You know, with all the secret passage types, maybe we ought to have a Clone Block that can look like any other block. That would solve all the problems with other blocks getting uses that make them impervious to pistons.
I've seen that in the Secret Rooms mod...and it's a mechanic that honestly annoys me. The idea of some kind of magic "look like anything" block just makes me cringe. Leaving aside trying to wrap your head around the logic of it, I don't like the idea of "Get one block of something valuable, then use these dummy blocks to make your whole house look like it...and get back the materials from the storage block". I'd rather have a few dummy/façade blocks for specific things, rather than having a built-in "cheat".
Or When You Place down a Bookshelf it asks you, decorative or openable.
Yeah, I could see that working. Maybe it's a once-for-all choice or maybe you could change it later. Or maybe you can change it by picking it up and putting it down again. Maybe you pick your option by shift-chicking to place a merely decorative one?
Anon, I can see what you mean about having inexpensive blocks take the place of more valuable ones. But perhaps the clone blocks could be expensive themselves? E.g. you use a ghast tear to create them, or you have to buy them from villagers and they cost a lot of emeralds. Would this suffice?
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Yeah, I could see that working. Maybe it's a once-for-all choice or maybe you could change it later. Or maybe you can change it by picking it up and putting it down again. Maybe you pick your option by shift-chicking to place a merely decorative one?
Anon, I can see what you mean about having inexpensive blocks take the place of more valuable ones. But perhaps the clone blocks could be expensive themselves? E.g. you use a ghast tear to create them, or you have to buy them from villagers and they cost a lot of emeralds. Would this suffice?
Probably would, but I think any cost that would be acceptable for balance would also remove a lot of the advantage to using it. Also, making a Storage Shelf a separate item suggests another property that would be more useful. Rather than just books, widen the options a bit. Let it hold books, potions, food, and maybe other "small" objects. Do like several mods do, and let the texture update based on how full it is, but also have different textures for different items (or at least classes of items). So, filled with books it's a bookshelf, or it might be loaded with potions for a wine rack, or carrots and potatoes to decorate a pantry. Or maybe even a mix of items if you include a cookbook in your kitchen, or a potion or two to represent the liquor cabinet among the bookshelves in the study.
Perhaps when you place it, it asks what sort of material you plan to store, and you choose one of 4-8 options, at which point you can't store other things in it. The visuals (texture and GUI) would change but it would be the same sort of block, and if you picked it up and placed it again you could change its category.
So you could make it into a potions shelf, which'd store only potions, then you could break it and place it again and turn it into a bin for raw food. Or the like.
Yeah, I like that.
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Between these two posts, my thoughts almost exactly. However, making bookcases a container would make them unable to be moved with pistons, and I would hate to lose secret passages in bookcases. So, I would suggest making a new block, like the Storage Bookshelf in the Enhanced Books mod.
I would definitely like to see bookshelves that can hold books. This makes a lot more sense than having them as the purely decorative objects they currently are. I'd be willing to support either a 1x9 grid as you have or a 3x3 grid as a crafting square has (or perhaps a 2x4 grid, since the bookshelves visually have 2 shelves).
A bookshelf without any books on it should look different from one that has books. Possibly it could have three looks: empty, half-full, and full.
Perhaps for a bookshelf to enhance enchanting tables, you have to add at least one book to it, and the enhancement is greater if you've added an enchanted book of any type. So you end up storing a bunch of enchanted books to make all the bookshelves actually work. Possibly: Full with Enchanted Books > Full with Some Enchanted Books > Full with No Enchanted Books, and Full with Some Enchanted Books > Half-Full with Some Enchanted Books, but Half-Full with Some Enchanted Books > Full with No Enchanted Books.
Could also be that bookcases with written books be good too. Maybe worse than enchanted books but better than normal books.
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Why not? No more 'shelves' of chests holding books in my library anymore!
Furthermore, I'm guessing this could lead to grander ideas regarding enchanting, such as maybe having different books in the bookcases could yield different enchantments. Obviously, since the current enchantment system is simple enough, it would have to be expanded to accomodate this idea.
Hmm.. I agree and I want to add something. When you put an enchanted book in the bookshelf which is placed near an enchantment table it has more chances to get that enchantment afterwards
I do agree with you on this one. This is pretty much the same aspect with a lot of things in minecraft. They have the item but they don't really add the main thing that they are associated with or main function. They originally added bookshelves as decorations but then they randomly paired them up with enchanting tables. I do get that the enchantment table is taking knowledge from the books yes but seriously it's called bookshelf for a reason. This could also add to the enchanting because you could make so that if you have written books or enchanted books in the bookshelf you would get more enchanting power than if you had regular books in there. I would be delighted to see this implemented. Support.
You should craft bookshelves with only 6 wood, and they would make empty shelves, they could each hold 3 stacks of items (you do need three books to make a book shelf after all), make a huge wall of shelves and it would add to the storage (As one guy here already said "Like large chests to the max") the empty shelves are then placed on a wall and change texture depending on whats in them.
They could use the same thing chests do to output a redstone current depending on how full they are.
A single slot filled with books would make a sparsely filled shelf with a small amount of books, 2 slots filled with books would make a moderately packed shelf, and 3 would make a shelve densely packed full like the shelves we see in game now.
A slot of papers would put scrolls on the shelves, if books are already present it would scatter scrolls among them
A slot filled with ink would place an inkwell in the corner of the shelf, and a slot of feathers would add glass filled with feather quils to the opposite corner
If you fill a shelf with dyes the shelf would take on an appearance similar to a spice rack
Putting things like sugar, milk, potatoes, carrots, bread and what-not would give it the look of a kitchen pantry
And a shelf carrying potions would look like wine rack, or if already partially filled with papers or books would place a potion here and there on the shelf.
That would be quite a few texture to make but with the way people make random textures and connected textures along with the new way textures will be handled it shouldn't be too difficult to correctly implement
How about if the storage Bookshelf is independent of the normal Bookshelf, crafted as:
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So normal Bookshelves can still be moved around, while Storage Bookshelves can't, but can store books.
How about if the storage Bookshelf is independent of the normal Bookshelf, crafted as:
3 Planks
Nothing
3 Planks
So normal Bookshelves can still be moved around, while Storage Bookshelves can't, but can store books.
I would personally love this, but It should only be able to hold books, written books, enchanted books and writable books. 01010011 01110101 01110000 01110000 01101111 01110010 01110100!(Inspired by your icon.)
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Between these two posts, my thoughts almost exactly. However, making bookcases a container would make them unable to be moved with pistons, and I would hate to lose secret passages in bookcases. So, I would suggest making a new block, like the Storage Bookshelf in the Enhanced Books mod.
i think that it shouldnt make it impossible to move, chest carts move from pistons
I've seen that in the Secret Rooms mod...and it's a mechanic that honestly annoys me. The idea of some kind of magic "look like anything" block just makes me cringe. Leaving aside trying to wrap your head around the logic of it, I don't like the idea of "Get one block of something valuable, then use these dummy blocks to make your whole house look like it...and get back the materials from the storage block". I'd rather have a few dummy/façade blocks for specific things, rather than having a built-in "cheat".
Yeah, I could see that working. Maybe it's a once-for-all choice or maybe you could change it later. Or maybe you can change it by picking it up and putting it down again. Maybe you pick your option by shift-chicking to place a merely decorative one?
Anon, I can see what you mean about having inexpensive blocks take the place of more valuable ones. But perhaps the clone blocks could be expensive themselves? E.g. you use a ghast tear to create them, or you have to buy them from villagers and they cost a lot of emeralds. Would this suffice?
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Probably would, but I think any cost that would be acceptable for balance would also remove a lot of the advantage to using it. Also, making a Storage Shelf a separate item suggests another property that would be more useful. Rather than just books, widen the options a bit. Let it hold books, potions, food, and maybe other "small" objects. Do like several mods do, and let the texture update based on how full it is, but also have different textures for different items (or at least classes of items). So, filled with books it's a bookshelf, or it might be loaded with potions for a wine rack, or carrots and potatoes to decorate a pantry. Or maybe even a mix of items if you include a cookbook in your kitchen, or a potion or two to represent the liquor cabinet among the bookshelves in the study.
Perhaps when you place it, it asks what sort of material you plan to store, and you choose one of 4-8 options, at which point you can't store other things in it. The visuals (texture and GUI) would change but it would be the same sort of block, and if you picked it up and placed it again you could change its category.
So you could make it into a potions shelf, which'd store only potions, then you could break it and place it again and turn it into a bin for raw food. Or the like.
Yeah, I like that.
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Thanks!
Thanks, all i know, is that this should be added. So Much Support!
Furthermore, I'm guessing this could lead to grander ideas regarding enchanting, such as maybe having different books in the bookcases could yield different enchantments. Obviously, since the current enchantment system is simple enough, it would have to be expanded to accomodate this idea.
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They could use the same thing chests do to output a redstone current depending on how full they are.
A single slot filled with books would make a sparsely filled shelf with a small amount of books, 2 slots filled with books would make a moderately packed shelf, and 3 would make a shelve densely packed full like the shelves we see in game now.
A slot of papers would put scrolls on the shelves, if books are already present it would scatter scrolls among them
A slot filled with ink would place an inkwell in the corner of the shelf, and a slot of feathers would add glass filled with feather quils to the opposite corner
If you fill a shelf with dyes the shelf would take on an appearance similar to a spice rack
Putting things like sugar, milk, potatoes, carrots, bread and what-not would give it the look of a kitchen pantry
And a shelf carrying potions would look like wine rack, or if already partially filled with papers or books would place a potion here and there on the shelf.
That would be quite a few texture to make but with the way people make random textures and connected textures along with the new way textures will be handled it shouldn't be too difficult to correctly implement
3 Planks
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3 Planks
So normal Bookshelves can still be moved around, while Storage Bookshelves can't, but can store books.
Hmm -Ideas Ideas-
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