I haven't seen this before so I'm wondering if anyone has made this yet.
You should be able to combine a cobblestone generator with a naturally occuring silverfish spawner to make a block 97 generator.
A player would wait nearby, so silverfish spawn and try to head towards them. You'd have a pit covered by an open fence gate or sign so silverfish view it as solid ground and fall in.
They'd land on a pressure plate next to a cobblestone block. After a while the silverfish would enter the block and unpress the pressure plate. This would trigger a piston conveyor system to move the new block 97 to a storage area and bring in a new cobblestone block from a generator.
You could then harvest the block 97s later using a silk touch pick.
This seems like a pretty obvious idea, but I haven't seen anything along these lines on the forums yet.
should be possible.
that shouldnt even be such a problem.
maybe u can draw or even build a concept of proof.
It's actually pretty simple to do.
The only tricky part is making sure blocks only move away to the storage area if a silverfish is on board. So you have to make sure only one silverfish can fall on the plate at a time, so the block is only moved once that silverfish enters.
Maybe you could seal off the hole until the silverfish vanishes so nothing else can fall in.
So if you want to build this without hacking in spawners you'd have to make the device in a stronghold.
You could use pistons to automatically transport the block 97s to the surface though, if you wanted a surface silverfish storage depot.
I do believe that silk touch still works on block 97. Even if it doesn't though, this is still a way of making more silverfish and transporting them elsewhere.
I've gone around fortresses punching/mining blocks to no avail.
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I've gone around fortresses punching/mining blocks to no avail.
I haven't seen them in real gameplay yet, but I spawned a few of them to test with. Scary buggers.
You could do some really nasty things with mass produced silverfish blocks. Imagine making a building entirely out of silverfish blocks. A griefer comes along and hacks a hole in your wall and a silverfish pops out. They attack the silverfish, then suddenly the walls, ceilings, floor dissolve into a writhing mass of bugs. The victim falls into a pit and is devoured alive.
Theoretically you could build a self-regenerating house, except instead of cobble or smoothstone it would build it out of block 97s. Self repairing and kills griefers all in one! You'd need someone nearby to activate the spawner though.
Earlier today I attempted to make one of these as a proof of concept. Everything worked fine except for a couple small errors that really made a difference. For one thing, the silverfish spawning was nearly impossible to contain (which I could fix with a bigger cage or something). The real trouble was when I tried mining the block 97 with a pickaxe enchanted with the silk touch it simply gave me stone and another silverfish. I could have done something wrong, but I don't know what. The Minecraft Wiki also could be wrong, when I checked the statement that it could pick up block 97 there wasn't any citation.
Earlier today I attempted to make one of these as a proof of concept. Everything worked fine except for a couple small errors that really made a difference. For one thing, the silverfish spawning was nearly impossible to contain (which I could fix with a bigger cage or something). The real trouble was when I tried mining the block 97 with a pickaxe enchanted with the silk touch it simply gave me stone and another silverfish. I could have done something wrong, but I don't know what. The Minecraft Wiki also could be wrong, when I checked the statement that it could pick up block 97 there wasn't any citation.
So a silk touch it gave you normal stone but also set the silverfish free?
Hm. So the only way to build with silverfish blocks may be to move them into place with pistons.
I tried using a BUD, but it was no good. Just as you suggested, the silverfish fell down a hole on a pressure plate, which extended a piston to close him there. It was all made of sandstone, and one of the blocks was smoothstone, fed by a generator. I set it up so that when the fish entered the stone, a BUD under it would cause a piston to take the block. However, this was right above the BUD, which would cause another update and make it go on forever. I fixed this in order to test it with real silverfish, but the plate would extend the BUD piston....there was not much to place to work....
I still feel this can be done.
But I give up.
It`s your chance now..
I tried using a BUD, but it was no good. Just as you suggested, the silverfish fell down a hole on a pressure plate, which extended a piston to close him there. It was all made of sandstone, and one of the blocks was smoothstone, fed by a generator. I set it up so that when the fish entered the stone, a BUD under it would cause a piston to take the block. However, this was right above the BUD, which would cause another update and make it go on forever. I fixed this in order to test it with real silverfish, but the plate would extend the BUD piston....there was not much to place to work....
I still feel this can be done.
But I give up.
It`s your chance now..
I'm still in beta 1.8 because I haven't changed all my glowstone wiring and am procrastinating in hopes that it gets changed back... But when I tried that the pressure plate didn't activate the BUD. Maybe it's your wiring?
I'm still in beta 1.8 because I haven't changed all my glowstone wiring and am procrastinating in hopes that it gets changed back... But when I tried that the pressure plate didn't activate the BUD. Maybe it's your wiring?
It`s got to be that. But I gave up too easily. Now i`m going for another solution:
When the silverfish steps on the plate, the ceiling closes. When he finally enters the stone, instead of a BUD, I will have an inverted signal from the plate to activate a monostable circuit, which will then push the stone. Makes sense now, going to try it...
It`s got to be that. But I gave up too easily. Now i`m going for another solution:
When the silverfish steps on the plate, the ceiling closes. When he finally enters the stone, instead of a BUD, I will have an inverted signal from the plate to activate a monostable circuit, which will then push the stone. Makes sense now, going to try it...
Yeah, a BUD is more complicated. It's simpler just to have pistons move the block when the plate comes unpressed.
I also thought of an easier way of making sure only one silverfish is in the hole at a time: have more than one hole!
The silverfish doesn't fall directly down onto the pressure plate. Instead it lands in a water stream.
There are pits beneath water stream, each with their own pressure plate & stone block. When pressed the plate closes off that hole with a piston so the water flows over it and continues to the next hole.
So when a silverfish is in hole 1, hole 1 would close off and silverfish would be carried over it to hole 2 instead. Then when hole 2 is filled that piston would close off and the next one would go to hole 3.
I'm not sure how many pits you'd need in the machine to prevent it from getting clogged, that depends how quickly silverfish spawn and how quickly they enter blocks.
The only tricky part is making sure blocks only move away to the storage area if a silverfish is on board. So you have to make sure only one silverfish can fall on the plate at a time, so the block is only moved once that silverfish enters.
Maybe you could seal off the hole until the silverfish vanishes so nothing else can fall in.
You could make it so that the pressure plate would activate a sticky piston which pushes a block over the hole.
Also, put flowing water under the spawner to ensure the Silvrfish end up in the traps. Great Idea!
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I tried using a BUD, but it was no good. Just as you suggested, the silverfish fell down a hole on a pressure plate, which extended a piston to close him there. It was all made of sandstone, and one of the blocks was smoothstone, fed by a generator. I set it up so that when the fish entered the stone, a BUD under it would cause a piston to take the block. However, this was right above the BUD, which would cause another update and make it go on forever. I fixed this in order to test it with real silverfish, but the plate would extend the BUD piston....there was not much to place to work....
I still feel this can be done.
But I give up.
It`s your chance now..
I did it already and the way I described before works, in fact, it was really easy. Invert the signal from the plate, hook it to a 2 tick or more monostable circuit that activates a piston to push the block 97.
Yeah, a BUD is more complicated. It's simpler just to have pistons move the block when the plate comes unpressed.I also thought of an easier way of making sure only one silverfish is in the hole at a time: have more than one hole!The silverfish doesn't fall directly down onto the pressure plate. Instead it lands in a water stream.There are pits beneath water stream, each with their own pressure plate & stone block. When pressed the plate closes off that hole with a piston so the water flows over it and continues to the next hole. So when a silverfish is in hole 1, hole 1 would close off and silverfish would be carried over it to hole 2 instead. Then when hole 2 is filled that piston would close off and the next one would go to hole 3. I'm not sure how many pits you'd need in the machine to prevent it from getting clogged, that depends how quickly silverfish spawn and how quickly they enter blocks.
However, this ^ I was not able to do. The silverfish on the water stream doesn`t fall on the holes, only on the first one (that happens to be right beneath the feeding hole). There could be a clock pushing them down in the holes, in case any of you would be interested in moving on with this project.
For as far as i remember from beta 1.8 (Sorry i quit playing minecraft since then, i'm not up to date!) silverfish can only appear from the smoothstone blocks, not the broken nor the mossy ones, i'm giving it a silly guess that TNT would trigger the blocks and spawn the silverfish anyways.
Please confirm the part with the TNT, i don't play minecraft anymore...
Silverfish have their own block, block 97, which can take on the appearance of normal stone/cobble/stone brick blocks. Silverfish can also enter normal blocks and turn them into block 97.
This hypothetical machine wouldn't collect silverfish from blocks. Instead it would spawn new silverfish from the naturally occuring silverfish spawners found in strongholds, then give them normal stone blocks for them to inhabit and turn into block 97s.
So I am actually working on this, and I have a couple notes to make. Firstly, detecting a silverfish by using a pressure plate is problematic because of their bouncing. The power and unpower the pressure plate even when they are trapped in a 1x1 space. Furthermore, it seems to take quite a long time for a Silverfish to enter a block that is not directly below it, it seems to take a much shorter time period to enter a block beneath itself. This leads me to believe that a BUD detection approach might be in order. I already have the conveyor belt finished, and I think that might end up being the hardest part! I'll be sure to post when I have more finished :smile.gif:
You should be able to combine a cobblestone generator with a naturally occuring silverfish spawner to make a block 97 generator.
A player would wait nearby, so silverfish spawn and try to head towards them. You'd have a pit covered by an open fence gate or sign so silverfish view it as solid ground and fall in.
They'd land on a pressure plate next to a cobblestone block. After a while the silverfish would enter the block and unpress the pressure plate. This would trigger a piston conveyor system to move the new block 97 to a storage area and bring in a new cobblestone block from a generator.
You could then harvest the block 97s later using a silk touch pick.
This seems like a pretty obvious idea, but I haven't seen anything along these lines on the forums yet.
It's actually pretty simple to do.
The only tricky part is making sure blocks only move away to the storage area if a silverfish is on board. So you have to make sure only one silverfish can fall on the plate at a time, so the block is only moved once that silverfish enters.
Maybe you could seal off the hole until the silverfish vanishes so nothing else can fall in.
They appear in strongholds.
So if you want to build this without hacking in spawners you'd have to make the device in a stronghold.
You could use pistons to automatically transport the block 97s to the surface though, if you wanted a surface silverfish storage depot.
I do believe that silk touch still works on block 97. Even if it doesn't though, this is still a way of making more silverfish and transporting them elsewhere.
I've gone around fortresses punching/mining blocks to no avail.
I haven't seen them in real gameplay yet, but I spawned a few of them to test with. Scary buggers.
You could do some really nasty things with mass produced silverfish blocks. Imagine making a building entirely out of silverfish blocks. A griefer comes along and hacks a hole in your wall and a silverfish pops out. They attack the silverfish, then suddenly the walls, ceilings, floor dissolve into a writhing mass of bugs. The victim falls into a pit and is devoured alive.
Theoretically you could build a self-regenerating house, except instead of cobble or smoothstone it would build it out of block 97s. Self repairing and kills griefers all in one! You'd need someone nearby to activate the spawner though.
So a silk touch it gave you normal stone but also set the silverfish free?
Hm. So the only way to build with silverfish blocks may be to move them into place with pistons.
I still feel this can be done.
But I give up.
It`s your chance now..
I'm still in beta 1.8 because I haven't changed all my glowstone wiring and am procrastinating in hopes that it gets changed back... But when I tried that the pressure plate didn't activate the BUD. Maybe it's your wiring?
It`s got to be that. But I gave up too easily. Now i`m going for another solution:
When the silverfish steps on the plate, the ceiling closes. When he finally enters the stone, instead of a BUD, I will have an inverted signal from the plate to activate a monostable circuit, which will then push the stone. Makes sense now, going to try it...
Yeah, a BUD is more complicated. It's simpler just to have pistons move the block when the plate comes unpressed.
I also thought of an easier way of making sure only one silverfish is in the hole at a time: have more than one hole!
The silverfish doesn't fall directly down onto the pressure plate. Instead it lands in a water stream.
There are pits beneath water stream, each with their own pressure plate & stone block. When pressed the plate closes off that hole with a piston so the water flows over it and continues to the next hole.
So when a silverfish is in hole 1, hole 1 would close off and silverfish would be carried over it to hole 2 instead. Then when hole 2 is filled that piston would close off and the next one would go to hole 3.
I'm not sure how many pits you'd need in the machine to prevent it from getting clogged, that depends how quickly silverfish spawn and how quickly they enter blocks.
That should help^^^^
You could make it so that the pressure plate would activate a sticky piston which pushes a block over the hole.
Also, put flowing water under the spawner to ensure the Silvrfish end up in the traps. Great Idea!
you should add a t-flip flop
Instead of a player, why not a snow golem? Complete automation, without having to sit somewhere!
This is an AWESOME idea! I can annoy my freinds so much with this! Many for u!
However, this ^ I was not able to do. The silverfish on the water stream doesn`t fall on the holes, only on the first one (that happens to be right beneath the feeding hole). There could be a clock pushing them down in the holes, in case any of you would be interested in moving on with this project.
Silverfish have their own block, block 97, which can take on the appearance of normal stone/cobble/stone brick blocks. Silverfish can also enter normal blocks and turn them into block 97.
This hypothetical machine wouldn't collect silverfish from blocks. Instead it would spawn new silverfish from the naturally occuring silverfish spawners found in strongholds, then give them normal stone blocks for them to inhabit and turn into block 97s.