[Edit] Nocte has found that it is only Semi-Cubic. [/Edit]
Jeb has released a page of info detailing his new "Anvil" World Save Format for default Minecraft. This format will start being in Minecraft as of this Wednesday's 2012/2/15 12w07a weekly snapshot and thence forth in Minecraft v1.2. Minecraft will auto update your worlds but Jeb has also released the Converter and it's source-code on the info page already linked to.
This new World Save Format and relevant game code add many mod-friendly features and capabilities to Vanilla Minecraft. The Most important of which is that Minecraft is finally leaving behind the old rickety Linear Chunks method and instead adopting a limited height (256) version of the 3D Chunks methodology! This will allow 256 High world games to possibly be faster even than the original 128 Linear Chunk worlds were. :smile.gif: It's been tested in SMP and Jeb reports it to be solid.
Jeb is also adding another of Robinton's ideas into Anvil, native support for 4096 BlockID's! He also gave a shout out to Robinton and his Mod thread at the end of his post, the clear inspiration and demonstration of these features being implemented in Minecraft. :smile.gif:
Robinton's Cubic Chunks Mod is still needed, offering far greater Height + Depth than Anvil, as well as more Terrain options. So please encourage Robinton to keep up the good fight! :smile.gif:
+++ See My Full Statement Regarding This Update [ Here ] and another copy in Robinton's thread [ HERE ].
[ /Update ]
Jeb has announced possible plan to
Increase Default Minecraft World Height! (And SOON)
From the below stream of tweets and responses I have summarized the following:
Jeb is seriously considering raising the Default Minecraft World Height, and soon.
It will likely be raised from the current 128 blocks high to 256 blocks high.
The Minecraft World Terrain Generator will not be changed, so Terrain will remain at current height.
The extra space/height added will be open air, likely an extra 128 blocks of air going up.
You will NOT need to start a new world.
Jeb will include a Converter so you can convert current 128 World Saves to the New Height.
Your converted World will not change except that it will have more space above.
[EDIT_2012-02-09] * More Info from Jeb. Tweets added below in the Tweet section. Pic added below:
Jeb has Higher World tests running on the volunteer treesquid server that he is profiling. Says it's going well.
Jeb is referring to the "New World Format". Is this just the basic extension to 256 or a whole new optimized format?
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[EDIT_2012-02-12] * More Info from Jeb. Tweets added below in Tweet section.
Jeb has essentially confirmed that the "New World Format" he keeps referring to is a more substantial alteration to the current World Save Format than just extending the Height the way fishtaco's Height Mod does.
Jeb says that the "New World Format" is a part of his upgrading Minecraft to support Modding.
Jeb says that he will be releasing Documentation for the "New World Format" so that modders won't have to dissect it to understand it.
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Here are some of my current thoughts and predictions regarding this:
Since it will be Default it should also work for vanilla Servers
This height increase is certain to be using the current minecraft Linear Chunks, unless jeb has a Huge surprise for us.
Slower computers will feel a noticeable drop in FPS, unless jeb has found new improvements.
After many speed complaints Jeb might make 128/256 Option for Worlds, or just drop it.
Spoutcraft is already capable of Linear Chunk 256 height, and more. So fast update. [Video]
bukkit is connected with Jeb so I'm sure it will be ready quickly.
I have tweeted Jeb with some more questions about this.
Having a 256 Height Option in Default Minecraft would be Great!! :smile.gif:
More room for Skylands?
Jebs Tweets, Announcement and answers to questions in chronological order (Top-Down) [Click below]
Notch's tweet proves my assumption of him. He's been too nervous to do the things needed in the game, the things people are praising Jeb for doing.
That point aside, I'm greatly looking forward to this. 1.2 will add so many possibilities to Minecraft. Higher world height will be the best thing to be added since Creative mode.
In the OP I make note of Jeb referring to the "New World Format". It made me wonder if it's just the usual Minecraft world save extended to 256 height like fishtaco's or if he's made more extensive alterations to the World Save Format.
Well; a new tweet from Jeb confirms that there will be more newness than expected coming with his "New World Format". Also; Jeb is creating more Texture space for Minecraft. See Below:
I agree but it MUST have a configuration to how tall it can be, so if you have a better computer sutible for that increase, you can top up the hight as you please, but if you have a slow netbook, you can keep it 128.
A extra document in the world file that controls height will be good, you just replace 128 with 1024 to make yo limit sky-high!
And a height button in create new world page and height=128 in server.properties for noobs who don't know how to do the advanced stuff mentioned above.
[Edit] Nocte has found that it is only Semi-Cubic. [/Edit]
Jeb has released a page of info detailing his new "Anvil" World Save Format for default Minecraft. This format will start being in Minecraft as of this Wednesday's 2012/2/15 12w07a weekly snapshot and thence forth in Minecraft v1.2. Minecraft will auto update your worlds but Jeb has also released the Converter and it's source-code on the info page already linked to.
This new World Save Format and relevant game code add many mod-friendly features and capabilities to Vanilla Minecraft. The Most important of which is that Minecraft is finally leaving behind the old rickety Linear Chunks method and instead adopting a limited height (256) version of the 3D Chunks methodology! This will allow 256 High world games to possibly be faster even than the original 128 Linear Chunk worlds were. :smile.gif: It's been tested in SMP and Jeb reports it to be solid.
Jeb is also adding another of Robinton's ideas into Anvil, native support for 4096 BlockID's! He also gave a shout out to Robinton and his Mod thread at the end of his post, the clear inspiration and demonstration of these features being implemented in Minecraft. :smile.gif:
Robinton's Cubic Chunks Mod is still needed, offering far greater Height + Depth than Anvil, as well as more Terrain options. So please encourage Robinton to keep up the good fight! :smile.gif:
+++ See My Full Statement Regarding This Update [ Here ] and another copy in Robinton's thread [ HERE ].
[ /Update ]
Jeb has announced possible plan to
Increase Default Minecraft World Height! (And SOON)
From the below stream of tweets and responses I have summarized the following:
[EDIT_2012-02-12] * More Info from Jeb. Tweets added below in Tweet section.
Here are some of my current thoughts and predictions regarding this:
This height increase is certain to be using the current minecraftLinear Chunks, unless jeb has a Huge surprise for us.Slower computers will feel a noticeable drop in FPS, unless jeb has found new improvements.After many speed complaints Jeb might make 128/256 Option for Worlds, or just drop it.So fast update. [Video]Jebs Tweets, Announcement and answers to questions in chronological order (Top-Down) [Click below]
[Original]
Jeb: Default world height is likely to be increased in the future, i.imgur.com/nyxrj.png
[Click to see picture below]
[Original]
- Higher ceiling is perfect for those alpine and volcano biomes that I've always wanted, eh? ;-) ;-)
Jeb: Hehe I will not change the world generator though...
[Original]
- How badly would this break current maps?
Jeb: I've made a converter
[Original]
- Will it update current worlds and just add 128 blocks more air on top for example, and not completely screw up existing worlds...
Jeb: Yes
[Original]
- Don't tell me i'll have to restart a world to have this. DON'T
Jeb: No, you don't
[EDIT] New Tweets below:
[Original]
Jeb: Started profiling the increased height worlds, still looking ok.
[Original]
- Are you profiling the increased height worlds on Multiplayer as well?
Jeb: It's multiplayer I'm profiling =)
[Original]
Jeb: I got the Squid Server world (treesquid.tumblr.com) to test the new world format, is working well: i.imgur.com/AJKad.png
[Original]
- So will you implement the height to Minecraft client, or only SMP? I hope both of them....... :|
Jeb: Both of them
[EDITx2] More New Tweets below:
[Original]
- Are you willing to release docs on the new format, or will we have to dissect it?
Jeb: Yes, that will happen
[Original]
- any news on mod support on desktop?
Jeb: The new world file format is part of the preparations for modding... but still a long way to go
@notch Markus Persson
- I am terribly excited about how
@jeb_ is doing things to Minecraft I was cautious of doing. This is exactly what the game needs now. <3Jebs originally posted screenshot:
Jebs New Server screenshot:
* Keep an eye on Minecraft Higher World options in the following thread:
How to have Higher & Deeper Worlds
- The Cubic Chunks Mod is back! Be a part of it's rebirth and Development.
-- Robinton's Mods: [ Mirror ] for some of his Mods incl Cubic Chunks Mod, due to DropBox broken links.
- Dungeon Generator for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
- QuickSAVE-QuickLOAD for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
Could it be, that I can finally build a large castle on top of that mountain over there?
But what! That is the question...
Coming soon: Nintendo World Resource Pack
You know, Skylands would fit very nicely up in that extra space... :wink.gif:
- The Cubic Chunks Mod is back! Be a part of it's rebirth and Development.
-- Robinton's Mods: [ Mirror ] for some of his Mods incl Cubic Chunks Mod, due to DropBox broken links.
- Dungeon Generator for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
- QuickSAVE-QuickLOAD for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
I mean I'm grateful for the new features, and glad to see this change in regards to the potential projects it opens...
but now I really feel bad for suggesting people build a flat glass-shield at 127 to prevent snow. (1.0 -> 1.1 biome shifts)
I mean, its tedious to set up; I can only imagine how bothersome it will be to break down. :<
22-11-11The day I finally realized exactly how immature this community can be
Marv
yay....
Would there be any lag if you didn't build anything up there? It's just air isn't it?
Also, I'm hoping for something like cubic chunks that fix most lag that might be created.
Good idea, hehe. I had a guy whining about snow, I'll tell him to do that. It's not hard at all to setup; just use WorldEdit or MCedit :smile.gif:
That point aside, I'm greatly looking forward to this. 1.2 will add so many possibilities to Minecraft. Higher world height will be the best thing to be added since Creative mode.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=155932
Crates
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=239467
Item Scrolling
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=174539
Jeb has a group Server testing his new experimental Higher World code and performance.
- The Cubic Chunks Mod is back! Be a part of it's rebirth and Development.
-- Robinton's Mods: [ Mirror ] for some of his Mods incl Cubic Chunks Mod, due to DropBox broken links.
- Dungeon Generator for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
- QuickSAVE-QuickLOAD for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
Well; a new tweet from Jeb confirms that there will be more newness than expected coming with his "New World Format". Also; Jeb is creating more Texture space for Minecraft. See Below:
[ Tweet Source 2012-02-10 ]
Jeb: Biome data will be saved with the chunks in the new world format. Tool makers can probably use this to restore old maps.
[ Tweet Source 2012-02-09 ]
- Can you bring back Crying Obsidian or add some new color/texture blocks ?
Jeb: As soon as I've made preparations for more texture space
- The Cubic Chunks Mod is back! Be a part of it's rebirth and Development.
-- Robinton's Mods: [ Mirror ] for some of his Mods incl Cubic Chunks Mod, due to DropBox broken links.
- Dungeon Generator for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
- QuickSAVE-QuickLOAD for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
A extra document in the world file that controls height will be good, you just replace 128 with 1024 to make yo limit sky-high!
And a height button in create new world page and height=128 in server.properties for noobs who don't know how to do the advanced stuff mentioned above.
- The Cubic Chunks Mod is back! Be a part of it's rebirth and Development.
-- Robinton's Mods: [ Mirror ] for some of his Mods incl Cubic Chunks Mod, due to DropBox broken links.
- Dungeon Generator for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
- QuickSAVE-QuickLOAD for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
- The Cubic Chunks Mod is back! Be a part of it's rebirth and Development.
-- Robinton's Mods: [ Mirror ] for some of his Mods incl Cubic Chunks Mod, due to DropBox broken links.
- Dungeon Generator for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod
- QuickSAVE-QuickLOAD for the Open Cubic Chunks Mod