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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:39 PM

Minecraft needs guns -_- If the minecraft character can make magical potions and a portal to hell he can at least make a rifle. I'm not talking about ak-47's or anything modern, something like a musket or an old gun. To shoot the gun it should require gun powder and bullets. The bullets should be lead balls like they used in the Civil War. Possibly made out of iron (because Minecraft doesn't have the material lead). This would make Minecraft a lot more interesting and fun. Also Minecraft doesn't have too many weapons. If the gun idea isn't good then at least add some more weapons.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:40 PM

View Postcreepekiller395, on 29 January 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:

Minecraft needs guns -_- If the minecraft character can make magical potions and a portal to **** he can at least make a rifle. I'm not talking about ak-47's or anything modern, something like a musket or an old gun. To shoot the gun it should require gun powder and bullets. The bullets should be lead balls like they used in the Civil War. Possibly made out of iron (because Minecraft doesn't have the material lead). This would make Minecraft a lot more interesting and fun. Also Minecraft doesn't have too many weapons. If the gun idea isn't good then at least add some more weapons.
Wouldn't it be kinda overpowered? And a Civil War gun does not match the time setting.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:41 PM

Well there is a WWII gun mod which may fit your wants

I'm really looking for an updated modern gun mod, sdk's is outdated.

View Postmorshu9001, on 29 January 2012 - 11:40 PM, said:

Wouldn't it be kinda overpowered? And a Civil War gun does not match the time setting.

Doesn't fit time setting? Where in minecraft does it state a time setting. For all we know minecraft could take place in the future.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:41 PM

The thing with this or any new ranged weapon is that it will either be inferior to the bow or superior, as the bow covers too many roles already.

Also, INB4 "gunz = cod trolololol."

View Postmorshu9001, on 29 January 2012 - 11:40 PM, said:

Wouldn't it be kinda overpowered? And a Civil War gun does not match the time setting.
He didn't describe the range/accuracy/firepower, so we can't judge if it would be overpowered or not. Also, we can't actually prove Minecraft's time setting. We have jukeboxes though, which came around 1890.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:42 PM

View Postcreepekiller395, on 29 January 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:

Minecraft needs guns -_- If the minecraft character can make magical potions and a portal to hell he can at least make a rifle. I'm not talking about ak-47's or anything modern, something like a musket or an old gun. To shoot the gun it should require gun powder and bullets. The bullets should be lead balls like they used in the Civil War. Possibly made out of iron (because Minecraft doesn't have the material lead). This would make Minecraft a lot more interesting and fun. Also Minecraft doesn't have too many weapons. If the gun idea isn't good then at least add some more weapons.
Hmm. You are right about new weapons but they shouldn't be guns. Maybe a wand or something that shoots very weak fireballs that move very slowly. Made of something hard to get like a Eye of Ender or something.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:45 PM

Bad idea. In servers, it would kill players EASILY, and it would be a griefing tool to leave bulletholes in creations. It would be a mess, because shells would be everywhere, and in single player, if you shoot mobs, it will be glitchy first time around (Probably 60% Buggy). DO NOT DO THIS JEB.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:47 PM

View PostMinecraftTNTBlock, on 29 January 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

Bad idea. In servers, it would kill players EASILY, and it would be a griefing tool to leave bulletholes in creations. It would be a mess, because shells would be everywhere, and in single player, if you shoot mobs, it will be glitchy first time around (Probably 60% Buggy). DO NOT DO THIS JEB.

The OP failed to mention the damage, range, and accuracy of this weapon, so you shouldn't assume that it would be instantly overpowered and kill players easily We aren't talking about assault rifles or sniper rifles here. We are talking about a POS musket.

And he never mentioned anything about the weapon leaving holes in creations. Where did you pull that information from?
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:48 PM

Well i meant like the gun would do little damage and little range...

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:48 PM

View Postcreepekiller395, on 29 January 2012 - 11:48 PM, said:

Well i meant like the gun would do little damage and little range...
Try to create some more specific values, as it will help the community here understand whether or not it would be OP, UP, or neither. You can use the bow for reference to make things easier.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:51 PM

View Postcreepekiller395, on 29 January 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:

Minecraft needs guns -_- If the minecraft character can make magical potions and a portal to hell he can at least make a rifle. I'm not talking about ak-47's or anything modern, something like a musket or an old gun. To shoot the gun it should require gun powder and bullets. The bullets should be lead balls like they used in the Civil War. Possibly made out of iron (because Minecraft doesn't have the material lead). This would make Minecraft a lot more interesting and fun. Also Minecraft doesn't have too many weapons. If the gun idea isn't good then at least add some more weapons.

Gun suggestions are pretty much taboo.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:51 PM

View PostGodda, on 29 January 2012 - 11:41 PM, said:

Well there is a WWII gun mod which may fit your wants

I'm really looking for an updated modern gun mod, sdk's is outdated.


Doesn't fit time setting? Where in minecraft does it state a time setting. For all we know minecraft could take place in the future.
Bows, arrows, wooden boats, swords... seems medieval to me. Or even "fantasy medieval" because of the magic and dragons (which I hate).
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:52 PM

View Postmorshu9001, on 29 January 2012 - 11:51 PM, said:

Bows, arrows, wooden boats, swords... seems medieval to me. Or even "fantasy medieval" because of the magic and dragons (which I hate).

Jukeboxes and pistons say hi. :D

The game has a lot of medieval elements, although it is most likely a little bit past those times (seeing how jukeboxes came around 1890).
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:53 PM

i would say maybe 2-3 hearts damage with no armor and the range could be 40-60 block range. this gun should also be hard to craft becuase... well its a gun. it should also have some knockback, maybe 2-3 block back. and the reload time should be 2-3 seconds.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:53 PM

View Postcreepekiller395, on 29 January 2012 - 11:48 PM, said:

Well i meant like the gun would do little damage and little range...
Then why would you use it?

Here is what you have to consider when adding a new weapon:
1. Does it rival another weapon? Guns would be the same as bows but with different stats, so that doesn't work.
2. Does it fit Minecraft? Guns do not.
3. Would it be difficult to program for MP? Yes, guns would be a nightmare.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:53 PM

Maybe, but i have seen other suggestions that add less overpowered "non-medieval" weaponry/items, for example, anonthemouse NAILED it in his suggestion, but i forgot the name, he said that tech shouldn't be overpowered, but need a special means of crafting (a new bench), and cost experience to make.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:54 PM

View PostAltoid2, on 29 January 2012 - 11:52 PM, said:

Jukeboxes and pistons say hi. :D

The game has a lot of medieval elements, although it is most likely a little bit past those times (seeing how jukeboxes came around 1890).
You have to ignore the outliers. Pistons in Minecraft are not really like anything in real life, and jukeboxes are just for fun, not a real part of the game like guns would be.
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:56 PM

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:56 PM

View Postmorshu9001, on 29 January 2012 - 11:51 PM, said:

Bows, arrows, wooden boats, swords... seems medieval to me. Or even "fantasy medieval" because of the magic and dragons (which I hate).

Pistons, note blocks and juke boxes,music CD's , buttons and iron doors pressure plates clocks powered minecart rails
Hmmm?

Only reason minecraft has thes medieval things is because these things are basic tools, which will progress in advancement overtime. The guy is stuck in the middle of no where, of course he's going to start off with swords and bows and other simple things. Over time he will find iron and make guns.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 11:56 PM

View Postmorshu9001, on 29 January 2012 - 11:53 PM, said:

Then why would you use it?

Here is what you have to consider when adding a new weapon:
1. Does it rival another weapon? Guns would be the same as bows but with different stats, so that doesn't work.
I agree here.
2. Does it fit Minecraft? Guns do not.
Read through my posts above about how Minecraft isn't medieval. We have jukeboxes, which came in the 1890's. The most basic firearms came around 700 AD. All of that said, I don't actually want a gun, I am merely defending the principle.
3. Would it be difficult to program for MP? Yes, guns would be a nightmare.
Explain. If bows aren't a nightmare, how would this be?

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View Postcreepekiller395, on 29 January 2012 - 11:48 PM, said:

Well i meant like the gun would do little damage and little range...
Little range? How? So it just despawns in mid air? I guess to make it less overpowered you could lower fire rate and make the part where you reload it take some time then you wouldn't move but this still doesn't belong in minecraft.

Seriously, this game is like, No technology, no advanced stuff (excluding stuff like juke boces and stuff) and nothing that new. This game is like surviving in the wild. Would you know how to make a gun in the wild?
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