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look no matter what you add to EE3 nobody will like it as much at all as EE2 I mean im sure its going to be kinda fun but me and a ton of other poeple won't like it as much without red matter and the catalysts

Quote from MarrettiKing

look no matter what you add to EE3 nobody will like it as much at all as EE2 I mean im sure its going to be kinda fun but me and a ton of other poeple won't like it as much without red matter and the catalysts

And how do you know that? Do you come from the future? Wait until it's done, or make your own Equivalent Exchange mod.

Quote from MarrettiKing

look no matter what you add to EE3 nobody will like it as much at all as EE2 I mean im sure its going to be kinda fun but me and a ton of other poeple won't like it as much without red matter and the catalysts

Wow. Write your own version of EE2. Have fun with that hard work and then you won't come at people with that attitude. Give the mod a chance this is a prerelease and if you would just do some hard research you can see that the plans that are already set for this are incredible. It really captures the essence of what this mod is about. These few things that are present in the current release are just because he felt like being nice and letting us all test out the mod. Have fun with some old items we love and remember. The items being taken out caused EE2 and its creator a handful of headaches on it's forum and countless others. Some people really loved them and even came up with ways to make them not so overpowered. But what most of you who complain aren't able to understand is you don't have to live without those items. This mod is open source...which means anyone can make an addon for it like they do for Buildcraft and IndustrialCraft all the time. This allows even you to either make an addon adding the exact same items and/or more that you want legally and easily. If you cannot code I am sure there are many authors who would be willing to do it for or not for profit. This is the internet and there are an endless amount of people at your disposal. Though if you wait long enough, probably some time after the complete version of this mod is released and it is no longer in a PreRelease stage, someone will make one that adds the old controversial items and make it available on the forums. EE3 is going to be an amazing addition to our minecraft folders....I beg of everyone to quit being so rude as to complain about a mod that is not even near completion and only even available due to kindness.

Quote from Partonetrain

Pahimer! I have an Idea! You don't have to use it if you don't want to though you are in charge of this mod

Since EE3 was supposed to be more balanced how about you make a not-so-equivalent transmutation tables (like, for example, you lose a little EMC each time you transmutate, probably a percent of the item) that is semi-cheap to craft. As you upgrade it, it loses less EMC each time you transmutate and each upgrade is more expensive. You eventually upgrade over and over to the point where the table that transmutates equivalently.

<Idea end>

Has been suggested, and to my knowledge, is already being added. The only part that (probably) isn't going to be added is one that transmutes COMPLETELY equivalently. Simply for balance sake, you know.

Do you have any idea how long until EMC is readded? D: I hate not been able to just create stuff i actually need to go mining haha also I suggest watching fullmetal alchemist maybe you could get some ideas off the show about equivalent exchange

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I suggest watching fullmetal alchemist maybe you could get some ideas off the show about equivalent exchange
This is not a FullMetal Alchemist mod nor is this EE2. This is EE3 and is Pahimar's own work and not a copy off some cheap toon.

it was just a suggestion considering it is a show about alchemy and this is an EQUIVALENT EXCHANGE mod... and it's not "some cheap toon" I'd like to see you go make a series and see how easy it is so don't bag others considering how successful the series actually is

My only real worry is that the pendulum has swung completely opposite. i mean that when EE3 comes out there will be such a fear of over powering that it will in fact become over priced. Or take second tier status to Thaumcraft. I factually detest thaumcraft. One thing I loved about EE is that it's not so involved that it replaces playing with endless hours of tooling up, building gadgetry then weeks later beginning to play. Thaumcraft is excessively gadget filled and the other "magic" mods seem to be following suit. Ars Magica has followed the Thaumcraft rout and I hate to see EE3 be as gadget filled or require long treks to find items.

It's fine if one believes that traveling the world and searching chests is what MC is about... Or building gadgets daily is all good. I don't play that way and many others do not. I'm glad that Pahimar is thinking of balance and fair play. This is a good thing. I just have a feeling that gadgets and endless toil sit in the future of EE3 and it's bothersome.

Quote from Partonetrain

Pahimer! I have an Idea! You don't have to use it if you don't want to though you are in charge of this mod

Since EE3 was supposed to be more balanced how about you make a not-so-equivalent transmutation tables (like, for example, you lose a little EMC each time you transmutate, probably a percent of the item) that is semi-cheap to craft. As you upgrade it, it loses less EMC each time you transmutate and each upgrade is more expensive. You eventually upgrade over and over to the point where the table that transmutates equivalently.

<Idea end>

Go check on Github if it's already been suggested on there-pahimar checks it almost every day. https://github.com/pahimar/Equivalent-Exchange-3#contributing

Quote from TheXylis

Do you have any idea how long until EMC is readded? D: I hate not been able to just create stuff i actually need to go mining haha also I suggest watching fullmetal alchemist maybe you could get some ideas off the show about equivalent exchange

I'm going to guess at least pre3, since I haven't seen him add anything EMC-related yet, but he does have plans for it.

Just an idea I had floating around in my head.

Quote from MagicMumbo

1, "it was just a suggestion considering it is a show about alchemy and this is an EQUIVALENT EXCHANGE mod" indeed this is the EE mod and has NOTHING to do with FMA... NOTHING!!

2, "and it's not "some cheap toon" I'd like to see you go make a series and see how easy it is so don't bag others considering how successful the series actually is" Firstly, In my opinion it is a cheap toon and nothing will sway my view on this to take you rage elsewhere. Its my opinion and I am entitled to have my own opinion on it. Secondly, I have no interest in making cheap toons for kids and its success means nothing to me because I don't nor will I ever watch it.

Just remember in the modern world everyone is entitled to have and share their own opinions. It doesn't make me right or wrong. It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to that aren't I?

... FMA is all about EE how does it have nothing to do with it?
I know it's just your opinion, and my suggestion was just an opinion and yet you had a go at me for it? So tell me how I was the one that is having a "rage" honestly I think you are the younger one here considering you are saying that everyone is entitled to an opinion but my first comment was just an opinion there was no need for you to act that way and say what you did.

I have not looked through the entire thread so this might have been suggested, but here I go. What if every time you preform alchemy, you level of entropy or disorder on the player. The more entropy the player has on him the greater the severity and chance of an alchemical rebound. That way the better forms of transmutation will build up less entropy and allows you to get more content and tech levels even for transmutation tables.

IMO you have ruined your mod. This mod has went from amazing to this. There are less items in the mod. There is no way to fly. There are no condensers. No nothing. The only thing you thought was a good idea was to keep the Philophisor's stone (which is nerfed to hell) and the Alchemical bags. This mod has gone from my favoraite to a excuse of the Thaumcraft.

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IMO you have ruined your mod. This mod has went from amazing to this. There are less items in the mod. There is no way to fly. There are no condensers. No nothing. The only thing you thought was a good idea was to keep the Philophisor's stone (which is nerfed to hell) and the Alchemical bags. This mod has gone from my favoraite to a excuse of the Thaumcraft.

I second this. I enjoyed EE2 a lot because it offered plenty of great endgame items. Then that mod dies, and this comes along with nothing to offer. No offense to the creator, but this wasn't necessary.

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IMO you have ruined your mod. This mod has went from amazing to this. There are less items in the mod. There is no way to fly. There are no condensers. No nothing. The only thing you thought was a good idea was to keep the Philophisor's stone (which is nerfed to hell) and the Alchemical bags. This mod has gone from my favoraite to a excuse of the Thaumcraft.

Quote from TheRaiderGuy17

I second this. I enjoyed EE2 a lot because it offered plenty of great endgame items. Then that mod dies, and this comes along with nothing to offer. No offense to the creator, but this wasn't necessary.

It's not finished yet. It's being rebuilt from the ground up. That's why it's a prerelease.

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IMO you have ruined your mod. This mod has went from amazing to this. There are less items in the mod. There is no way to fly. There are no condensers. No nothing. The only thing you thought was a good idea was to keep the Philophisor's stone (which is nerfed to hell) and the Alchemical bags. This mod has gone from my favoraite to a excuse of the Thaumcraft.

Please wait until the mod is actually DONE before you complain please, because there will be more items added, there will be a way to fly, the condenser was removed WITH GOOD reason, the Philosopher's Stone will get buffs, and Thaumcraft is awesome anyways.

Quote from TheRaiderGuy17

I second this. I enjoyed EE2 a lot because it offered plenty of great endgame items. Then that mod dies, and this comes along with nothing to offer. No offense to the creator, but this wasn't necessary.

That comment wasn't necessary, as obviously you have done no research WHATSOEVER before you spat hate.

I'm usually good tempered, but this crap is seriously starting to get on my nerves, and I've been polite to the last one hundred who asked the same questions. Notice I only have 112 posts.

You

Quote from MagicMumbo

TheXylis Get this into your brain. This mod has NOTHING to do with FMA. The only thing they have in common is the name 'Equivalent Exchange' and nothing more. Because I ride a motorbike does that mean It's a bicycle? NO! They may share similar features but they are not the same. This is not a Full Metal Alchemist Mod. Try and get that into your (obviously) tiny brain.
I will no longer respond to you or your idiotic ideas. Good day Sir...

I never said it had anything to do with FMA I quote "I suggest watching fullmetal alchemist maybe you could get some ideas off the show about equivalent exchange" It was all a suggestion I never said it had anything to do with the show, all this was, was an opinion you know I was right so now you switch to childish insults and try to stop yourself from sounding even more idiotic, you sir just got owned

Quote from TheRaiderGuy17

I second this. I enjoyed EE2 a lot because it offered plenty of great endgame items. Then that mod dies, and this comes along with nothing to offer. No offense to the creator, but this wasn't necessary.

So, you like play with Overpowered items and creative mode?

Quote from Sodisna

Just an idea I had floating around in my head.

nice idea!