What bothers me a bit about the multiplayer splitscreen video, is that.. I'd assume it's offline, right? Seeing as it's meant to be offline, between two people, on one tv. Yet I see weird internet-lag type stuff, where lighting doesn't update RIGHT away, or blocks take an extra half a second to disappear. That itself isn't bad, but if it's like that, it makes me wonder what else is laggy or off about it. And would it do the same if it was just basic single player, offline, without split screen?
Or I could be wrong all together, and it could be a LAN type of thing, where they're connected via two different 360s, but still.
I'm still curious how online servers will work. I'd really like to play with someone that lives quite a ways away from me on it. I can't do it on the PC version, because there's horrible lag due to the location differences. I would hope something like playing with people on the other side of the world would work at least a LITTLE better, and maybe be easier to set up the server in the first place.
i couldn't get why this fight started at all. scrolls the word is just a word no one can claim a word as theirs, good one mohjang!!
and the odds of the two games being confused is very low. from my own perspective i notice the elder scrolls series are often reffered to by the sub-name. marrowind, oblivion, and skyrim. i always see the three games i know about refered to like that. and before i played elder scrolls i had no idea what the three words were, what game it was etc... and it is rare to games from different companies are confused. espeashily if they are two different genres.
like every car has a steering wheel and no one whines about copyrights.
i like this company more and more each day, they are outgoing and willing to push issues others won't bother to touch with a ten foot pole. the big game companies are just big companies, they don't control the gaming industry [though they act like it]. if something is not stolen you should be free to produce it.
One can claim a word as your own. Thomas Edison invented the word "Hello".
I'm probably going to get raged at here, but don't completely discard Bethesda's side of the story as them being a greedy big game company. Mojang tried to get copyright ownership of the word scrolls, not just for the computer game, but for tv shows, movies, even radio (your guess is as good as mine when it comes to what they are going to do with that). However, registering for the right to 'Scrolls' could potentially put Mojang in a postition to sue Bethesda for their use of the word in 'The Elder Scrolls'. I'm not saying Mojang would do that, but you can't blame Bethesda for tying up loose ends in relation to its biggest selling franchise. And hey, in the end, Mojang can use the word and Bethesda can be confident in their copyright claims, so its a win win for all parties.
I'm probably going to get raged at here, but don't completely discard Bethesda's side of the story as them being a greedy big game company. Mojang tried to get copyright ownership of the word scrolls, not just for the computer game, but for tv shows, movies, even radio (your guess is as good as mine when it comes to what they are going to do with that). However, registering for the right to 'Scrolls' could potentially put Mojang in a postition to sue Bethesda for their use of the word in 'The Elder Scrolls'. I'm not saying Mojang would do that, but you can't blame Bethesda for tying up loose ends in relation to its biggest selling franchise. And hey, in the end, Mojang can use the word and Bethesda can be confident in their copyright claims, so its a win win for all parties.
Thank you for posting this. It's really no wonder Bethesda went to sue Mojang.
Also, I thought the lawsuit was already settled a few months back? anyone else?
Mojang's trying to trademark a word as common as scrolls was doomed from the start, but the attempt is pretty standard; as companies get larger they get sued, it's a fact of life, and as a friend of mine once said you know you're a real company when you get your first lawsuit. Bethesda was smart to sue over it, and Mojang was smart to fight it, and it's good that it worked out intelligently for all involved.
So I was working on this really cool resource pack a while ago, but bad progress nonwithstanding, I think I found something much better... I'm probably gonna never release another custom Minecraft map.Until we meet again...
I still don't see why everyone blames the coders of a child company for the greed of the parent company's lawyers (zenimax), and it's getting tiresome. Bethesda programs games, Zenimax hoards companies and has done a fairly large amount of copyright trolling prior to this incident. Remember that old interview where they had Notch and one of the level designers for Skyrim talk to eachother? No hostility whatsoever. Ever think of heading on to another media source to find something a little less biased on the subject? I didn't think so.
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You still don't get it. Mojang is the one that tried to trademark the word "Scrolls". That's why Bethesda sent their lawyers to the rescue. Despite what Manneh says fo Bethesda it was always only about the trademark. Bethesda could've taken that trademark a long time ago but they chose not to do so because they think noone should be allowed to trademark a single common word. Mojang thought otherwise and now gave up that trademark. They aren't the good guys here and they aren't the winners.
o_O eh? the lawsuit was beyond stupid, beth doesn't own the word to begin with. besisdes if they care about elder scrolls this much why was skyrim released in the crappy state it was in, for the ps3 only a few played it on the ps3 without problems, i was one of the many that didn't, and they knew and didn't give two shits what we as buyers would have to deal with. when a game costs 60$ i expect it to be somewhat decent in quality. and from a big company like beth i expected better then that.
bottom line they don't give a crap about the game or the gamers, they just are greedy. and if mohjang wants to use the word they have every right to do so. no one owns a single word, even a person's name is not theirs by ownership. if they were going to copy most or a good bit of the game i can see where this would have been remotely needed, but i didn't then and still don't now.
Good on them. Bethesda really has no heart do they?
I must say that it's the legal tem at Bethesda who has no heart.. Don't forget that the developers put the Notched Pickaxe into Skyrim as an easter egg nod to Notch!
Zenimax was doomed to lose this. Their case made the assumption that the average consumer is stupid, and would confuse the 2 games. Anyone with any video game knowledge would see that the games are almost nothing alike.
Zenimax was doomed to lose this. Their case made the assumption that the average consumer is stupid, and would confuse the 2 games. Anyone with any video game knowledge would see that the games are almost nothing alike.
But it could be more different! MINECRAFT NEEDS GUNS!
You still don't get it. Mojang is the one that tried to trademark the word "Scrolls". That's why Bethesda sent their lawyers to the rescue. Despite what Manneh says fo Bethesda it was always only about the trademark. Bethesda could've taken that trademark a long time ago but they chose not to do so because they think noone should be allowed to trademark a single common word. Mojang thought otherwise and now gave up that trademark. They aren't the good guys here and they aren't the winners.
No, this isn't quite right. Bethesda was claiming that the trademark "Scrolls" being used by Mojang is something that diminishes the value of their own trademark and thus needed to be defended. With trademarks, you either defend them or they become "generic" and lose trademark status. "Windows" is a generic term, but as applied to computer operating systems is a trademark that has value.
Still, the ultimate result of this lawsuit is that the term "Scrolls" as applied to computer games has become a generic term and can be claimed by anybody as a name to describe some sort of genera of computer games. While Mojang can use the term "Mojang's Scrolls" and the fancy design to artistically render the word "Scrolls" can be trademarked, the term itself can't be used by itself as a trademark. That has some profound implications for others so far as potentially competing products, and that Mojang can't demand licensing revenue from that term, but it does mean that Mojang and anybody else for that matter can use the term freely in regards to computer software.
Not quite what Mojang was hoping for, but it isn't a bad thing either. "Scrolls Wiki", "ScrollsMod", and other ways to use that generic term can't be restricted by Mojang either.
Goddamn Microsoft for paying Mojang to only have Minecraft exclusively on the Xbox.
I hate them for that.
Or I could be wrong all together, and it could be a LAN type of thing, where they're connected via two different 360s, but still.
I'm still curious how online servers will work. I'd really like to play with someone that lives quite a ways away from me on it. I can't do it on the PC version, because there's horrible lag due to the location differences. I would hope something like playing with people on the other side of the world would work at least a LITTLE better, and maybe be easier to set up the server in the first place.
One can claim a word as your own. Thomas Edison invented the word "Hello".
And Microsoft also has the right to the word 'Word'. No joke.
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Thank you for posting this. It's really no wonder Bethesda went to sue Mojang.
Also, I thought the lawsuit was already settled a few months back? anyone else?
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I hope you realize, even if they did lose money, it wouldn't matter much. Bethesda has I'm sure millions.
o_O eh? the lawsuit was beyond stupid, beth doesn't own the word to begin with. besisdes if they care about elder scrolls this much why was skyrim released in the crappy state it was in, for the ps3 only a few played it on the ps3 without problems, i was one of the many that didn't, and they knew and didn't give two shits what we as buyers would have to deal with. when a game costs 60$ i expect it to be somewhat decent in quality. and from a big company like beth i expected better then that.
bottom line they don't give a crap about the game or the gamers, they just are greedy. and if mohjang wants to use the word they have every right to do so. no one owns a single word, even a person's name is not theirs by ownership. if they were going to copy most or a good bit of the game i can see where this would have been remotely needed, but i didn't then and still don't now.
hahahahahaha
I must say that it's the legal tem at Bethesda who has no heart.. Don't forget that the developers put the Notched Pickaxe into Skyrim as an easter egg nod to Notch!
But it could be more different! MINECRAFT NEEDS GUNS!
No, this isn't quite right. Bethesda was claiming that the trademark "Scrolls" being used by Mojang is something that diminishes the value of their own trademark and thus needed to be defended. With trademarks, you either defend them or they become "generic" and lose trademark status. "Windows" is a generic term, but as applied to computer operating systems is a trademark that has value.
Still, the ultimate result of this lawsuit is that the term "Scrolls" as applied to computer games has become a generic term and can be claimed by anybody as a name to describe some sort of genera of computer games. While Mojang can use the term "Mojang's Scrolls" and the fancy design to artistically render the word "Scrolls" can be trademarked, the term itself can't be used by itself as a trademark. That has some profound implications for others so far as potentially competing products, and that Mojang can't demand licensing revenue from that term, but it does mean that Mojang and anybody else for that matter can use the term freely in regards to computer software.
Not quite what Mojang was hoping for, but it isn't a bad thing either. "Scrolls Wiki", "ScrollsMod", and other ways to use that generic term can't be restricted by Mojang either.
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