Confuzzled77, on 30 January 2012 - 05:29 AM, said:
I disagree with the absolute no-bumping rule. How then, if no one posts on our topic, do we manage to advertise? We can not bump our post, we can not create a new one..It's supposed to die and never come back? Bumping should be limited, yes, but not completely removed. I can think of no other forum that does not allow bumping at ALL.
First, I know of other "no bumping" forums.
Second, how do you advertise? Well, lets see:
1. You have signature. You're allowed one link in your sig on these forums. You can talk in other sections, other threads, and let people see you.
2. How often does something special happen on your server? Do your players build stuff? Do they want to show off what they've built, or accomplished? You can post if there's something interesting to post; you just cannot post a pointless post.
Shredifier, on 01 February 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:
Also, bumping shouldn't be allowed in mass, but if a small server with not very much hype wants to become big it needs bumps so it gets seen, can you not be honest and say that a little bumping is always going to happen, just that if it is noticed on a large scale then the infractions should take place?
There is no such thing as small scale. Even if any individual thread is not excessive, with all the large numbers of threads it will be significant in total.
pookshuman, on 02 February 2012 - 02:10 AM, said:
there is only one way to get noticed and that is to break the rules. This is how it is and I seriously doubt Curse is going to change that anytime soon. It would simply take too much manpower to respond to every report of bumps or rule breaking and they are not going to put that kind of money into it.
Furthermore, they are not going to ban the larger servers for breaking the rules anyways, they will only do that to smaller guys. This is just how the world works.
Simple: Impose one rule:
Any rule breaking will give you one warning, and then your thread will be locked.
Will immediataely eliminate the problem.
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People, you need to keep one thing in mind: If everyone wants their server to be seen once a day, then that's 10,000 or so posts a day. *
There are too many servers for every server to be seen frequently*.
You have to realize that you probably will get seen once a month to once every 6 months. That's it.
You cannot rely on the server thread for your advertisements.
Your clans have a clan section.
Your builders have a "show off your creation" section.
All your players can post normally, and have a signature link to refer people to your thread.
Good enough?
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Look at it from the point of view of a person looking at "What server will I play on?". I see a few servers constantly rebumped. I gave up trying to report them. I see tons of "automatic whitelist approval" sites, including some where the admins use whitelist approval to give an additional bump -- so everytime someone wants to play, the thread gets bumped twice.
I cannot see the less busy servers at all.
Take a look at the inactive link in my current signature. (Edit: Just in case,
http://www.minecraft...econony-server/ )It's probably one of the few good "Looking for server" threads in the now locked section. Instead of applying to a server and trying to get approved, I'm asking servers to apply for my time. If I'm going to spend 2 years on a server, I want to know that it's worth it -- so I wrote out the questions that are relavent for a real economy server. Instead of trying to spend several days per server per thousands of servers trying to find a good one, I wrote what I was looking for and asked people running servers to respond.
How do you advertise a server? Why not let people say "This is what I want", and you respond with how your server fits that? That's "Looking for server".
But that section was misused, and locked.
Is it time to lock the whole existing server section if the bumping cannot be contained?
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I think the solution is as follows:
1. No new threads in the existing server sections.
2. New section for new server threads. An absolute "No pointless bumping, no white list applications, only add to your thread when something significant happens on your server, about once every 1-6 months for most servers" rule.
3. Existing server threads can be migrated to the new section if the opening post is updated, and a final "Do not post whitelist apps here -- go to myforum.com instead" post is added.
4. And wait. As less and less is added to the old section, and more and more goes into the new, well-behaved section, then things will sort themselves out.
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