here's a guy who's in your dreams!"
"Oh yeah he is!"
"He's not in your dreams, your lying to me!"
"Uh. No?"
It's not the same as the sugar pill example, because they can't PROVE that he's not in your dreams. Plus, if the doctor had it sitting on the counter with no intention to show the patient and someone noticed it and pointed out that they see him in their dreams, that proves that someone isn't lying about it...
It's obvious that this man has never actually appeared in your dreams, at least, not as he is depicted in the picture, and not before you viewed the picture. That's simply what people want to believe, and so people will falsely recall "Hm. Maybe I did see that picture" when in fact, they did not.
"Hey here's a guy who's in your dreams!"
"Oh yeah he is!"
"He's not in your dreams, your lying to me!"
"Uh. No?"
It's not the same as the sugar pill example, because they can't PROVE that he's not in your dreams. Plus, if the doctor had it sitting on the counter with no intention to show the patient and someone noticed it and pointed out that they see him in their dreams, that proves that someone isn't lying about it...
That's how it'd start. One guy would be like
"Hey, I've seen this in my dreams!"
-Shows picture to buddy-
"Hey, have you seen this in your dream too? I see it abunch."
"...Now that you mention it, I think I have..."
etc, etc, etc.
That wasn't a direct comparison, it was just meant to be an example.
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"...But don’t worry, you’re not alone, there are many men like you left in the world, and some of them even used to be your friends. After all, this is America, and we only kill our friends." - Immortal Technique
It's obvious that this man has never actually appeared in your dreams, at least, not as he is depicted in the picture, and not before you viewed the picture. That's simply what people want to believe, and so people will falsely recall "Hm. Maybe I did see that picture" when in fact, they did not.
That makes sense, but over 2000 people have claimed to have seen him. ALL 2000 are liars? I doubt it.
That makes sense, but over 2000 people have claimed to have seen him. ALL 2000 are liars? I doubt it.
Not liars, just confusing themselves. You can easily be tricked into believing something that never happened, even into not believing something that is happening, especially with something as nebulous as dreams.
That makes sense, but over 2000 people have claimed to have seen him. ALL 2000 are liars? I doubt it.
They're not liars, they're simply being, for lack of a better word, tricked into thinking that they have seen him, when in reality, they have not. I don't want to bring religion into this, but... well, you know where I'm going with this.
They're not liars, they're simply being, for lack of a better word, tricked into thinking that they have seen him, when in reality, they have not. I don't want to bring religion into this, but... well, you know where I'm going with this.
Vincenzo put it best with his examples.
But in the article is says that a patient or a few patients or something NOTICED the face on the countertop and said that they had seen that man in their dreams, even if they were never told ANYTHING about it, and the doctor had no intention of showing them. At least a few of the people weren't tricked. And doctors are smart, I doubt they'd pull the 'have you seen this man in your dreams before?' I'd have to believe it went more like "have you seen this man before" and people claimed to see him in their dreams, so they had no information about him appearing in dreams. What would be the point to bias a study SO much by telling the patient in advance that the man was seen in dreams? I've got to believe at least some doctors were smart enough to keep it clean.
But in the article is says that a patient or a few patients or something NOTICED the face on the countertop and said that they had seen that man in their dreams, even if they were never told ANYTHING about it, and the doctor had no intention of showing them. At least a few of the people weren't tricked. And doctors are smart, I doubt they'd pull the 'have you seen this man in your dreams before?' I'd have to believe it went more like "have you seen this man before" and people claimed to see him in their dreams, so they had no information about him appearing in dreams. What would be the point to bias a study SO much by telling the patient in advance that the man was seen in dreams? I've got to believe at least some doctors were smart enough to keep it clean.
The thing is, they could have sketched practically any face, and the same thing would have happened. People would fool themselves into believing they saw that face. Your story doesn't really change anything.
The thing is, they could have sketched practically any face, and the same thing would have happened. People would believe they saw that face. Your story doesn't really change anything.
People could've said 'I've seen that guy before' but never specify in their dreams. It could make a difference, because if they have no knowledge of it in advance, then they can't bias their answer. They could've said no, they could've said yes, but they don't know where from, they could've said 'yes in my dreams' if they don't have the knowledge that this guy keeps reappearing in their dreams in advance, then how could their answer possibly end up being untruthful?
'Have you seen this man before?'
'Yes. In my dreams.'
'BIAS. YOU'RE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH.'
'How?'
'EVERYONE SEES THAT MAN IN THEIR DREAMS, YOU'RE JUST GOING WITH WHAT THEY SAID.'
'Well sorry. I didn't know that, all I did was answer your question.'
Nonetheless, the idea that the same man could reappear in several peoples dreams is creepy.
I don't remember my dreams very well, in fact, now that I think back, I don't think I can remember ANY faces from any of my dreams, even the ones I can remember.
Huh? Explain please.
"Hey, here's a drug that will cure your headaches!"
"Oh really, cool!"
-takes drug-
"Hey, my headaches do feel better!"
"Really? Because we gave you a sugar pill."
"Oh ._."
Well, my volume was up.
Maybe it wasn't up high. Either way, it still startled me at least.
Here ya go :smile.gif:
(Don't worry, it's not a screamer)
But they're not like.
"Hey here's a guy who's in your dreams!"
"Oh yeah he is!"
"He's not in your dreams, your lying to me!"
"Uh. No?"
It's not the same as the sugar pill example, because they can't PROVE that he's not in your dreams. Plus, if the doctor had it sitting on the counter with no intention to show the patient and someone noticed it and pointed out that they see him in their dreams, that proves that someone isn't lying about it...
http://www.real-hypnosis.com/powerofsuggestion.html
It's obvious that this man has never actually appeared in your dreams, at least, not as he is depicted in the picture, and not before you viewed the picture. That's simply what people want to believe, and so people will falsely recall "Hm. Maybe I did see that picture" when in fact, they did not.
That's how it'd start. One guy would be like
"Hey, I've seen this in my dreams!"
-Shows picture to buddy-
"Hey, have you seen this in your dream too? I see it abunch."
"...Now that you mention it, I think I have..."
etc, etc, etc.
That wasn't a direct comparison, it was just meant to be an example.
That makes sense, but over 2000 people have claimed to have seen him. ALL 2000 are liars? I doubt it.
That happens to me as well.
Not liars, just confusing themselves. You can easily be tricked into believing something that never happened, even into not believing something that is happening, especially with something as nebulous as dreams.
They're not liars, they're simply being, for lack of a better word, tricked into thinking that they have seen him, when in reality, they have not. I don't want to bring religion into this, but... well, you know where I'm going with this.
Vincenzo put it best with his examples.
But in the article is says that a patient or a few patients or something NOTICED the face on the countertop and said that they had seen that man in their dreams, even if they were never told ANYTHING about it, and the doctor had no intention of showing them. At least a few of the people weren't tricked. And doctors are smart, I doubt they'd pull the 'have you seen this man in your dreams before?' I'd have to believe it went more like "have you seen this man before" and people claimed to see him in their dreams, so they had no information about him appearing in dreams. What would be the point to bias a study SO much by telling the patient in advance that the man was seen in dreams? I've got to believe at least some doctors were smart enough to keep it clean.
The thing is, they could have sketched practically any face, and the same thing would have happened. People would fool themselves into believing they saw that face. Your story doesn't really change anything.
stolen from Tirin<3
People could've said 'I've seen that guy before' but never specify in their dreams. It could make a difference, because if they have no knowledge of it in advance, then they can't bias their answer. They could've said no, they could've said yes, but they don't know where from, they could've said 'yes in my dreams' if they don't have the knowledge that this guy keeps reappearing in their dreams in advance, then how could their answer possibly end up being untruthful?
'Have you seen this man before?'
'Yes. In my dreams.'
'BIAS. YOU'RE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH.'
'How?'
'EVERYONE SEES THAT MAN IN THEIR DREAMS, YOU'RE JUST GOING WITH WHAT THEY SAID.'
'Well sorry. I didn't know that, all I did was answer your question.'
Nonetheless, the idea that the same man could reappear in several peoples dreams is creepy.