Everyone here is neglecting the fact that there are people who are hosting servers places where they cannot control/access their routers. Examples of this include: Workplace, College Dorms, Public places, etc, etc.
Arguining this anymore would be childish and fruitless.
TBH, if port forwarding is a problem for people trying to host a server even after the fact there is a guide and walk through for almost every router out there and numerous threads and forms of resources to assist in doing it right, they probably should not be hosting a server in the first place.
Everyone here is neglecting the fact that there are people who are hosting servers places where they cannot control/access their routers. Examples of this include: Workplace, College Dorms, Public places, etc, etc.
Arguining this anymore would be childish and fruitless.
I have something for this. besides the fact I am and can prove a degree in web technology and the experience.
WorkPlace: Most workplaces will fire you for misusing their equipment in such a manner.
Public Location: Why are you hosting a serve in a public location? You should make your server stationary, also they can refuse service of their internet to you if you use it at such bandwidth extremes..
College Dorms: You will be using up the colleges bandwidth and they can and will remove you from service.
etc etc: please lsit all your ridiculous locations.
A server should be stationed in single area, not moved around. You Ip will change based on the area your in and the connection you connect to. Not a good practice. You should be setting up your server in a designated area, and to tell you the truth and realistically, it should not be on your home computer but on a computer you don't care about. You are opening that computer to the net regardless what you do. a VPN will help but wont 100% protect you, especially when someone decides to DOS you to hell. Think they wont? then I laugh at your incompetence.
Port forwarding is not hard. Granite there are kids that would like to start a server and their parents wont let them port forward and for good reason. Just talk to them about getting a server online. There are plenty of cheap hosting's especially for small servers. you should start out small anyways and build it up.
There are such thing as prepaid visa cards. You don't need your parents to use their card or information. Go to the store and buy one and put it on a PayPal account and use that to buy a server, just make sure to either get a reloadable prepaid visa or get another one to make sure your server doesn't go down.
I mean a kid with a(n) allowance of like $10 a week can pay for a server that charges 4-10$ a month.
No allowance? parents wont let you start a server? Well that's just tough luck. Hamachi or see if a friend will help or just deal with it till your old enough for a job.
Now with that..
*queue in smart aleck, know it all responses that are futile in ever word spoken, because they think that information given is incorrect when its true, and I bet this line will get responses to* <- what!?! its true LOL
So in the end the only defense against using this software is that it may slow down your service(most likely will) and that the places that you need to use it, you shouldn't. This is mostly true looking at the reasons ti01shadow listed. However, you cannot always know every situation. Everything isn't black and white.
For example, the whole reason I'm here is because I can't port forward. I've done it a few years back at my parent's house and it worked. Now I'm in college living in a townhome. My internet service is inclusive with my rent so I can use it how I want. The internet works astonishingly well giving me download and upload rates I'm nowhere near used to. But the problem is that the internet is provided through the town homes routers to my router.
I just want to be able to setup a server so my friends from back home can play Minecraft along with me.
This is the biggest help I have had since discovering I was behind multiple routers.
So YES this post does help whether or not I plan to use the program.
and I agree with your viewpoint.
Arguining this anymore would be childish and fruitless.
*agrees*
I have something for this. besides the fact I am and can prove a degree in web technology and the experience.
WorkPlace: Most workplaces will fire you for misusing their equipment in such a manner.
Public Location: Why are you hosting a serve in a public location? You should make your server stationary, also they can refuse service of their internet to you if you use it at such bandwidth extremes..
College Dorms: You will be using up the colleges bandwidth and they can and will remove you from service.
etc etc: please lsit all your ridiculous locations.
A server should be stationed in single area, not moved around. You Ip will change based on the area your in and the connection you connect to. Not a good practice. You should be setting up your server in a designated area, and to tell you the truth and realistically, it should not be on your home computer but on a computer you don't care about. You are opening that computer to the net regardless what you do. a VPN will help but wont 100% protect you, especially when someone decides to DOS you to hell. Think they wont? then I laugh at your incompetence.
Port forwarding is not hard. Granite there are kids that would like to start a server and their parents wont let them port forward and for good reason. Just talk to them about getting a server online. There are plenty of cheap hosting's especially for small servers. you should start out small anyways and build it up.
There are such thing as prepaid visa cards. You don't need your parents to use their card or information. Go to the store and buy one and put it on a PayPal account and use that to buy a server, just make sure to either get a reloadable prepaid visa or get another one to make sure your server doesn't go down.
I mean a kid with a(n) allowance of like $10 a week can pay for a server that charges 4-10$ a month.
No allowance? parents wont let you start a server? Well that's just tough luck. Hamachi or see if a friend will help or just deal with it till your old enough for a job.
Now with that..
*queue in smart aleck, know it all responses that are futile in ever word spoken, because they think that information given is incorrect when its true, and I bet this line will get responses to* <- what!?! its true LOL
For example, the whole reason I'm here is because I can't port forward. I've done it a few years back at my parent's house and it worked. Now I'm in college living in a townhome. My internet service is inclusive with my rent so I can use it how I want. The internet works astonishingly well giving me download and upload rates I'm nowhere near used to. But the problem is that the internet is provided through the town homes routers to my router.
I just want to be able to setup a server so my friends from back home can play Minecraft along with me.
This is the biggest help I have had since discovering I was behind multiple routers.
So YES this post does help whether or not I plan to use the program.