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So. There are possible ways a "zombie" apocalypse could happen. Scientific discussion only please!


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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:13 PM

Mad cow disease.
When Mad Cow gets in humans, they call it Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. Check out the symptoms:
Changes in gait (walking)
Hallucinations
Lack of coordination (for example, stumbling and falling)
Muscle twitching
Myoclonic jerks or seizures
Rapidly developing delirium or dementia
So I know what your thinking. But bro they don't hurt people. But all it takes is one of those countless bio weapons labs to make it block serotonin in the brain. Very possible. http://www.sciencema...0/1875.abstract Then they could just make it be transmittable through bites. Boom "zombies".



Second way: toxoplasmosa gondii
Half the human population has this brain parasite. http://www.technovel...asp?NewsNum=547 Oh, also, they've done studies and shown that the infected see a change in their personality and have a higher chance of going insane. Humans and rats aren't all that different; thats why they use them to test our drugs. All it takes is a more evolved version of toxoplasmosa, one that could to do us what it does to the rats. So, imagine if half the world suddenly had no instinct for self-preservation or rational thought. Even less than they do now, we mean. Of course yet again all it would take is a bio weapons lab to make a small change.



So two possible ways for a "zombie" apocalypse to happen. All it would take is a small change to this disease or this parasite. If you follow biological work you would know both changes needed are within our scientific and technological abilities. Knowing the military's that still do secret bio weapons work they had to have thought about it.


Note: For this topic a "zombie" is anyone with mindless aggression that can be transmitted.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:14 PM

I'm sure a 5.56 could fix everyone of them.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:18 PM

its possible that we may get IRL zombies via a virus that makes insanity and necrosis that can be transmitted through bites... and also there was this disease of the brain caused on by consumption of an infected brain... plus in the zombie survival guide book i have at home there are these zombies called "atomics" which are caused by radiation... so many possibilities.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:18 PM

cool, good realistic ones arent like left 4 dead zombies
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:18 PM

I wouldn't say zombies exactly, but something like a zombie. Like, in the crazies, except not a bio war weapon. Idk how to completely explain myself clearly without sounding like a zombie fanboy, which I'm not because I hate zombies.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:19 PM

View Postengie_ninja, on 30 November 2011 - 08:18 PM, said:

its possible that we may get IRL zombies via a virus that makes insanity and necrosis that can be transmitted through bites... and also there was this disease of the brain caused on by consumption of an infected brain... plus in the zombie survival guide book i have at home there are these zombies called "atomics" which are caused by radiation... so many possibilities.
Well I have heard of those first 2 but the one I bolded isn't possible radiation doesn't really cause aggression.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:21 PM

crazy person apocalypse, mabye yes.
zombie apocalypse? no.
a zombie is a dead person who has come back to life and has a hunger for brains
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:23 PM

View Postrh27un, on 30 November 2011 - 08:21 PM, said:

crazy person apocalypse, mabye yes.
zombie apocalypse? no.
a zombie is a dead person who has come back to life and has a hunger for brains
Thanks why I put zombies in quotations. For intents of this topic I mean anything that would cause mindless aggression.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:23 PM

The problem with these two types of "zombies" is that neither is reanimated from the dead, nor do either of them take away the need for circulation of blood or breathing oxygen. Both things that in my opinion are needed for a true zombie. Fake zombies already exist. Haven't you ever seen a mental patient heavily medicated? If were going by parts of behavior and looks alone , we have hospitals Full of zombies.

Zombies to be zombies, need to be un-dead, reanimated dead flesh.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:24 PM

A radical form of rabies could do so. It would cause swelling of the brain that could reduce reasoning skills and logic to absolute minimums leaving only basic motor functions and needs like survival. Eating anything that moves. The swelling would also be very painful causing anxiety and rage. But as it stands if a human or any other creature contracts rabies the swelling an chemical imbalance leads to death if not treated quickly.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:28 PM

View Postrh27un, on 30 November 2011 - 08:21 PM, said:

crazy person apocalypse, mabye yes.
zombie apocalypse? no.
a zombie is a dead person who has come back to life and has a hunger for brains

Hunger for brains is Not a needed condition for a zombie.

View Postgoanimals123, on 30 November 2011 - 08:23 PM, said:

Thanks why I put zombies in quotations. For intents of this topic I mean anything that would cause mindless aggression.

LOL haven't you ever heard of ICP? How about winning a Superbowl? Both of these causes mindless aggression in mass amounts of people at once!
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:28 PM

View PostDook The First, on 30 November 2011 - 08:23 PM, said:

The problem with these two types of "zombies" is that neither is reanimated from the dead, nor do either of them take away the need for circulation of blood or breathing oxygen. Both things that in my opinion are needed for a true zombie. Fake zombies already exist. Haven't you ever seen a mental patient heavily medicated? If were going by parts of behavior and looks alone , we have hospitals Full of zombies.

Zombies to be zombies, need to be un-dead, reanimated dead flesh.
Well for purposes of this topic I mean a things that cause people to have mindless aggression that can be transmitted. @ your above post ICP and superbowl (lol) aggression can't be spread like a virus.

View PostYetiBiter, on 30 November 2011 - 08:24 PM, said:

A radical form of rabies could do so. It would cause swelling of the brain that could reduce reasoning skills and logic to absolute minimums leaving only basic motor functions and needs like survival. Eating anything that moves. The swelling would also be very painful causing anxiety and rage. But as it stands if a human or any other creature contracts rabies the swelling an chemical imbalance leads to death if not treated quickly.
I read this somewhere. Maybe I should add it to the OP.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:35 PM

GM crops, like in Shaun of the Dead.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:40 PM

View Postengie_ninja, on 30 November 2011 - 08:18 PM, said:

its possible that we may get IRL zombies via a virus that makes insanity and necrosis that can be transmitted through bites... and also there was this disease of the brain caused on by consumption of an infected brain... plus in the zombie survival guide book i have at home there are these zombies called "atomics" which are caused by radiation... so many possibilities.
I have that book too! It's great, I also have the robot invasion one!
Well... I think it's the same one...

View Postgoanimals123, on 30 November 2011 - 08:19 PM, said:

Well I have heard of those first 2 but the one I bolded isn't possible radiation doesn't really cause aggression.
There's wax figures in the Hiroshima Peace Museum of people's melted skin. They held their hands out looking in horror at visitors to the museum. They look like frickin' zombies, I will tell you... O-O


View PostScorpini, on 30 November 2011 - 08:35 PM, said:

GM crops, like in Shaun of the Dead.
Great film... But those would've had to be some pretty fucked with crops for that, I think...

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:47 PM

View PostKatia, on 30 November 2011 - 08:40 PM, said:

Great film... But those would've had to be some pretty fucked with crops for that, I think...

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:51 PM

View PostScorpini, on 30 November 2011 - 08:47 PM, said:

Buy Dempsters. You'll see.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 10:26 PM

I think the best term would be "infected"
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 10:31 PM

Before anyone starts saying anymore "these are not zombies, zombies are reanimated," define what is "dead" first. If you define it as the loss of all vital functions, including brain waves, then the zombies in Resident Evil weren't zombies, despite the fact everyone calls them that. Hell, if we really want to get technical, zombies don't eat human flesh. What you are really calling a zombie is a Romero zombie.

Everyone also seems to call the people in Left 4 Dead zombies, but they are just an example of a virus gone wild. Today, in pop culture, "zombie" does not define the undead walking and eating people. It's now just a very general definition of cannibalism due to an infection of some type.

So, for the sake of discussion, I think it should probably just be accepted that in the terms of a real life apocalypse where we see people going crazy for some reason and eating each other, we call them zombies.

That said, cross the influenza virus with mad cow and rabies, you could very easily get a zombie virus. The fact that the CDC posted that "zombie survival plan" as a joke almost makes me think they have made just a virus.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 10:35 PM

Brain parasites, Neurotoxins, The real Rage virus, Neurogenesis, Nanobots. Even if one were to happen it would fail quickly.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 11:02 PM

After seeing some of the rage and lack of common sense displayed during Black Friday  (via internet BTW I had no desire to take part in that!) it wouldn't take much to throw ignorant people into a mindless aggressive rage.  Imagine if we did have a huge economic crash how people would act.  If people are willing to trample/mace/attack people to save a few dollars on black friday what are they going to do when they can't find basic supplies to live?

Might be abit off topic but something to think about.