Barbed wire futuristic thing you know. in the past werent barbed wire, and minecraft is the past.
i hope im not the only person to tell you this but...that's possibly the stupidest thing i've read in a while...
barbed wire was made back in the mid 1800's if not earlier. the first patent was in 1874. i'm pretty sure we're not playing in the middle ages. and if you think barbed wire is futuristic, The Jetsons must blow your mind. I'd suggest you watch Star Wars, Star Trek, or play Halo, but your brain would literally collapse into a sigularity and destroy all life as we know it...
barbed wire recipe A: 3 iron ingots in middle with 3 cacti on top and 3 on bottom
barbed wire recipe B: 1 string in middle surrounded by 8 iron ingots
barbed wire recipe C: 1 string in middle surrounded by 8 cacti
barbed wire recipe D: 1 iron ingot in middle surrounded by 8 cacti
yeild: 4-6 fence pieces
appearance: cobwebs only the color of iron fence pieces
damage: same as cacti
damage resistance: same as iron fence, door, or block
can be moved through like cobweb but damages you entire time
can be broken with anything but only collected with shears
and as previously stated, NO ELECTRICITY this is minecraft, not prison tycoon. do you wanna ride a mine cart or ride the lightning? it's been said before but..."whats with people wanting to be Zeus? its disturbing."
I suspect this might result in the death of many, many farm animals... and subsequent complaints from farmer players... and subsequent disuse of the item resulting in yet another seldom used item int he Minecraft inventory.
I suspect this might result in the death of many, many farm animals... and subsequent complaints from farmer players... and subsequent disuse of the item resulting in yet another seldom used item int he Minecraft inventory.
The animals are all programmed to try to jump up onto a block in front of them. That's how they manage to move around the map and also why they jump continually when they come up against a fence. If the fence were barbed such that it damages them, you would have no animals inside your pen to worry about within a very short time. Instead, I control their jumping by creating a current of water away from the fence towards the center of the pen.
barbed wire recipe A: 3 iron ingots in middle with 3 cacti on top and 3 on bottom
barbed wire recipe B: 1 string in middle surrounded by 8 iron ingots
barbed wire recipe C: 1 string in middle surrounded by 8 cacti
barbed wire recipe D: 1 iron ingot in middle surrounded by 8 cacti
yeild: 4-6 fence pieces
appearance: cobwebs only the color of iron fence pieces
damage: same as cacti
damage resistance: same as iron fence, door, or block
can be moved through like cobweb but damages you entire time
can be broken with anything but only collected with shears
and as previously stated, NO ELECTRICITY this is minecraft, not prison tycoon. do you wanna ride a mine cart or ride the lightning? it's been said before but..."whats with people wanting to be Zeus? its disturbing."
I like Recipe A. It's not overly straining on the iron supply, and Cacti are pretty easy to get at times.
But Recipe B I would be willing to settle with as well. If it meant that the fence supply was doubled.
The animals are all programmed to try to jump up onto a block in front of them. That's how they manage to move around the map and also why they jump continually when they come up against a fence. If the fence were barbed such that it damages them, you would have no animals inside your pen to worry about within a very short time. Instead, I control their jumping by creating a current of water away from the fence towards the center of the pen.
If you didn't already realize, there is already electricity in the game. All you would have to do is hook up iron bar fence up to a redstone circuit and that would be charged fence that would electrocute anything that touched it. Not very futuristic. They had it for as long as they had electricity, so we are talking late 1800's. Around the time that TNT started coming out. As for the animals getting hurt by barbed wire, this would only happen if the fence was short. If it was two tall with the barbed wire on top of that, it would not be a problem and it would keep out trolls.
Longer distance, I'd concur with, Infinite? no... and here's why. As soon as you get a redstone activated electric fence into the game, the next thing some will ask for is an electric current detector so they can trigger some other redstone technology when the fence is turned on.
Now you have a 'wire' that can carry a redstone current an unlimited distance to handle redstone mechanisms clear across the map (theoretically) into 'inactive' chunks (chunks too far away to support hostile MOB or redstone circuitry).
Several mods will let current travel 10x (or more) further than through redstone dust, but it does eventually deplete in those models as well. (say a 15 strength redstone current adds 150 Electrical Units/EU to a fence or wire, that can now deplete at 1 EU per square traveled, and still be limited but not as limited as the redstone dust alone).
The thing is that the thicker the medium the charge flows through, the farther the charge can go. A metal fence would be thicker than the redstone dust trail on the ground, thus allowing it to flow for a farther distance from the source.What kind of barbed wire should be in the game? The coil kind or the straight wire kind?
The thing is that the thicker the medium the charge flows through, the farther the charge can go. A metal fence would be thicker than the redstone dust trail on the ground, thus allowing it to flow for a farther distance from the source.
I'm confused... were you disagreeing with my statement that the run for electricity should be extended but not be infinite... or were you agreeing with it? You basically just restated what I had stated, when I suggested 10x the distance, but not infinite.
If you didn't already realize, there is already electricity in the game. All you would have to do is hook up iron bar fence up to a redstone circuit and that would be charged fence that would electrocute anything that touched it. Not very futuristic. They had it for as long as they had electricity, so we are talking late 1800's. Around the time that TNT started coming out. As for the animals getting hurt by barbed wire, this would only happen if the fence was short. If it was two tall with the barbed wire on top of that, it would not be a problem and it would keep out trolls.
i didnt know trolls were in the game!
redstone isnt electricity per se. btw nice history lesson you googled there. must've taken you all night.
If you didn't already realize, there is already electricity in the game. All you would have to do is hook up iron bar fence up to a redstone circuit and that would be charged fence that would electrocute anything that touched it. Not very futuristic. They had it for as long as they had electricity, so we are talking late 1800's. Around the time that TNT started coming out. As for the animals getting hurt by barbed wire, this would only happen if the fence was short. If it was two tall with the barbed wire on top of that, it would not be a problem and it would keep out trolls.
also, back to YOU again...they had electricity before the 1800's. baghdad battery. look it up. thousands of years befor the leyden jar, james watts, or any of those guys. also, dynamite proper was invented by alfred nobel, creator of the nobel prize. but the chinese had black powder before his great grandfather's great grandfather was born.
no google needed.
btw nice history lesson you googled there. must've taken you all night.
also, back to YOU again..
no google needed.
Taking things a bit personally.... aren't we? You may want to check yourself before you go off half cocked on your holy crusade to try and crucify another for simply giving their opinion.
If Redstone is not electricity then it must be some kind of invisible magic. Also I apologize for being slightly off dates wise. Well TNT is what is in the game, not that Chinese black powder, so your point is still invalid.
If Redstone is not electricity then it must be some kind of invisible magic.
Redstone is NOT electricity... it is some kind of red magic. LOL
Seriously though, Redstone behaves similar to electricity, but is not electricity, and does not share all the characteristics of electricity.... just some of those characteristics, enough that we can make basic Redstone circuits... although, technically they are not really circuits, because they do not complete a loop from power to source, and there is no real charge polarity (+/-), just simply on or off. You use dust instead of metal to transport the signal, and in Vanilla MC, Redstone current is not conductive at all through metal. You don't get shocked if you touch a live redstone charge,even if you stand in water.
It is easy enough to show that although Redstone is 'like' electricity in a lot of ways, it is also not like electricity in many other ways. MC is largely a magic/fantasy setting, and tends to shy away from being to technological in its ambiance, so it is quite easy to say that it should be magic instead of electricity.
....but being a geek at heart... I still like the idea of treating it as electricity for the purposes of carrying live current through a metal fence or wire.
The invisible magic was a reference. Also, if it is powering lightbulbs and hydraulic pistons, then it is electricity. All they did was simplify electricity so someone that knows nothing about electricity can use it. Also it not being conductive through metal could be developer laziness rather than it not being electricity.
The invisible magic was a reference. Also, if it is powering lightbulbs and hydraulic pistons, then it is electricity. All they did was simplify electricity so someone that knows nothing about electricity can use it. Also it not being conductive through metal could be developer laziness rather than it not being electricity.
That, sir, is a fallacy in logic.
* First off, there aren't any 'electric light bulbs' per se, there are redstone lamps and glow stone... which never burn out nor expire... heck glow stone doesn't even require a power source for illumination.
* Second, they are pistons, not specifically hydraulic in nature, and if they were hydraulic, they would only need a change in fluid pressure to activate/deactivate, electricity is not required for hydraulic pistons to work.
Just because 'we' use electricity (IRL) to illuminate our houses and 'we' use electricity (IRL) to pump fluids to operate hydraulic devices... does not infer that that is the only way to do so and accomplish those tasks.
I and almost everyone else consider redstone lamps as a giant cube shaped light bulb. Same principle. It runs on electricity, just as any other light bulb would. Redstone currents are electricity, and there is no denying it. There are more similarities between the two than differences. The only way to light houses in real life without electricity is candles and oil lamps. Electricity is required to use a light bulb.
Taking things a bit personally.... aren't we? You may want to check yourself before you go off half cocked on your holy crusade to try and crucify another for simply giving their opinion.
yeah...bad mood too bad theres not a donkey emoticon because i feel like an...well...you know.
I and almost everyone else consider redstone lamps as a giant cube shaped light bulb. Same principle. It runs on electricity, just as any other light bulb would. Redstone currents are electricity, and there is no denying it. There are more similarities between the two than differences. The only way to light houses in real life without electricity is candles and oil lamps. Electricity is required to use a light bulb.
I and almost everyone else consider redstone lamps as a giant cube shaped light bulb. Same principle. It runs on electricity, just as any other light bulb would. Redstone currents are electricity, and there is no denying it. There are more similarities between the two than differences. The only way to light houses in real life without electricity is candles and oil lamps. Electricity is required to use a light bulb.
Sooo... Glowstone is electrical in its natural state from the Nether? Curious.... and here I thought that they didn't have redstone technology in use there... should be able to use Glowstone as batteries then... right?
Why don't we just agree to disagree. I'm not going to be convinced that redstone = electricity just because you say so, and apparently it doesn't matter what I say either... I doubt I could sway you even if I came up with 3 real life examples to produce light that do not make (direct) use of an electrical circuit.... to include... lava.
I could even argue that a redstone lamp technically doesn't 'produce' light, rather it takes the ambient light that is naturally and continuously produced by the glowstone and turns it off.
i hope im not the only person to tell you this but...that's possibly the stupidest thing i've read in a while...
barbed wire was made back in the mid 1800's if not earlier. the first patent was in 1874. i'm pretty sure we're not playing in the middle ages. and if you think barbed wire is futuristic, The Jetsons must blow your mind. I'd suggest you watch Star Wars, Star Trek, or play Halo, but your brain would literally collapse into a sigularity and destroy all life as we know it...
BARBED WIRE = good
ELECTRIC FENCE = bad
barbed wire recipe A: 3 iron ingots in middle with 3 cacti on top and 3 on bottom
barbed wire recipe B: 1 string in middle surrounded by 8 iron ingots
barbed wire recipe C: 1 string in middle surrounded by 8 cacti
barbed wire recipe D: 1 iron ingot in middle surrounded by 8 cacti
yeild: 4-6 fence pieces
appearance: cobwebs only the color of iron fence pieces
damage: same as cacti
damage resistance: same as iron fence, door, or block
can be moved through like cobweb but damages you entire time
can be broken with anything but only collected with shears
and as previously stated, NO ELECTRICITY this is minecraft, not prison tycoon. do you wanna ride a mine cart or ride the lightning? it's been said before but..."whats with people wanting to be Zeus? its disturbing."
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thats on PC and it could take another year just for us to reach 1.5 :/
it'll help you figure out which animals are smart
The animals are all programmed to try to jump up onto a block in front of them. That's how they manage to move around the map and also why they jump continually when they come up against a fence. If the fence were barbed such that it damages them, you would have no animals inside your pen to worry about within a very short time. Instead, I control their jumping by creating a current of water away from the fence towards the center of the pen.
I like Recipe A. It's not overly straining on the iron supply, and Cacti are pretty easy to get at times.
But Recipe B I would be willing to settle with as well. If it meant that the fence supply was doubled.
A) use water
dont use it for animal pens
8 piece yield? sounds better actually.
I'm confused... were you disagreeing with my statement that the run for electricity should be extended but not be infinite... or were you agreeing with it? You basically just restated what I had stated, when I suggested 10x the distance, but not infinite.
I think coiled, that way it can take up the whole block space.
i didnt know trolls were in the game!
redstone isnt electricity per se. btw nice history lesson you googled there. must've taken you all night.
i say make it look like a cobweb
also, back to YOU again...they had electricity before the 1800's. baghdad battery. look it up. thousands of years befor the leyden jar, james watts, or any of those guys. also, dynamite proper was invented by alfred nobel, creator of the nobel prize. but the chinese had black powder before his great grandfather's great grandfather was born.
no google needed.
Taking things a bit personally.... aren't we? You may want to check yourself before you go off half cocked on your holy crusade to try and crucify another for simply giving their opinion.
You are literally invalidating yourself kaiju.
Redstone is NOT electricity... it is some kind of red magic. LOL
Seriously though, Redstone behaves similar to electricity, but is not electricity, and does not share all the characteristics of electricity.... just some of those characteristics, enough that we can make basic Redstone circuits... although, technically they are not really circuits, because they do not complete a loop from power to source, and there is no real charge polarity (+/-), just simply on or off. You use dust instead of metal to transport the signal, and in Vanilla MC, Redstone current is not conductive at all through metal. You don't get shocked if you touch a live redstone charge,even if you stand in water.
It is easy enough to show that although Redstone is 'like' electricity in a lot of ways, it is also not like electricity in many other ways. MC is largely a magic/fantasy setting, and tends to shy away from being to technological in its ambiance, so it is quite easy to say that it should be magic instead of electricity.
....but being a geek at heart... I still like the idea of treating it as electricity for the purposes of carrying live current through a metal fence or wire.
That, sir, is a fallacy in logic.
* First off, there aren't any 'electric light bulbs' per se, there are redstone lamps and glow stone... which never burn out nor expire... heck glow stone doesn't even require a power source for illumination.
* Second, they are pistons, not specifically hydraulic in nature, and if they were hydraulic, they would only need a change in fluid pressure to activate/deactivate, electricity is not required for hydraulic pistons to work.
Just because 'we' use electricity (IRL) to illuminate our houses and 'we' use electricity (IRL) to pump fluids to operate hydraulic devices... does not infer that that is the only way to do so and accomplish those tasks.
yeah...bad mood too bad theres not a donkey emoticon because i feel like an...well...you know.
my apologies to Radioactiv
electricity? or...MAGIC? o.O
Sooo... Glowstone is electrical in its natural state from the Nether? Curious.... and here I thought that they didn't have redstone technology in use there... should be able to use Glowstone as batteries then... right?
Why don't we just agree to disagree. I'm not going to be convinced that redstone = electricity just because you say so, and apparently it doesn't matter what I say either... I doubt I could sway you even if I came up with 3 real life examples to produce light that do not make (direct) use of an electrical circuit.... to include... lava.
I could even argue that a redstone lamp technically doesn't 'produce' light, rather it takes the ambient light that is naturally and continuously produced by the glowstone and turns it off.