What I would have liked is when you stepped in a swamp it would act like you were near bedrock, causing you to have a black tiny fog with particles. THAT would make it swampy. But true, the jaggedness is weird.
I dont mind the evilness. I think it makes it swampy. I do not think the swamps look ugly. I think they look evil. There is a difference. I am signing this and also requesting they add more vegetation to make it swampier, and also have particles that look like bugs floating around. Kewlness abound.
Want to know why? I like the biome's coloring system as it is. Remember this image in the game files?
This image defines not only the color of the grass in the biome, but also it generates the transition from one biome to another. See, what it does is this: When minecraft loads a biome, it selects a single pixel from the chart to color that specific biome. When it comes into contact with another biome, the game draws a line to another single pixel that defines the color of the next biome. The line between these two pixels then takes all the colors that the chart has between those points and uses that as the transition, creating a very smooth transition between two biomes. Now here is the problem: that image was last edited October 2010, they have just been shaping the biomes around that chart. Since notch is busy with other games, we are left with two people who weren't working on minecraft when that chart was created. Therefore there are two possibilities: they either remove the new color all together for grass and trees, or they re-make the biome chart and recode biomes all together, as there is no way in HELL that they can keep the grass shade and the current chart as it is.
We are not asking that they remove the overlay. As you've pointed out, adding an overlay to biomes whose coloration doesn't fit nicely on the shader we already have is the simplest and most viable solution. What we *are* asking is for that overlay to be editable with texture packs as opposed to being hardcoded into the .class files. That's all.
Here is what they would be probably be working with(not sure if the color is off, but that's what the hue is according to the code...)
Also, while I was digging around the Coding I found this. Anyone have any idea what it would be used for? I have a feeling that it's used for weather or the day/night cycle...
public int getSkyColorByTemp(float f)
{
f /= 3F;
if(f < -1F)
{
f = -1F;
}
if(f > 1.0F)
{
f = 1.0F;
}
return java.awt.Color.getHSBColor(0.6222222F - f * 0.05F, 0.5F + f * 0.1F, 1.0F).getRGB();
}
I honestly have no idea. I'm not a coder, I don't know java at all. As for that image, all we want is for it (or something like it) to exist as a .png file somewhere in the .jar, so that we don't have to know how to program in java just to change something's color, which is usually the domain of the texture pack.
Not sure what you are all talking about, my world has a massive marshland in it that is larger then my view distance and then some and I only thing I feel is missing is a random alligator attack as I canoe through it... It looks like a swamp.. feels like a swamp, waist deep water, lily pads, not much wild life everything is a little to silent and creepy like i'm being stalked by several hungry gators or something.. I like it.
Not sure what you are all talking about, my world has a massive marshland in it that is larger then my view distance and then some and I only thing I feel is missing is a random alligator attack as I canoe through it... It looks like a swamp.. feels like a swamp, waist deep water, lily pads, not much wild life everything is a little to silent and creepy like i'm being stalked by several hungry gators or something.. I like it.
If you're using the default texture pack and playing as a Survivalist, then yes, it's more-or-less fine. But if you're trying to put together a massive Creative project, or using one a texture pack in which the overlay turns the green into **** brown, then it's a problem. We don't want it to be changed or taken away in vanilla default Minecraft, all we want is the ability to edit it ourselves with texture packs.
According to the coding, the color is more or less purple on top of the biome chart.
Yes, but it's a purple *overlay*. For the default shade of green, this results in a dark, broody shade of green. For richer, lusher shades of green than the default, it turns them puke colored.
So the complaint is that the swamp overlay doesn't work well with your texture pack? Find a texture pack that does work with it? I dont know.. if its the color contrast between the brighter green and darker greens that is intentional and is very realistic to the swamp feel. On the ground it gives a sense of wet muddy grass and dry land grass. I would like to see more variety in colors such as trees. Where is the trees with red and orange leaves that make fall time so beautiful? suppose if they put those in, people would complain because they don't mix well with their texture packs also.
Just seems like you are upset that a third party product (texture pack) is not living up to your expectations when from Mojang's perspective the biome works fine, and as a user of default textures I agree. yet I would argue they should change the sun and moon of the default texture to a blocky circle like
I dont mind the evilness. I think it makes it swampy. I do not think the swamps look ugly. I think they look evil. There is a difference. I am signing this and also requesting they add more vegetation to make it swampier, and also have particles that look like bugs floating around. Kewlness abound.
/signed
We are not asking that they remove the overlay. As you've pointed out, adding an overlay to biomes whose coloration doesn't fit nicely on the shader we already have is the simplest and most viable solution. What we *are* asking is for that overlay to be editable with texture packs as opposed to being hardcoded into the .class files. That's all.
I honestly have no idea. I'm not a coder, I don't know java at all. As for that image, all we want is for it (or something like it) to exist as a .png file somewhere in the .jar, so that we don't have to know how to program in java just to change something's color, which is usually the domain of the texture pack.
Click for penguins in minecraft!
Jeb made jungles.
Notch made Minecraft.
Notch > Jeb
But in all seriousness, I very much agree that Jeb has been doing a better job than Notch in refining an already-great game.
But the ugly-ass color is still uneditable.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=155932
Crates
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=239467
Item Scrolling
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=174539
I like the swamps the only thing they should add to it is mud.
If you're using the default texture pack and playing as a Survivalist, then yes, it's more-or-less fine. But if you're trying to put together a massive Creative project, or using one a texture pack in which the overlay turns the green into **** brown, then it's a problem. We don't want it to be changed or taken away in vanilla default Minecraft, all we want is the ability to edit it ourselves with texture packs.
Yes, but it's a purple *overlay*. For the default shade of green, this results in a dark, broody shade of green. For richer, lusher shades of green than the default, it turns them puke colored.
Just seems like you are upset that a third party product (texture pack) is not living up to your expectations when from Mojang's perspective the biome works fine, and as a user of default textures I agree. yet I would argue they should change the sun and moon of the default texture to a blocky circle like
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instead of just the square.
Want a texture pack to make your swamp trees look this color?
Too bad.
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