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Yeah, where's Serbia

I had a small little circle under Austria included in the updated map. I thought that would be enough to suffice. I mean, if Switzerland can live as a small dot, why can't Serbia?

And I'm not exactly sure that Albania is Serbia itself. Before WWI, Serbia and Albania existed separately, and after IRL WWI, Serbia was a part of Yugoslavia. I thought that in my updated map, since things went differently in IC WWI, Yugoslavia and Serbia could both exist. Now, I know that Serbia is in a different place geographically. But hey, The location of the Republic of China radically changed after WWII, did it not? Why could the same not be true for Serbia?

Because, the Serbians would never live in Albania, trust me. Who caused WWI anyway? A Serbian nationalist.

And... In the RP map, Serbia takes up much, MUCH more space, and Austria's territory goes further South, taking everything North of Serbia. :x

That, and Serbia and Austria have been integrated, in their current states, as canon by being part of the GEU. So... They can't really change at this point.

Also, why would people who wanted to be independent from Austria-Hungary join up together...?

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Because, the Serbians would never live in Albania, trust me. Who caused WWI anyway? A Serbian nationalist.

Any visiting any number of Balkan-based videos on YouTube leads me to believe they all hate each other's guts. ;P

But that may be from the war that went down and Kosovo and all that yummy stuff.

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Also, why would people who wanted to be independent from Austria-Hungary join up together...?

You could argue that because (at least I think this is true) Austria-Hungary would have a certain Germanic culture they'd want to get away, and then band up together to give themselves a better odd at fending off the non-serbs. I dunno.

Yes, everyone in the Balkans hate each other, pretty much.

The Balkan Union's attack on Batista is definitely going to make things interesting for Spain.

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The Balkan Union's attack on Batista is definitely going to make things interesting for Spain.

It'll be like Ethiopia turning around and attacking China. It's just like "wtf?" "Aren't they on the same side?"

Hm...in a way, I can kind of see what you mean by them being the same. But really, however, Batista (according to the wiki) runs an autocratic government, whereas the Balkan League is a Democratic-Communist State. Now, I'm not exactly sure if Batista runs a full-blown commie government, but should that really stop them from attacking? I mean, we've seen democratic nation wage war on democratic nation IRL before, though honestly I haven't heard of a communist nation vs a communist nation before.

And as for issues with why one Baltic nation would ally itself with another: I say they might very well do so in this alternate timeline. Sure, it was one Balkan nation that started WWI, but it was a German that started WWII, yet most people are fine with the Germans nowadays. Why? 'Cause that was about seventy years ago, from a man who's for a long time been dead. Same thing could apply to the Balkan nations. And besides, we have America under socialism in this RP; who's to say something as crazy as Balkan nations being a bit less hostile towards each other is impossible?

Well, I could bet your ass Serbia wouldn't be under control of Albania for too long.

There's no reason for Sebia to leave the GEU. It's not a massive super-state, it's the EU for this RP. If anything, the rest of the Balkan League should join the GEU, since Serbia is in it. It just means free trade, and more friends if they're attacked. I'm only stating that Serbia is it's realistic size in the RP, and it's already canon that it is, so it's not suddenly gonna give away all it's land, and certainly won't join with the people that try to take it. I'm fine with Serbia becoming part of your super-state. You just can't decrease it to an extremely minuscule amount of land, from the larger amount it has now.

Also, about Austria. The territories were still canon during the FRP, and were canon when the GEU was founded, so they should still be. THough you could probably buy them from Austria easily. o 3 o

Current canon borders for both Austria and Serbia.
http://mapfrappe.com/?show=5000

Also fixed my GEU map, since the last one was done at 2 am. :I
http://mapfrappe.com/?show=5001

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I haven't heard of a communist nation vs a communist nation before.

In real life: The Chinese-Vietnamese border war. And I think there was a short spout between Vietnam and the idiot Khmer Rouge in the late seventies. China and the USSR also quarreled a little bit over ideology which ultimately ended with China giving Russia the finger and trading with America, thereby leaving the USSR in the dust forever.

In the RP, the spat between the Russian Republic (which claims to be like your style of government) and China-backed Eastern Russia was something of that war.

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I missed the IC post stating the Balkan League is a nation, sorry.

If Serbia was ever used in canon then it should stay the way it was.

Although it was only played for such a short time that it hasn't become canon: Wehr-controlled Austria put down the fact that Serbia was very basically armed (they hadn't developed Radar) and were pretty weak.

Speaking of me, I'm back. So yeah.

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Say, uh--Wehrmacht, was it? I think one of the first things I could do is help in the overthrowing of Batista. However, my exact knowledge on just what exact details go to it is small, so some explaination would be helpful. Same thing for Feokris and his upcoming Swiss War.

Yo.

Well, basically what happened was the expansionist Spanish incorporated Italy into their Iberian League and placed Batista on the throne (or whatever he is) as a puppet. He wasn't a very good one, and IIRC he basically blackmailed Spain into letting him out.

Being a pretty **** ruler had its drawbacks, namely the fact that it encouraged revolutions like my nutty right-wing ultranationalist one. I'm a group of neo-Romans that want to overthrow Il Generalissimo and incorporate a third Roman Republic. The Spanish recently parachuted in and saved one of my "Senators" from torture, and so the uprising started posthaste. We currently control Alessandria and most of Genoa (although we're still fighting in Genoa) and are making moves towards Rome and Turin. Ultimately we're planning on attacking Milan, and I've got a man on the inside that I may or may not have kill Batista at some point.

Will they be like real ultra nationalists, and Romans and call the Mediterranean sea, "Mare Nostrum"?

Sweet, that means Total War: Rome 2

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Will they be like real ultra nationalists, and Romans and call the Mediterranean sea, "Mare Nostrum"?

Probably.

I guess doctors would be the map makers?

And will these doctors also double as barbers and in some cases dentists?

Oh wait, wrong era...

Roman dentist drill...

oh shi-.