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[ocomobock]

EDIT: This was originally made as a mod suggestion sort of thing. I decided to move it to the actual Minecraft suggestions section, so I'd like feedback on whether or not this would actually be good in Minecraft or not. This is also extremely W.I.P.

I never quite felt like The End was a good way to just say you beat the game. It's not exciting. There's this dragon flying around that takes a while to actually try and attack you, and when it tries to attack you all you have to do is shoot it or swing your sword at it and it will fly again.

Now, onto the actual suggestion. Here's the entire idea in a nutshell before you read all of the details. After killing the enderdragon, a little crate is spawned in the air that contains a key. This key is used to unlock the entrance to a new dimension. The thing you have to unlock spawns underground very rarely. It's a container sort of thing, and right clicking on it creates a light blue pad thing that glows. Stepping on it will teleport you to the next dimension.

This dimension is basically the old world, but way harder. But now that you've got all your diamond stuff from the last world (at least i hope), you should be able to defend yourself. It's basically like your first night all over again.

This whole process continues, but with different bosses for each dimension. There are five dimensions in total. Each time it gets harder, but there are new ores and other things in each world.

Here's what I wrote on notepad (sorry about all the spoilers ):

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Dimension 2:

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<New mobs>

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<Hostile mobs>

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Red Skeleton

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Health: 80

Drops: Red Bone

Item uses: Red Bones can be thrown, and induce the same effect on mobs as when they're thrown at you. More uses will come later.

The red skeleton spawns in groups of 1-3 in dark areas and spawns just as commonly as normal skeletons, but it has some new features. And, of course, it is red instead of gray. Touching it deals 5 damage to you if you have no armor on easy mode, and puts "Red Bones Curse" on you for 30 seconds. This deals 0.5 damage to you every 5 seconds, with the "Hunger" curse in effect too. Getting hit by it on normal does 7 damage, and 9 on hard.

It throws Red Bones at you, inducing the same curse for 30 seconds. Getting hit by the bone also does 3 damage directly on easy mode with no armor. 5 damage on normal, and 7 damage on hard. But if you've got diamond stuff from the old dimension, you should be fine. And there's always new ores too.

In the spirit of The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, attacking this skeleton with a close-range item will make it jump backwards, making it almost always dodge your sword. Backing it up against a wall will let you kill it, but if you have no bow and you're in the middle of a field, you're basically out of luck.

Blocking the skeleton's thrown bones by right clicking with your sword will block the bone, and prevent you from getting cursed.

Defective Zombie

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Health: 80

Drops: Ragged Leather 1-3, Infected Flesh

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Item uses: 4 Ragged Leather can be crafted into one Strong Leather if you put Ragged Leather into all the slots in a 2x2 crafting grid. Then you can create Strong Leather Armor, which is like Leather Armor in the first dimension. Infected Flesh can be crafted into Infected Arrows by putting one arrow and one Venom into a crafting grid. It will deal 4 damage when shot at a mob and make them defective and attack any mob around them. This is actually fairly useful for mob traps, because instead of just slowly killing mobs, it will start a huge riot.

The defective zombie appears in groups of 1-15, and has a slightly crazed look. It wears leather armor, but it seems worn out and practically useless. It can also spawn mixed in with a group of normal zombies. It normally doesn't spawn in a group of 15, but if it does and you happen to be near it, you're basically screwed. Very rarely, it will get confused and randomly start attacking other mobs besides other defective zombies and normal zombies, which gives you a slight advantage.

If it's chasing something and the thing it's chasing is behind a wall, it will attempt to break the blocks in front of it to get to it very slowly one by one. It can break the following blocks:

Grass
Dirt
Sand
Gravel
Smoothstone
Cobblestone
Netherrack
Glowstone
Soulsand
Wooden plank
Log
Leaf
Cobweb

It will probably be able to break some more blocks that I forgot. Getting hit by it will deal 4 hearts on easy, 6 on normal, and 7 on hard without armor. If they get caught in the sunlight, they will run around in the same manner that animals do when attacked looking for a dimly lit place to hide.

They are nearly as fast as you when you aren't sprinting, and they take less knockback than normal zombies.

White Spider

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Health: 60

Drops: Firm String 1-2, Venom 1-2

Item uses: Firm String can be crafted into a Strong Bow. The Strong Bow shoots a bit more accurately and has more durability then a normal bow. Venom is craftable into Venomous Water by putting a water bucket in the middle of a 3x3 crafting grid and putting Venom in all the other slots. This water will put the Venom effect on whatever touches it. Venom can also be crafted into a venomous slimeball by putting Venom and a Slimeball in a crafting grid, which is a lighter green slimeball. This can be placed on the floor, wall, or ceiling. It acts as a ladder, and touching it will put the Venom effect on whatever touches it. You can also craft a Venomous arrow by putting a normal arrow and Venom in a crafting grid. This does the same amount of damage as a normal arrow but it also puts the Venom effect on whatever it touches.

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Venom

White spiders spawn in groups of 1-4, only in dimly lit areas. They will shoot venom at you about every 10 seconds if you are near them, which deals 2 hearts when it hits you on easy, 3 on normal, and 4 on hard. It also adds the "Venom" effect for 15 seconds. The venom effect makes you 2x more sensitive to anything that hurts you, and deals 1 heart every 5 seconds.

If there is something at least 16 blocks above the spiders, they will start floating upwards on a piece of string. (yes, i know that isn't realistic but i see no other way to do that.)

Toxic Creeper

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Health: 80
Drops: Deadly Toxin, 1-2
Item uses: Deadly Toxin can be crafted into Toxic TNT, which creates the same effect when it explodes as when the toxic creeper explodes.

Toxic creepers spawn in groups of 1-2, and when they explode, they leave an explosion a bit bigger from normal creeper explosions. Not only that, but about 2 seconds after they explode, they leave little green particles flying around from where they blew up that stay there for around 20 seconds. Standing in the particles gives you the poison effect. Crafting and wearing a gas mask will prevent you from getting poisoned.

Knight

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Health: 120

Drops: Nothing

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Knights guard Castles 24/7, and if it sees you, it will attempt to kill you. The only way it can see you though, is if it catches you with a Spotlight (explained later). Not only one guard will go after you though. At least five of them will, and they all deal 8 hearts on easy mode, 10 on normal, and 12 on hard. If you have good armor, it won't be too hard.

Knight with key

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Health: 160

Drops: Key

Item uses: Unlocking the locked door.

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Only one of these knights will spawn in the entire castle. It has a key in one hand, and a sword in the other. This knight is well supplied just in case it gets attacked, so it's harder to kill. It will fight back if you attack it.

Yellow Slime

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Health: Big: 64, Small: 16, Tiny: 4

Drops: Yellow Slimeball

Item uses: Can be thrown at mobs to slow them down, and can also be crafted into a Venomous Yellow Slimeball. Those can be thrown at mobs, but it also puts the Venom effect on them for 15 seconds. Throwing these at the ground will put yellow dots on the block you threw it at.

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<Passive mobs>

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Buffalo

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Health: 40

Drops: Buffalo Horn, Raw Buffalo Steak

Item uses: The Buffalo Horn can be crafted into a Strong Arrow. Raw Buffalo Steak can be cooked in a furnace to get Cooked Buffalo Steak.

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The buffalo is a replacement of the cow. It spawns in groups of 3-8. It's also quite a bit bigger than the cow. If you attack it, it will run in the opposite direction of you instead of just running around in circles. If another buffalo spots a buffalo running away (can spot another buffalo up to 32 blocks away), it will run in the same direction as it. It has the same spawning conditions as the cow too.

You can rarely find a Buffalo Field biome, which has tons of buffalos in it. It has a lot of tall grass too. As I said though, they can spawn in other places.

Many more mobs will be added to this list.

<New Ores>

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Note: Coal is in all of the dimensions.



Citrine Ore

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Citrine is just as common as iron is in the first dimension, and can only be mined with a diamond pickaxe or better. Smelting Citrine Ore in a furnace will give you Citrine Ingots. All citrine tools have 2144 uses, and it breaks stuff a bit faster than diamond tools.

Unique features: You can craft Citrine Ingots into a Citrine Block the same way you do with diamond/iron/etc. This block is 75% transparent though, and just looks plain fancy. It's kind of like stained glass. Citrine Ingots can also be crafted into Citrine Armor. More features will come later.

Cobalt Ore

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Cobalt is just as common as gold is in the first dimension, and can only be mined with a Citrine pickaxe or better. Smelting Cobalt Ore in a furnace will give you Cobalt Ingots. All cobalt tools have 2644 uses, and it breaks stuff quite a bit faster than Citrine tools.

Unique features: You can craft Cobalt Ingots into a Cobalt Block. This looks basically the same as a lapis block, but with less saturation and a little lighter. Putting Cobalt Ingots into the same formation as shears in a crafting grid and then putting redstone one diagonally up at the end will create a Redstone Rod. Cobalt Ingots can also be crafted into Cobalt Armor. More features will possibly come later.

Cuprite

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Cuprite is just as common as redstone in the first dimension, and can only be mined with a Cobalt pickaxe or better. Ruby Ore drops a Ruby Chunk, which can directly be crafted into Ruby Armor and tools. All Ruby tools have 3244 uses, and it breaks stuff quite a bit faster than Cobalt tools.

Unique features: None yet.

Jadeite

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Jadeite is just as common as lapis lazuli in the first dimension, and can only be mined with a Citrine pickaxe or better. Jadeite cannot be crafted into any type of tool, and acts like lapis. It drops just as much as lapis does, and is basically the same thing, except minus the dye. Great, an ore even more useless than lapis. I'll think of more uses later.

Kunzite Ore

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Kunzite is just as common as diamond in the first dimension, and can only be mined with a Cobalt pickaxe or better. Kunzite Ore drops Kunzite directly, which can be crafted into Kunzite Armor or any type of tool. It breaks stuff faster than Ruby tools.

Unique features: I'm actually very rushed right now, so I'll spend more time on this tomorrow. I don't actually know what else this should do yet though.

Sorry if some of the things mentioned in this aren't really explained, I'll explain them later. I've also spent a great deal of time writing thinking of these ideas and writing them, so I'd appreciate feedback.

EDIT 2: (you can just skip this entire edit if you want.) You might be thinking that if Notch were to actually read this (i know that's basically impossible), he wouldn't wanna add in all of these specific new mobs and new ores and everything that were thought of by just one person. I mean, imagine him just adding everything I mentioned. That sounds basically impossible, right? So just look at this entire thread as just a big example of what I think this whole idea might be like. If I were to just post this thread without any example whatsoever of what all these dimensions would be like, it wouldn't be very appealing.

[mjjmal]

love the idea just you need to move it to mod development or mod discussion to get moderns to see it just to let you get the full help available

[ocomobock]

mjjmal, on 01 February 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

love the idea just you need to move it to mod development or mod discussion to get moderns to see it just to let you get the full help available

Thanks I got the topic moved now.

[ocomobock]

New update:

I added the textures to the game, and made some new ones. This is what the ores would look like, and the ore blocks for the second dimension:



From left to right:

Kunzite, Cuprite, Citrine, Jadeite, Cobalt.

I was thinking to get to the next dimension, you would need to unlock this chest thingy. It can be found in caves kinda rarely. You can find them generated in the first dimension, but you need a key to unlock it. The key does not dissapear when thrown onto the ground.

But let's say you're exploring a cave, then a spider jumps out of nowhere and pushes you into the lava. What do you do now that you've lost your key? It will respawn in that little crate in The End. It's just kind of hard to get back if it gets destroyed. But if you drop your key somewhere and you don't know where you left it, that's where the Key Locator comes in handy.

You craft the Key Locator like a compass, but instead of Redstone you put the Key itself in it, and instead of Iron ingots it's diamond. After you craft it, you get the Key back too. The Key is only used once, and it's use is to open the container. Once you use the Key on the container, it turns into this little light blue pad about as tall as a Redstone Repeater. Once you step on it, you spawn in day time in the new world a block in front of the portal. Once you go back you will appear one block in front of the portal again just so you don't continually switch worlds without being able to control it.

Here's what the container might look like:





So, can anyone tell me what they think of this idea?

[bluemagic123]

I like this idea. I too was disappointed by the enderdragon, and thought of something similar, but I'm waiting for the modding api before I start making any mods.

[GuidedWings]

Very Impressive. You should put this in the suggestions area. It sounds good enough to fit into the game.

[ocomobock]

GuidedWings, on 15 February 2012 - 02:24 AM, said:

Very Impressive. You should put this in the suggestions area. It sounds good enough to fit into the game.

Thanks! I have requested for it to be moved.. again.

[ocomobock]

I've updated the thread with lots of spoilers to make things more organized, and added a new mob and edited a few other things.

[EcoMagic]

Impressive. I, for one, didn't really like the End Boss fight, for a Sandbox Game. But what your going with, Is amazing! Full support!

[Cswartz9]

But with all these amazing ores, wouldn't you eventually end up with a tool where you mine things instantly / never take damage?

[ocomobock]

Cswartz9, on 21 February 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

But with all these amazing ores, wouldn't you eventually end up with a tool where you mine things instantly / never take damage?

I forgot to explain that. I don't necessarily have this completely figured out, but either all materials for each world would just be harder, or each set of tools is only effective against the blocks in one world.

Huh. I guess that could be pretty bad. With armor/weapons and everything, all of the old mobs would basically just be useless. :/

EDIT: Yeah, this idea isn't gonna work. Fall damage wouldn't be effective at all, and I've noticed several flaws with this thread now.

EDIT 2: Maybe it could be re-coded so that instead of just taking no damage at all when you get hit by a really weak mob when you have strong armor, it just deals 0.5 hearts? I mean, for each world the amount of mobs would increase greatly, so it would still be pretty easy to die.

EDIT 3: This might be the solution. It isn't really the best, but it's the only way to keep things fair. Fall damage will just depend on what armor you're wearing. This basically does mean you wouldn't take any fall damage, but I don't actually think that's too much of a problem.

No matter what, mobs will always at least deal 0.5 hearts, even if they are really weak.

[tbh1138]

I would make the new dimension look different from the overworld. Maybe an orange sky?

[ocomobock]

tbh1138, on 22 February 2012 - 09:10 AM, said:

I would make the new dimension look different from the overworld. Maybe an orange sky?

Yeah, good idea. Then again, the sky color would have to be changed for all the other dimensions too.

[zeel]

It seems like the new materials should just add functionality, instead of making ridiculously tough gear. Old materials and mods would still be there in the new relm.

[WildCreeper]

This is one of the best ideas out there.

[ocomobock]

zeel, on 22 February 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

It seems like the new materials should just add functionality, instead of making ridiculously tough gear. Old materials and mods would still be there in the new relm.

That is actually a really good idea. I'll try and change what the tools do. It's gonna be hard thinking up tons of ideas for all the tools though.

WildCreeper, on 22 February 2012 - 10:37 PM, said:

This is one of the best ideas out there.

Thank you!

[EpicGhast]

Definitely seems like a pretty cool idea and I can see you have put a lot of work into this already.

I think you're wrong about not adding in specific information for all the dimensions and ores and such, though. Speculation and imagination = fun.

[FireHawkDelta]

I'd like to read this thread, but a forum bug with spoilers and the first reply put the second post right in front of the red skeleton when I opened the spoilers.

[ocomobock]

FireHawkDelta, on 23 February 2012 - 12:27 AM, said:

I'd like to read this thread, but a forum bug with spoilers and the first reply put the second post right in front of the red skeleton when I opened the spoilers.

That's odd. I don't really know what to tell you. If you're using Chrome, you could always try Ctrl + U to view the web page source code. You'll kinda be able to read it from there but it will look really weird.

[ocomobock]

New mob idea

Turkey

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Drops: Turkey Feather, Raw Turkey

Item uses: Raw Turkey can be cooked in a furnace to get Cooked Turkey. Eating this will restore 5 hunger. The Turkey Feather will have a use once I think of one.

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The Turkey would basically be a new version of the chicken. It has 16 health instead of 4. It can spawn in groups of 1-6. It's quite a bit bigger than the chicken.

Turkey can be found in forests, trees, or plains. It's actually kind of rare though.

On another note, I haven't really thought of any ideas for tools yet. Like zeel said, the tools should just have different features, but I'm really not sure what to do about that. I'm also not sure what to do about the weapons and armor if the mobs are gonna be way stronger. If I don't make weapons stronger, you will hardly be able to kill the mobs. If I don't make armor stronger, you'll die immediately.