Ever heard of an emulator for current-gen games that work? Me neither.
The only reason 2013 PCs can emulate games from, say, the PS2 is that current technology is immensely more powerful than the ones we had in 2000. Even so, many modern emulators will still have problems with some of the more advanced PS2 games, such as Shadow of the Colossus. This is the same reason that certain consoles are capable of playing a selection of games from the previous generation. Either the console didn't change enough in architecture from its previous generation, or the game being played is not so demanding that emulation is impossible.
Emulation isn't simply making a program and bam, software from other machines work. It requires similarity of hardware and significant technological advances. Hardware is also notoriously... painful to emulate properly. There's a reason that even N64 Emulators aren't perfect right now.
Actually there are emulators for the Wii and the Xbox(original) of course not for the 360/ps3 yet but eventually there will be.
The PS3 is backwards compatible with most games(the one I have the original fat one) the only reason support was dropped was because they do not want to waste time(money) to keep developing it. It is however very possible. It is actually as simple as writing a program that simulates the engine the games ran on and having hardware strong enough to simulate that engine as well as the current.
Also I am not sure what 64 emulator you use but the newest version of Project64 runs every game I have wanted to play flawlessly(including actually enhancing graphics on games like OoT with the community graphic project).
No backwards compatibility? Kinect 2 has to be plugged in? Microsoft is shooting itself in the foot.
Same with PS4, PowerPC to x86 is a big jump. Also how do we know we can't disable the camera and microphone.
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Actually there are emulators for the Wii and the Xbox(original) of course not for the 360/ps3 yet but eventually there will be.
We don't have it for the 360/PS3 because technology hasn't advanced enough yet... which is precisely what I said. What's your point?
The PS3 is backwards compatible with most games(the one I have the original fat one) the only reason support was dropped was because they do not want to waste time(money) to keep developing it.
Only because the PS3 literally had an almost-full PS2 inside it.
It is however very possible. It is actually as simple as writing a program that simulates the engine the games ran on and having hardware strong enough to simulate that engine as well as the current.
I think you underestimate the complexity of 'programs'. "Writing a program that simulates the engine" is hard as balls. You'll have to make the entire (hardware intensive) engine work on a completely different hardware. Which is possible, but takes many, many years, and a lot of effort. See what I said about how we still don't have 100% perfect N64 emulators.
Also I am not sure what 64 emulator you use but the newest version of Project64 runs every game I have wanted to play flawlessly(including actually enhancing graphics on games like OoT with the community graphic project).
Highly dependent on how each game uses the hardware. Similar to how the 360 will run some Xbox games well, some with flaws, and some not at all.
This is gonna totally tank because people have to buy all their games over again, making getting the newest version of the Xbox pointless now that you have to pay for the same games all over again.
This is gonna totally tank because people have to buy all their games over again, making getting the newest version of the Xbox pointless now that you have to pay for the same games all over again.
Yes, lets ignore that PS4 also has no backwards compatibility. Also most of the bad rumors are that, rumors.
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“These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise, it's continuing mission to explore a strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before.”-Gene Roddenberry
This is gonna totally tank because people have to buy all their games over again, making getting the newest version of the Xbox pointless now that you have to pay for the same games all over again.
Nah, because people won't stick to their word. No matter how much people whine and complain about something like this, they'll still buy it. Just like how everyone supposedly hates EA, yet they still buy all of their games.
Nah, because people won't stick to their word. No matter how much people whine and complain about something like this, they'll still buy it. Just like how everyone supposedly hates EA, yet they still buy all of their games.
Yes, lets ignore that PS4 also has no backwards compatibility. Also most of the bad rumors are that, rumors.
Its not a rumor..
“Xbox One hardware is not compatible with Xbox 360 games,” ... “We designed Xbox One to play an entirely new generation of games—games that are architected to take full advantage of state-of-the-art processors and the infinite power of the cloud. We care very much about the investment people have made in Xbox 360 and will continue to support it with a pipeline of new games and new apps well into the future.”
“Xbox One hardware is not compatible with Xbox 360 games,” ... “We designed Xbox One to play an entirely new generation of games—games that are architected to take full advantage of state-of-the-art processors and the infinite power of the cloud. We care very much about the investment people have made in Xbox 360 and will continue to support it with a pipeline of new games and new apps well into the future.”
I meant with the others rumors. Also PS4 and Xbox One don't have backwards compatibility since they went from PowerPC to x86.
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“These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise, it's continuing mission to explore a strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before.”-Gene Roddenberry
This is gonna totally tank because people have to buy all their games over again, making getting the newest version of the Xbox pointless now that you have to pay for the same games all over again.
This is gonna tank? I'm quite certain all three consoles of this generations will be financially successful. There's a market for all three of them and no matter what we or similar communities may want, both the Xbox One, the PS4 and the Wii U will be very much in the green, commercially.
Honestly, "They're going to tank because people need to buy the games again" is a seriously narrow view of it. When you look at how few consoles actually had reverse compatibility, you'll see how its lack doesn't guarantee a failure. Especially people will be more interested in the new games regardless. Your argument makes it like the new console will only have old games, which isn't true.
I just watch for the day until people realise PC will be superior in every way. Something that copies can never get ahead
Forgive me for not joining your Glorious PC Gaming Master Race. ^^
I see the TV achievments as meh. Now all my friends will just be able to see how much Doctor Who I watch. Too much is still left open for rumor though.
But unless the Xbox One has some way for backwards compatibility, and/ or some cool stuff besides better graphics and/ or a helluva lot of launch titles I don't think I'll be getting it day Xbox One (See what I did there?)
And until I can get a good PC gaming set up for the same price as a console I think I'll hold off on joining your PC gaming master race as well.
PC is cheaper in the long run, and also if the console will be expensive just like it was on the 360/ps3 release then you will get a PC for the same price.
Also, it is a master race as: Adjective A race Having or showing very great skill or proficiency.
PC:Internet same time as game, can watch TV(Netflix, Sky TV).
Well no. My $500 laptop barely runs Worms Revolution and in all likely that's about how expensive a new console is going to be on day Xbox One. And thank you for showing why I dislike the general PC gamer "we're better than you are, you filthy console peasants" mindset that leads me to dislike you lot. Like seriously... no.
The Xbox will have same graphics as the PS4 as they will be console-platform games. They have to run the same, except the better console will get at most 10 FPS more
... I never said the Xbox's graphics would be better than the PS4s. Perhaps I didn't make it clear that slightly prettier graphics weren't actually that important to me.... Especially since they all look essentially, the same.
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... I never said the Xbox's graphics would be better than the PS4s. Perhaps I didn't make it clear that slightly prettier graphics weren't actually that important to me.... Especially since they all look essentially, the same.
That's the flaw with our 'master race'. Gigantic elitism.
But I'm definitely going to have to upgrade my computer after this, my computer isn't that great, it's a few generations behind. And it's going to be expensive.
PC is cheaper in the long run, and also if the console will be expensive just like it was on the 360/ps3 release then you will get a PC for the same price.
Also, it is a master race as: Adjective A race Having or showing very great skill or proficiency.
PC:Internet same time as game, can watch TV(Netflix, Sky TV).
The Xbox will have same graphics as the PS4 as they will be console-platform games. They have to run the same, except the better console will get at most 10 FPS more
You're not helping your case. At all.
If I had no idea of PC gaming's community and I saw that, I'd probably never buy a PC game ever.
Actually there are emulators for the Wii and the Xbox(original) of course not for the 360/ps3 yet but eventually there will be.
The PS3 is backwards compatible with most games(the one I have the original fat one) the only reason support was dropped was because they do not want to waste time(money) to keep developing it. It is however very possible. It is actually as simple as writing a program that simulates the engine the games ran on and having hardware strong enough to simulate that engine as well as the current.
Also I am not sure what 64 emulator you use but the newest version of Project64 runs every game I have wanted to play flawlessly(including actually enhancing graphics on games like OoT with the community graphic project).
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Same with PS4, PowerPC to x86 is a big jump. Also how do we know we can't disable the camera and microphone.
http://www.gamespot.com/twitter-battle/xbox-vs-ps4/
We don't have it for the 360/PS3 because technology hasn't advanced enough yet... which is precisely what I said. What's your point?
Only because the PS3 literally had an almost-full PS2 inside it.
I think you underestimate the complexity of 'programs'. "Writing a program that simulates the engine" is hard as balls. You'll have to make the entire (hardware intensive) engine work on a completely different hardware. Which is possible, but takes many, many years, and a lot of effort. See what I said about how we still don't have 100% perfect N64 emulators.
Highly dependent on how each game uses the hardware. Similar to how the 360 will run some Xbox games well, some with flaws, and some not at all.
This is gonna totally tank because people have to buy all their games over again, making getting the newest version of the Xbox pointless now that you have to pay for the same games all over again.
Yes, lets ignore that PS4 also has no backwards compatibility. Also most of the bad rumors are that, rumors.
Nah, because people won't stick to their word. No matter how much people whine and complain about something like this, they'll still buy it. Just like how everyone supposedly hates EA, yet they still buy all of their games.
Its not a rumor..
“Xbox One hardware is not compatible with Xbox 360 games,” ... “We designed Xbox One to play an entirely new generation of games—games that are architected to take full advantage of state-of-the-art processors and the infinite power of the cloud. We care very much about the investment people have made in Xbox 360 and will continue to support it with a pipeline of new games and new apps well into the future.”
I meant with the others rumors. Also PS4 and Xbox One don't have backwards compatibility since they went from PowerPC to x86.
I weep for our species.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/microsoft-files-patent-for-television-achievements-6408924
I hope they'll give us difficult ones. Ones that take some serious willpower to get through.
Like forty thousands points for watching ten hours of TLC.
Damn site ruined my joke!
Honestly, "They're going to tank because people need to buy the games again" is a seriously narrow view of it. When you look at how few consoles actually had reverse compatibility, you'll see how its lack doesn't guarantee a failure. Especially people will be more interested in the new games regardless. Your argument makes it like the new console will only have old games, which isn't true.
Forgive me for not joining your Glorious PC Gaming Master Race. ^^
I see the TV achievments as meh. Now all my friends will just be able to see how much Doctor Who I watch. Too much is still left open for rumor though.
But unless the Xbox One has some way for backwards compatibility, and/ or some cool stuff besides better graphics and/ or a helluva lot of launch titles I don't think I'll be getting it day Xbox One (See what I did there?)
And until I can get a good PC gaming set up for the same price as a console I think I'll hold off on joining your PC gaming master race as well.
Well no. My $500 laptop barely runs Worms Revolution and in all likely that's about how expensive a new console is going to be on day Xbox One.
And thank you for showing why I dislike the general PC gamer "we're better than you are, you filthy console peasants" mindset that leads me to dislike you lot. Like seriously... no.
... I never said the Xbox's graphics would be better than the PS4s. Perhaps I didn't make it clear that slightly prettier graphics weren't actually that important to me.... Especially since they all look essentially, the same.
That's the flaw with our 'master race'. Gigantic elitism.
But I'm definitely going to have to upgrade my computer after this, my computer isn't that great, it's a few generations behind. And it's going to be expensive.
You're not helping your case. At all.
If I had no idea of PC gaming's community and I saw that, I'd probably never buy a PC game ever.